Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by spidergoat, Jul 1, 2017.
Well, the answer to the OP, "What do girls want?", is: the latest smart phone...
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I go to fairly great lengths to avoid buying anything that was manufactured from such labor. I've been to China and watched the factory where they make the power supplies for our phones, for example, so I know that there's no slave labor going on there. And at the foundries where they make the IC's that go in your phone? Again, no slavery there.
So I will ask you again. Are YOU OK with slavery?
Depends on what degree. If the slaves are being too abused then no. But if there was a french maid indentured servant that was being fed and treated good, its ok.
Not a big fan of slavery in general, I view most americans as pathetic sheeple and wage slaves who are duped into obedience of the corrupt government and EU UN globalism. Second child labor in other countries makes kids miserable and just takes away from american jobs.
So you are OK with some slavery. If she's hot and gets fed.
Glad I know that about you. You're a sad excuse for a human being.
Wow so judgey. I bet you judge other cultures too who dont obey your americanist ideals.
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You do realize nobody believes you, right?
No, seriously, a few weeks ago, I made a particular point↗ about your behavior:
• Seriously, the old-time language, the focus on masculinity, the dog metaphor: I mean, really?
You didn't answer that one, but coincidentally, opened a self-centered new thread↗ that leads with a video popular in mgtow circles.
And now, here you are, pushing this bit.
Yes, we see a lot of the poseur routine around here. He's not a conservative, but an independent who happens to recite GOP talking points; we've seen a lot of that. He's not a supremacist, he's just for fairness, which is why he needs to be superior to this other group over here. It's a cheap trope: One isn't this, but, instead, is that, and is here to tell us why that is wrong and this is right. And here you are covering that in this thread:
And, now, are you ready? Here's the tricky part:
So, check it out: This community has seen these routines before. If you wish to stand separate from the wannabe incel revolution, then stop promoting its language and arguments.
Thus, some advice, and it's true I've watched someone progress through iterations of these stages. When it was MRAs, the summary was, approximately: the good news is there aren't many of them, the bad news is they're just as awful as it sounds. The problem with that summary was it could not account for the men who were smart enough to not openly identify as MRAs. When it was PUAs, the omen was the number of men who suddenly forgot thre was ever any sort of pickup culture among men. Don't get me wrong, I get why so many men forget the forgettable movie in which the female pickup artist met her match in a male pickup artist who outmaneuvered her and, finally, at long last, taught her cold heart how to love. My first encounter with the song, "The Nine Points of Roguery", included the note that the title also appeared as a chapter in a decades-old, infamous pickup-artistry manual. I remember a man a few years my senior—i.e., old enough to know—quite literally putting on a mystified air and saying he had never heard of this pickup-artistry, and, yeah, I know, we're supposed to believe that shit. Do you get it, yet? Because there is a punch line, eventually; it's just, y'know, not funny. Because after the Isla Vista atrocity, PUAs were infamous, and mgtow became the trendy expression. And somewhere around this time, the people those would criticize started noticing a constant comparison. There was always overlap in the chatter, and if you want a toxic stereotype, the masculine one-upping about who has what pill or delusion or weakness or whatever stood out undeniably in the asserted contrast between smart mgtows and stupid, deluded PUAs, and these days we have an incel problem; for a contrast point, actually, no, don't get me started about straight-identifying MSM↗.
• Anecdotally, I recently witnessed a troll job that was nearly hilarious, a Twitter user claiming to be an eighteen year-old male virgin who was upset about how people were talking about incels because not all virgins were that way. Another user actually tried a route involving patience, starting with the differece between virgins and incels, but the one ended up being the sort of troll job I never needed a Twitter account to see. And it really was to type, a string of disasters fashioned by clumsy and clueless wannabe masculine dominance. And the punch line: Cornered the identifying virgin establishes his separation: he's no incel, but merely an MRA. As performances go, it was an ill-considered public snapshot of his own psyche.
And it's a one-two: Because for all that stratification means within the range, from the outside the only real difference is how desperate these people act. No, really, when he says he is MRA, it is easy enough to believe, because an incel is a militant failed mgtow is a demonstrative failed PUA is second son of MRA. More bluntly, it's all the same principle, and functionally a question of how dangerous these men want others to think they are.
Still, let us make two things clear about sexual frustration and equality:
(1) When you go on about equality and sexual frustration and men and women, like you did, you haven't a clue what you're on about. No, really.
(2) Remember those words, sexual frustration. Watching an icon stumble and falter and fail over his own proposition of "enforced monogamy" will be the subject of much historical humor in a couple decades, because what he fell back to is just another trip around the circle, and if he was flexible enough to be a proper ouroboros, at least he could eat himself and solve half the problem one way or the other.
― Here: Jim Belushi and John Candy, undressing in a locker room, discussing sex toys.
↳ You're welcome. Admittedly we aren't thanking you or anyone else who raises the prospect of needing to discuss such moments in history.
And then there is this:
This is actually more informative than you might imagine. Follow the bouncing ball. Once upon a time, [traditionalism] disagreed with [progress], but could not admit the rational outcome of the data, and thus decided the only reason for this "progress" was because [they] said so. And every time [traditionalism] lost to rational assertions of various [progress], traditionalists have cycled through such grousing responses. Liberals, women, homosexuals, Negroes, whoever. And they've come to believe it. So now they want their due, and want what they want not for any rational reason, but because they say so.
It is quite telling to the proverbial everybody else when the removal of exclusionary devices protecting particular groups are denounced as attacks giving others advantage; that is to say, it is quite telling to observe who is afraid of equality. And in that light, it is true your entire presentation sparkles with fear.
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I judge PEOPLE who do not meet my moral standards, yes. Slaveowners, rapists and murderers are all people I judge and find wanting. Must be nice not having morals; nothing to ever get in the way of what you want.
Here comes the boatload of toxic negativity and hysterical emotional arguments...
Give me a minute.
Ok I'll do bill's first since his is easy.
Your argument is emotional hysteria and demonstrably false.
I do have morals, so you claiming I don't is a hysterical fallacy similar to a screaming child ranting at his mother.
I'll take Tiassa's emotionally slanted dogma one bit at a time, since her's is a bit tougher to process.
My thread wasn't self centered it was in the general interest of the american public. But when you want to stop flinging wild emotional accusations at me let me know. Because I can go to Facebook if I want to hear whiny hysterical arguments that have no basis in actual reality.
If my video is popular in mgtow circles, so be it, it is a video about the American school system so again your argument, that the video happens to be popular in certain circles, has no basis in terms of actual debate and it is one of the many fallacies.
An example of this fallacy would me claiming I like Mozart, and then saying Mozart is popular in Nazi circles, and then forming this fallacy as some kind of tactic of debate.
The rest of your rubbish you will have to wait patiently for, because I was having a good day and I don't wish to humor negative nancies who wish to spoil my good mood.
Ah, so you judge other cultures who dont obey your americanist ideals. Good for you.
Sounds like you got triggered.
I am triggered. It is annoying to be insulted, bullied and criticized by people who use a bunch of logical fallacies and emotionally spam their kneejerk holier-than-thou moral beliefs on some sort of heretic ritual to outrage at the non-believers.
you hate rich men and wish money never existed ?
you have been programmed to a set model of behavioural required response and can never change it ?
like a robot ?
could you list which national cultures do not judge others ?
does the anouncement of adherance to a cultural-identity define your state of judementalness ?
is bi-polar ideology soo brainwashed into half wit humans who call themselves intellectual that they are incapable of comprehending a concept of non dualism ?
many cultures it is cultural practice to cut off little girls genitals
it is also cultural practice to sell their little girls as sexual slaves
it is also cultural practice to give money as a dowry as a pocess of slavery of women in hundreds of millions of people...
HUNDREDS OF MILLIOONS OF PEOPLE !
having "intelligent debate" is as much about the intelligence of those debating as it is about the topic.
We are all programmed.
Some of it really needs to be changed.
Some, not so much so......................
comme ci, comme ça
Pretty much all do. I was poking fun at him for claiming that I "judge other cultures who dont obey your americanist ideals" - then claiming he had plenty of morals he judged others by, as well.
Personally I judge people based on my own morality.
american traitors who moved their businesses to other countries are the cause of slave labour rates for american products.
it is quite interesting to see how far americans will go to avoid calling them out on it
i suspected as much, and so in kind i was using your post to illistrate a point about peoples subjective moral bi-polarism labelled as common place human rights lol
most of africa have a dowry system &/or chopp off little girls genitals or have little girl rape ceramonys as culture
at least half of asia practice dowry systems of selling their little girls into domestic/sexual slavery.
equal rights for women is like rocket science to cave men on a cultural global comparative level.
Some are, some aren't.
Some move their businesses to get the cheapest possible labor (not slave labor, but very cheap labor) so they can undercut everyone else while mistreating local workers. These are indeed scummy people.
Some move them for other reasons - like they can't get money back into the US without losing half of it, so paying salaries in another country make more sense. Or they can't hire enough talent in the US, and immigration restrictions prevent them from hiring them and moving them to the US. Or they can't afford the tariffs to get goods from the US to other countries. Or they are serving a mostly local market. Often these people pay _higher_ than average wages in the area, both to attract the best talent and to increase standards of living. These people are not that scummy.
I've been to Africa. And where I was (Niger) such things happened sometimes. Most people would never do it, and find the practice abhorrent. Some people do. It is these _people_ who are evil, not "the culture" or something like that.
the only bi-polarism is most of the users in this thread. my moral views are more or less constant.
for instance if i posted the things you do about africa they would have probably raged at me and called me a racist or something. such is the nature of hysterical debate.
And if they didn't do that, then they would have posted drivel about paranoid delusions they have of my personality and drawing comparisons of genital mutilation.
when the simple fact is they dont know very much about my morality and are just randomly extrapolating fueled by their own righteous rage and indignant hysteria.
trigger words... ?
being bi-polar and a subject being polarised are 2 different things.
you may be speed reading.
my comment about bi-polarism was about the morality of sociological anthrapology in philisophical terms.
not a personal psyche of bi-polarism.
i do not get into diagnosing people unles they are obviousely trolling.
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