Where were you already?And if that desire brings you back to Earth, has it served a purpose?
People search for something spectacular, miraculous, amazing. That search should lead them right back to where they are--here.Where were you already?
No.My replies seem to be spontaneous. Are they not coherent, Bob.
Except religion leads people to a faith based fantasy world.People search for something spectacular, miraculous, amazing. That search should lead them right back to where they are--here.
And it is spectacular and amazing. But it is not miraculous. It's evolution and natural selection, which is an "internal" natural dialogue of testing for survival skills.People search for something spectacular, miraculous, amazing. That search should lead them right back to where they are--here.
A game of survival? One which everyone and everything loses in the end?And it is spectacular and amazing. But it is not miraculous. It's evolution and natural selection, which is an "internal" natural dialogue of testing for survival skills.
Or it gives them insight and a better appreciation for life. I personally believe that some religions have been diluted to such a point that they have lost their original purpose.Except religion leads people to a faith based fantasy world.
If you want to look at it that way, yes.A game of survival? One which everyone and everything loses in the end?
I see no difference between the two. Do you?If you want to look at it that way, yes.
Of course you can also look at it as being part of a rolling continuum of continual change.
Have we achieved immortality since leaving the caves? We have replaced nature's game with our own.Would you want humans to have been stuck as immortal cave dwellers?
Does it feel deprived?Like the immortal jellyfish? Do you think it feels privileged?
Yes I do, I strive to leave a positive legacy to my brief existence. It's the best I can do.I see no difference between the two. Do you?
I won't fault you for that. I'm not certain it will be remembered, but that doesn't really matter.Yes I do, I strive to leave a positive legacy to my brief existence. It's the best I can do.
But when you are remembered you achieve eternal life. IMO, that is the fundamental value of "legacy".I won't fault you for that. I'm not certain it will be remembered, but that doesn't really matter.
It depends on your perspective. You can look at it from a personal perspective or from a species perspective. Obviously the latter would tend to suggest living within the natural rules (biosphere) existing on earth.I see no difference between the two. Do you?
Wait, since leaving caves? Hominids have been around a lot longer than living in caves. We can make an evolutionary case that humans are a result of millions of years of evolution, and that's a lot longer than the 40 years the individual caveman lived.Have we achieved immortality since leaving the caves? We have replaced nature's game with our own.
I hope not. It does not have a brain as far as I know.Does it feel deprived?
Okay.But when you are remembered you achieve eternal life. IMO, that is the fundamental value of "legacy".
Jesus achieved eternal life when he was killed and martyred. Not because he will ever resurrect.
I've been an urbanize creature most my life. Is it still possible for us to harmonize with nature.It depends on your perspective. You can look at it from a personal perspective or from a species perspective. Obviously the latter would tend to suggest living within the natural rules (biosphere) existing on earth.
I think there is a limit to the resources available. If we don't find alternatives, our descendants will be living a spars existence.But alas, even earth will have its expiration date. We can live it up and not give a damn or we can try to assure a stable environment for our off-spring for as long as possible.
We are living longer, yes.Wait, since leaving caves? Hominids have been around a lot longer than living in caves. We can make an evolutionary case that humans are a result of millions of years of evolution, and that's a lot longer than the 40 years the individual caveman lived.
I don't know either.If we are an immortal species remains to be seen.
[/QUOTE]I hope not. It does not have a brain as far as I know.
It just knows how to regrow itself from a polyp state when it gets old. Still only a continuity, albeit personal.
IMO, yes.I've been an urbanize creature most my life. Is it still possible for us to harmonize with nature.
Interesting.I personally believe that some religions have been diluted to such a point that they have lost their original purpose.
Interesting subject. After our last posts I watched a few videos on American Indians prior to colonization. Their experience of nature was more symbiotic, though there are examples where even they caused some harm to their local environment. Yet for most nature was very giving.Individual greed robs us from our ability to live in a symbiotic relationship with nature as a species.
As an example, Christianity was intended to bring people closer to God, in my opinion, yet it does more to drive a wedge between people and God. in my opinion. What Christ suggested threatened the power of the middlemen, who, of course, wanted him dead.Interesting.