Is Life a Dialogue or a Monologue?

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  1. Bowser Life is Fatal. Valued Senior Member

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    Being that we are all conscious beings from the same source, being that Earth, Cosmos or Life, would it be reasonable to view our interactions as a monologue rather than a dialogue? Sure, we disagree, but are we not consciousness conversing with consciousness?
     
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  3. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    I'm such a selfish brain in a vat I couldn't care less.
     
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  5. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    That would be a monologue if each consciousness were a cell withing a single, all-encompassing consciousness.
    We have not seen it demonstrated that that is the case. So far, my subjective experience has been of self and not-self rather than self and more self.

    (PS I wish you'd put out that damn cigarette; it's making me salivate.)
     
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  7. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Consciousness conversing with consciousness is still a dialogue between distinct entities.

    I do not know what you are thinking unless you tell me. I cannot let you know what I'm thinking unless I tell you. That's a dialogue.
     
  8. spidergoat Venued Serial Membership Valued Senior Member

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    How can I even be sure you are conscious?
     
  9. Bowser Life is Fatal. Valued Senior Member

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    Can I suggest that awareness is the same in all, only our concepts ideas differ?

    Smoking is my thing. If I can find cheese burger and fry image, I will change the image.
     
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  11. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    You can suggest it. So can revered dead philosophers. But you can't make the rest of us experience it.


    Thank you. Smoking was my thing, and I still miss it. The cheeseburger, I can take or leave.
     
  12. Bowser Life is Fatal. Valued Senior Member

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    I'm not twisting any arms, just a random post for your consideration.

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    I've given up on the idea of quitting. The cheeseburger and fries are another favorite, so I can go with those too.
     
  13. sweetpea Valued Senior Member

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    If a god created all and is everything as some believe...Then wouldn't it be this god that is having the ''monologue''. Believing in itself and not believing in itself at the same time?
     
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  14. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    A schizophrenic god, muttering to itself as it shambles along, tripping on entrophied universes? I like it!
     
  15. Bowser Life is Fatal. Valued Senior Member

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    I think that is the idea. A God at play with itself, experiencing itself as other.
     
  16. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    Sounds like wishful thinking to me: We are God (yet acknowledging what bumbling fools we are). Doesn't make God look very appealing either.
     
  17. Bowser Life is Fatal. Valued Senior Member

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    If you are God, does anything in this world really matter? What's the consequence of an imperfect world for a perfect being? Does even death have any significance?
     
  18. Dinosaur Rational Skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    From SpiderGoat Post 5
    Either I assume that others are conscious or I am unique due to being the only conscious person. I admit to being a bit arrogant, but not that arrogant.
     
  19. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    What about the converse? If things in this world DO matter, can we be God?
    Why would God be a perfect being? If we are God and we are clearly not perfect, then God can not be perfect.
    Extinction would be significant. It would be the death of God.
     
  20. Bowser Life is Fatal. Valued Senior Member

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    In an ever-changing world, what is it that lasts forever? Your life is a passing cloud, as is mine.

    I suppose we would need look at your definition of perfection. If you could die and still exist, would that not be perfection.

    It would be the death of mankind, but not God.
     
  21. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    But why do you assume that the passing cloud doesn't "matter"?
    If I can die at all, it isn't perfection. Death tends to be ugly.
    If God "is" just our collective consciousness, how can He survive our extinction?
     
  22. akoreamerican Registered Senior Member

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    Perhaps the universe formed it's consciousness through the lifeforms it nurtures and now has a case of disassociative identity disorder with uncountable personalities
     
  23. Bowser Life is Fatal. Valued Senior Member

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    Because it is impermanent. Just like everything else in this world, they come and go. How many of your ancestors do you remember?

    Death is the natural conclusion to life.

    We would have to conclude that that aspect of ourselves is omnipresent, despite the worldly experience. In other words, God exists regardless of humanity. We are simply an expression.
     

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