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Dewayne2
09-27-07, 12:50 AM
Hi. Long time reader, first time poster.

I found this in a fitness forum.

A guy, 22, wants to have sex with a girl who's 16. I'm the dad of a 1 year old daughter. I am worried about her enough as it is, but I cant think of how much I'd worry about this if this was my daughter. I'm angry about this guy doing this, am I right to be angry? What would you do if your daughter was in this situation?

(to make things equal, you can read the 22 year old guys side on his blog, *spammed link* )

spuriousmonkey
09-27-07, 01:22 AM
What kind of sex? A bit of oral? doggy style? Anal? Or just rubbing.

Oniw17
09-27-07, 01:31 AM
I don't see why you would be angry.

spuriousmonkey
09-27-07, 02:02 AM
maybe he insists on projecting his moral values on the rest of the world.

s0meguy
09-27-07, 04:06 AM
I wouldn't even bat an eyelash if a 30 year old were to fuck a 16 year old given mutual consent.

I'm pretty sure that it's legal here too.

Deathfromabove
09-27-07, 04:33 AM
Well there's nothing you fathers can do about it. There will always be older men lusting after young girls aged 14-17. Just hope your daugthers have enough sense to not fall into these men's dirty plans.

Orleander
09-27-07, 06:21 AM
I know I wouldn't like it AT ALL! For some reason some people never see past the biological function of it. They don't look at the maturity level of it. I know in MI, its illegal. The age of consent is 16, but the other person cannot be 5 or more years older than that 16 yr old. He's 22, he's in jail.

cosmictraveler
09-27-07, 06:48 AM
If the man were to have explained the facts of life to his 16 year old daughter and raised her by being honest about life and the way people are, then he shouldn't have any problems with her. If he didn't raise her with proper guidance then I would think she maybe taken advantage of because of her naivetÚ.

Orleander
09-27-07, 06:59 AM
If the man were to have explained the facts of life to his 16 year old daughter and raised her by being honest about life and the way people are, then he shouldn't have any problems with her. If he didn't raise her with proper guidance then I would think she maybe taken advantage of because of her naivetÚ.

agreed. Most girls who date much older men are looking for a daddy. :(

spuriousmonkey
09-27-07, 07:21 AM
agreed. Most girls who date much older men are looking for a daddy. :(

Not really. Women have different biological demands from a partner then men. They already have a daddy. They are merely looking for a partner that fits within their biological desires/constraints.

Older men are better for raising children because of their experience. They have proven themselves. Women need to be as young as possible so they can give as many children as possible.

Deep biological wishes.

shorty_37
09-27-07, 07:31 AM
agreed. Most girls who date much older men are looking for a daddy. :(


Not when I was a teenager. It was just cool.
They always had a job which meant some money.
They drove a cool car.....etc

Orleander
09-27-07, 07:34 AM
Not when I was a teenager. It was just cool.
They always had a job which meant some money.
They drove a cool car.....etc

when I was in high school, those girls had crappy homes and were easy targets for those guys. That money and a car made it easier for them.

spuriousmonkey
09-27-07, 07:40 AM
Surely you are not suggesting that women are stupid.

shorty_37
09-27-07, 08:05 AM
Well I had a job at 15 after school and made good money.
I had a thing for "rocker" guys back then. It makes me laugh now.
I was a rocker chic myself, with the leather jacket and the feathered back hair lol.

shorty_37
09-27-07, 08:07 AM
I wouldn't even bat an eyelash if a 30 year old were to fuck a 16 year old given mutual consent.

I'm pretty sure that it's legal here too.

You are a pig!

I think you would bat more then an eyelash if it was your 16 yr old daughter.

lucifers angel
09-27-07, 08:10 AM
in the uk its totally legel for someone who is 22 to have sex with a girl who is just 16, why would you be angry?

and in fact girls used to have sex at a younger age because they had to make sure they had children, before they died younger!

yes granted 16 is a bit young but its legel. i know if i had a 16yr old daughter i wouldn't try adn stop her becasue she would do it anyway, but i would advice her on contraception (if i hadnt already done it sooner) what would you prefer, them doing it with you knowing and safe, or not knowing and doing it outside someplace?

mikenostic
09-27-07, 09:08 AM
Well I had a job at 15 after school and made good money.
I had a thing for "rocker" guys back then. It makes me laugh now.
I was a rocker chic myself, with the leather jacket and the feathered back hair lol.

Picturing that mentally, made me chuckle.

What kind of job did you have at 15? You can't officially/legally be employed here in the U.S. until you are 16.

shorty_37
09-27-07, 09:15 AM
My mom got me a job where she worked, the main Postal Distribution Plant.
I went there afterschool and worked from 4:00-11pm everynight. I made
13.50 and hour back then, which was damn good.

And don't forget the tight acid wash jeans lol

After that phase I turned into a full blown preppy!! lol
Cut my hair, wore penny loafers and Rauph Lauren
striped shirts and polo shirts ( I wouldn't be caught dead dressed like that now)

s0meguy
09-27-07, 09:35 AM
You are a pig! You are [censored]!


I think you would bat more then an eyelash if it was your 16 yr old daughter.

No, because I will never have one. And even if I did, I wouldn't care. It's her body.

Enmos
09-27-07, 09:38 AM
I feel some infractions coming up... ;)
It's may be understandable that you are worried or maybe even upset about it, but angry ? I don't see why you should be angry.

shorty_37
09-27-07, 09:45 AM
You are [censored]!



No, because I will never have one.

Why did you censor it now?


Thats a great idea!

peta9
09-27-07, 10:36 AM
it's not that bad. 16 and 22 year olds can be mutually attracted to eachother(especially if the teenager is physically and mentally more mature for thier age) but it is a legal issue and for good reason, you have to have some cutoff and general parameters to work with so he should be held responsible, that's the way it is. what is obscene is if like a middle-aged man were attracted to a preteen or teenager. You know that is clearly out of line, sick and most definitely not mutual.

EmptyForceOfChi
09-27-07, 10:56 AM
there is nothing wrong with this, and in the UK it is perfectly legal aswell. women of that age naturally are ready for sex, as a matter of fact females are ready to mate by natural law by the age of 12-13+.

you should not be angry at this its the girls personal choice and not for others to dictate and oppress. human law often tries to over rule natural law which is stupid. at the age of 16 humans are more than ready to start having sex and it is healthy for them to explore also.

22 is barely older than 16 anyway. there is not much difference between a 22 year old and 16 year old, especialy when the guy is 22 and the woman is 16. the woman is most likely more mature than the guy, since guys dont tend to mentaly grow up until they are atleast 30.

whats the big deal?, in most countries its not even illegal let alone immoral.





peace.

peta9
09-27-07, 11:00 AM
you think a 12-13 year old girl is ready to have sex? that's sick because the only ones who would take advantage of that are pedophiles and rapists.

EmptyForceOfChi
09-27-07, 11:08 AM
i took you off ignore because i knew that would be a reply to me, and yes according to human biology and natural body function females can bare children and are ready for sex from the age of around 12+, alot of the time even before that.

ofcourse i wouldent want my 12 year old daughter sleeping with a 30 year old guy. but speaking from a natural viewpoint of the human species in scientific content yes she would be ready for sex after her period starts.

would you say it is wrong for a female dog of the age of 2 shouldent be allowed to mate with older male dogs?, unless you dont class humans as animals i cant see why you would make exceptions.

peace.

peta9
09-27-07, 11:12 AM
i took you off ignore because i knew that would be a reply to me, and yes according to human biology and natural body function females can bare children and are ready for sex from the age of around 12+, alot of the time even before that.

ofcourse i wouldent want my 12 year old daughter sleeping with a 30 year old guy. but speaking from a natural viewpoint of the human species in scientific content yes she would be ready for sex after her period starts.

would you say it is wrong for a female dog of the age of 2 shouldent be allowed to mate with older male dogs?, unless you dont class humans as animals i cant see why you would make exceptions.

peace.

no duh, she can have sex after her period starts but we're talking about the immense ramifications for humans. the reasons why we have greater self-control, vision, ability to control and shape our destiny to greater extent etc.

we can eat hand to mouth and live in holes too but we don't for a reason anymore than a 12 year old should be having sex for a lot of obvious reasons.

DUH!

EmptyForceOfChi
09-27-07, 11:14 AM
no duh, she can have sex after her period starts but we're talking about the immense ramifications for humans. the reasons why we have greater self-control, vision, ability to control and shape our destiny to greater extent etc.

we can eat hand to mouth and live in holes too but we don't for a reason anymore than a 12 year old should be having sex for a lot of obvious reasons.

DUH!

i am not speaking from a subjective moral viewpoint, i am strictly speaking from a scientific angle of the human species as animals in the animal kingdom.


peace

D H
09-27-07, 11:16 AM
This is just viral spam for a PUA site. Look at this google search (http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=%2222+year+old+guy+having+sex+with+a+16+year+old +girl%22&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8).

peta9
09-27-07, 11:20 AM
i am not speaking from a subjective moral viewpoint, i am strictly speaking from a scientific angle of the human species as animals in the animal kingdom.


peace

It's not even necessarily moral. And as if no one knew a menstrual 12-13 year old could procreate.

Maybe your daughter will start having sex at 12 years of age with another 12 year old who has irresponsible parents or even a rapist and she will get pregnant. Let's see how her life works out or if she is even ready or mature enough to be a parent and i'm not talking in the most base, animalistic sense of being able to breastfeed etc. i could go on, LOL.

you are completely ignoring the consequences and the human capacity to make themselves better by shaping thier actions, awareness of consequences, conceptualizing a better society or evolving one and not being dictated totally by instinct or impulse, that's a real slave to nature.

EmptyForceOfChi
09-27-07, 11:33 AM
It's not even necessarily moral. And as if no one knew a menstrual 12-13 year old couldn't procreate.

Maybe your daughter will start having sex at 12 years of age with another 12 year old who has irresponsible parents or even a rapist and she will get pregnant. Let's see how her life works out or if she is even ready or mature enough to be a parent and i'm not talking in the most base, animalistic sense of being able to breastfeed etc. i could go on, LOL.

you are completely ignoring the consequences and the human capacity to make themselves better by shaping thier actions, awareness of consequences, conceptualizing a better society or evolving one and not being dictated totally by instinct or impulse, that's a real slave to nature.

no, women are perfectly capable of bearing children at the age of 12,. and i will say it again, im not talking about morals and society, im speaking strictly froma biological function of the human body.

i never said i agree with it because i dont think 12 year old girls should be sleeping with people. maybe you got confused with what i said about 12 year olds as oppose to 16 year olds. i have no problem with 16 year olds having sex if they consent to it first. it is perfectly normal and also legal.

i said 12 year old girls can give birth and are ready for sex at that young age in accordance to nature and biological function, i did not say it is ok in my personal opinion because its not. but wouldent i be a hypocrite because i had sex before i was 12 like alot of guys have. i also had facial hair by the time i was 12.

why do you always jump to conclusions all the time and jump right in with your moral objections as if i have insulted your honour. all i said was females can give birth at the age of 12 and can have sex at that age within natural function. i am not talking about morals or ethics. i moraly object to 12 year old girls having children in modern society, but i dont object with 16 year olds doing whatever they like with thier body.


peace.

peta9
09-27-07, 11:41 AM
no, women are perfectly capable of bearing children at the age of 12,. and i will say it again, im not talking about morals and society, im speaking strictly froma biological function of the human body.

i never said i agree with it because i dont think 12 year old girls should be sleeping with people. maybe you got confused with what i said about 12 year olds as oppose to 16 year olds. i have no problem with 16 year olds having sex if they consent to it first. it is perfectly normal and also legal.

i said 12 year old girls can give birth and are ready for sex at that young age in accordance to nature and biological function, i did not say it is ok in my personal opinion because its not. but wouldent i be a hypocrite because i had sex before i was 12 like alot of guys have. i also had facial hair by the time i was 12.

why do you always jump to conclusions all the time and jump right in with your moral objections as if i have insulted your honour. all i said was females can give birth at the age of 12 and can have sex at that age within natural function. i am not talking about morals or ethics. i moraly object to 12 year old girls having children in modern society, but i dont object with 16 year olds doing whatever they like with thier body.


peace.

Geez, i'm not even talking just ethics here. You make no sense whatsoever. Again, repeat, as if no one knows a menstrual 12 or hell, even some 9 year olds can procreate. But we ain't pigs creating litters, are we? It's a bit more compllicated than that for us and you make it seem as if it isn't.

if that were the case, you should screw everything out there, cheat on your wife and pimp out your daughter as soon as possible.

you are hardheaded and shortsighted.

EmptyForceOfChi
09-27-07, 11:46 AM
Geez, i'm not even talking just ethics here. You make no sense whatsoever. Again, repeat, as if no one knows a menstrual 12 or hell, even some 9 year olds can procreate. But we ain't pigs creating litters, are we? It's a bit more compllicated than that for us and you make it seem as if it isn't.

if that were the case, you should screw everything out there, cheat on your wife and pimp out your daughter as soon as possible.

you are hardheaded and shortsighted.

what are you talking about, what part of what i said doesent make sense?. so you object that as a biological function 12 year old girls cannot have sex and give birth?.

why should i screw everything and cheat on my wife if i understand the human biological function in females?. why am i shortsighted and hardheaded?.

females can give birth at the age of 12 thats a scientific fact of nature. im not talking about ethics and society how many times do i have to state this. your like a robot who cannot communicate with people unless they agree with you.


explain to me what part of what i said was wrong? i bet you dont.

peace.

peta9
09-27-07, 11:52 AM
what are you talking about, what part of what i said doesent make sense?. so you object that as a biological function 12 year old girls cannot have sex and give birth?.

why should i screw everything and cheat on my wife if i understand the human biological function in females?. why am i shortsighted and hardheaded?.

females can give birth at the age of 12 thats a scientific fact of nature. im not talking about ethics and society how many times do i have to state this. your like a robot who cannot communicate with people unless they agree with you.


explain to me what part of what i said was wrong? i bet you dont.

peace.

you are like an idiot telling us the sky is blue. whether she can give birth has little to do with her maturity and ability to raise that child. human children mature much slower than other animals, especially the difference between mental and physical. it's just not the same. there is a reason for that and that is why we have higher functioning societies.

EmptyForceOfChi
09-27-07, 11:57 AM
you are like an idiot telling us the sky is blue. whether she can give birth has little to do with her maturity and ability to raise that child. human children mature much slower than other animals, especially the difference between mental and physical. it's just not the same. there is a reason for that and that is why we have higher functioning societies.


again you are talking about society and human morals, i stated that women can have sex and give birth at the age of 12.
when did i say anything about if they are fit to bring up the child in modern society?


what exactly are you objecting to here?.ps, could you cut back on the emotional name calling please, i have not insulted you, and there is no need for it in a debate.

peace.

Puma
09-27-07, 12:02 PM
there is nothing wrong with this, and in the UK it is perfectly legal aswell. women of that age naturally are ready for sex, as a matter of fact females are ready to mate by natural law by the age of 12-13+.

you should not be angry at this its the girls personal choice and not for others to dictate and oppress. human law often tries to over rule natural law which is stupid. at the age of 16 humans are more than ready to start having sex and it is healthy for them to explore also.

22 is barely older than 16 anyway. there is not much difference between a 22 year old and 16 year old, especialy when the guy is 22 and the woman is 16. the woman is most likely more mature than the guy, since guys dont tend to mentaly grow up until they are atleast 30.

whats the big deal?, in most countries its not even illegal let alone immoral.
Biology aside, I'd like to put in my 2 cents.

22 and 16 is an 8-year age gap....that's a pretty big difference. He was in high school when she was just coloring and learning basic arithmetic.

Boasting about picking up on teenage girls is very funny to me and far from impressive. That's just sad and low, because of how naïve and impressionable most teenagers are. So that's what he's bragging about. The ability to pick up on a young girl who, more than likely, cannot think for herself and is easily swayed into doing just about anything, into screwing him....smooth. :rolleyes:

Picking up on women more his age (or slightly older) who are very well-educated and have degrees, a steady career, and are making some serious bank = the time to brag. That is impressive.

Just because females are mentally mature at a faster rate than males doesn't mean the girl is making a logical decision. She'd just be opening her legs to some sleezebag looking for an easy fuck.

I'm just speaking based on my morals. Personally I think it's fine for teenagers to begin exploring what sex entails so long as they prove themselves as mature and do it with a long-term boyfriend/girlfriend.

Oniw17
09-27-07, 12:12 PM
Biology aside, I'd like to put in my 2 cents.

22 and 16 is an 8-year age gap....that's a pretty big difference. He was in high school when she was just coloring and learning basic arithmetic.

Actually it's 6.

Boasting about picking up on teenage girls is very funny to me and far from impressive. That's just sad and low, because of how na´ve and impressionable most teenagers are. So that's what he's bragging about. The ability to pick up on a young girl who, more than likely, cannot think for herself and is easily swayed into doing just about anything, into screwing him....smooth. :rolleyes:
WTF? She can't think for herself at 16?

EmptyForceOfChi
09-27-07, 12:12 PM
Biology aside, I'd like to put in my 2 cents.

22 and 16 is an 8-year age gap....that's a pretty big difference. He was in high school when she was just coloring and learning basic arithmetic.

Boasting about picking up on teenage girls is very funny to me and far from impressive. That's just sad and low, because of how naïve and impressionable most teenagers are. So that's what he's bragging about. The ability to pick up on a young girl who, more than likely, cannot think for herself and is easily swayed into doing just about anything, into screwing him....smooth. :rolleyes:

Picking up on women more his age (or slightly older) who are very well-educated and have degrees, a steady career, and are making some serious bank = the time to brag. That is impressive.

Just because females are mentally mature at a faster rate than males doesn't mean the girl is making a logical decision. She'd just be opening her legs to some sleezebag looking for an easy fuck.

so by your logic you would also object to a 40 year old getting with a 34 year old as the 6 year gap is wrong. what if the 16 year old girl and 22 year old guy were in love and cared alot for each other?.



it is perfectly legal for a 22 year old to get with a 16 year old, what if the guy was 16 and the girl was 22 that is also just a woman looking for an easy fuck and take advantage of a young guy?

when i was 16 i slept with women who were over 20 years old, my wife is 20 and i am nearly 23. the law states that it is fine also so it is the general moral rule in the UK that it is fine. people here dont object to it, we know that a 16 year old can be just as mature as a 25 year old.

16 year old girls are not stupid, they dont even attend school anymore. here in england you leave school and start college at 16 maybe we mature faster than you guys due to better education i dont know.


this is your subjective moral opinion and my subjective moral opinion, you cannot state that either of us is wrong, as it is purely opinion based and not factual. we could run around in circles all day long saying who is righht and who is wrong, but i think you will find that neither of us are right or wrong. we just have different opinion in a subjective matter,

peace.

mikenostic
09-27-07, 12:19 PM
Picking up on women more his age (or slightly older) who are very well-educated and have degrees, a steady career, and are making some serious bank = the time to brag. That is impressive.
More his age would essentially be 17-21. Just how many girls between that age do you know that have degrees, a steady career and making serious money. :bugeye:
I also know VERY FEW girls that are in that age range that date guys their age, let alone younger ones. If he's 22 and can land a 24-25 year old that wants to date him instead of a late 20s/early 30s guy that does have maturity, then he should consider himself lucky.


Just because females are mentally mature at a faster rate than males doesn't mean the girl is making a logical decision. She'd just be opening her legs to some sleezebag looking for an easy fuck.
Then if that were the case, and she knew that, then she herself would seem to be only looking for a sex buddy. They both consent. What's the problem?

Vega
09-27-07, 12:21 PM
16 is considered an adult in Scotland...so what the hell!!!

draqon
09-27-07, 12:23 PM
Hi. Long time reader, first time poster.

I found this in a fitness forum.

A guy, 22, wants to have sex with a girl who's 16. I'm the dad of a 1 year old daughter. I am worried about her enough as it is, but I cant think of how much I'd worry about this if this was my daughter. I'm angry about this guy doing this, am I right to be angry? What would you do if your daughter was in this situation?

(to make things equal, you can read the 22 year old guys side on his blog, becomingapua.com/2007/09/06/having-sex-with-a-16-year-old/ )

depends what country. If its USA it is illegal.

as for all other countries it is legal. I see nothing wrong with this. Especially by the fact that 16 year old woman (not a girl) has already sexually matured (girls mature much faster than men).

Puma
09-27-07, 12:31 PM
WTF? She can't think for herself at 16?
I was implying that many teenagers make terrible decisions, using her age as a way to explain her na´vity. I'm not saying ALL teens are like that though.



so by your logic you would also object to a 40 year old getting with a 34 year old as the 6 year gap is wrong.
That is completely different as they are both adults.



hat if the 16 year old girl and 22 year old guy were in love and cared alot for each other?
Good. If they're in the United States, they should pray they don't get caught. Luckily they're in Canada.



it is perfectly legal for a 22 year old to get with a 16 year old, what if the guy was 16 and the girl was 22 that is also just a woman looking for an easy fuck and take advantage of a young guy?
Same thing. Kinda reminds me of the MaryKay LeTourneau case....only they were in love, eventually got married, and had kids. Of course, they were bound by law at the time of the scandal.



we know that a 16 year old can be just as mature as a 25 year old.
Some are, some aren't. Perhaps I'm surrounded by many stupid, immature teenage girls here in Southern California.



16 year old girls are not stupid.
Maybe not, maybe so. But the decisions that a lot of them make are ones they'd most likely regret in the future.



this is your subjective moral opinion and my subjective moral opinion, you cannot state that either of us is wrong, as it is purely opinion based and not factual. we could run around in circles all day long saying who is righht and who is wrong, but i think you will find that neither of us are right or wrong. we just have different opinion in a subjective matter.
Exactly.



If he's 22 and can land a 24-25 year old that wants to date him instead of a late 20s/early 30s guy that does have maturity, then he should consider himself lucky.
Exactly. That would be way more of an impressive feat to brag about.



Then if that were the case, and she knew that, then she herself would seem to be only looking for a sex buddy. They both consent. What's the problem?
Even so, I strongly disagree with their decision, regardless of legality. Then again, this is my subjective opinion stemming from my morals.

draqon
09-27-07, 12:34 PM
That is completely different as they are both adults.


Just like I said a 16 year old girl is sexually mature...girls mature sexually much earlier than men.

Vega
09-27-07, 12:38 PM
... just move to scotland for a quickie!!!:)

EmptyForceOfChi
09-27-07, 12:40 PM
That is completely different as they are both adults.

well this is also a matter of regional opinion, in alot of countries 16 is the age of adulthood, not to mention that women have sexualy matured by the time they are 16.




Good. If they're in the United States, they should pray they don't get caught. Luckily they're in Canada.

USA laws are in the minority when it comes to sexual antics. most places liek the UK allow sex at the age of 16 with no restrictions.




Same thing. Kinda reminds me of the MaryKay LeTourneau case....only they were in love, eventually got married, and had kids. Of course, they were bound by law at the time of the scandal.

see id ont see a problem with this, if it is actualy love between the 2 consenting humans, age is not an issue aslong as they are both mature enough to understand everything that is going on.



Some are, some aren't. Perhaps I'm surrounded by many stupid, immature teenage girls here in Southern California.

i wouldent know about girls from cali,





Exactly.

yeah this is all down to subjective morals and opinions, i respect that, aslong as people dont try to dictate what other consenting mature humans get up too. we should be free to do what we like aslong as it does not harm others. if a 16 year old wants to date a 22 year old and the feeling is mutual then thats fine in my eyes, good luck to them.


peace.

draqon
09-27-07, 12:45 PM
... just move to scotland for a quickie!!!:)

nah I am only interested in Russian girls

SoLiDUS
09-27-07, 01:55 PM
Old enough to bleed, old enough to breed. Nature/evolution says yes, society/culture says no.

I don't see the problem if they both consent and have a good time.

peta9
09-27-07, 01:57 PM
^hah. teenage pregnancy is so great. a kid having a kid for thier grandparent to raise.

draqon
09-27-07, 01:58 PM
^hah. teenage pregnancy is so great. a kid having a kid for thier grandparent to raise.

in future more like....

teenage pregnancy is so great. a kid having a kid for their grand grand grand grand parents to raise

Oniw17
09-27-07, 01:59 PM
^hah. teenage pregnancy is so great. a kid having a kid for thier grandparent to raise.

It is what it is:shrug:.

SoLiDUS
09-27-07, 02:01 PM
^hah. teenage pregnancy is so great. a kid having a kid for thier grandparent to raise.

Let's make something clear, shall we? I was referring to them having sex, not procreating.

Not that it makes any difference if their goal is the latter: assuming they're financially ready to bear the costs/burden of having a child, I still see no problem with it.

We as a species have done it for over one hundred thousand years. Surely, with modern society, we're more prepared to deal with it now than ever before.

francois
09-27-07, 03:10 PM
I certainly would not allow my 16 year old daughter date a 22 year old. No freakin' way. I might let her date a 19 year old, but 22? No effing way.

draqon
09-27-07, 03:11 PM
I certainly would not allow my 16 year old daughter date a 22 year old. No freakin' way. I might let her date a 19 year old, but 22? No effing way.

19 and 22 year old? a 22 year old at least has money...a 19 year old is a broke

francois
09-27-07, 03:15 PM
Yeah, but he (the 19 year old) might be in high school. He's still a boy. She's definitely a girl. A girl should be dating boys, not men.

draqon
09-27-07, 03:16 PM
Yeah, but he (the 19 year old) might be in high school. He's still a boy. She's definitely a girl. A girl should be dating boys, not men.

like I said girls mature sexually way younger. A 16 year old girl is defenetly sexually mature.

draqon
09-27-07, 03:18 PM
And she has authority over her choices, not her parents.

mikenostic
09-27-07, 03:18 PM
I certainly would not allow my 16 year old daughter date a 22 year old. No freakin' way. I might let her date a 19 year old, but 22? No effing way.
:bugeye:
1. And if she likes him enough to be determined to see him, you are going to stop her how?
2. Uhhh, yeah. The three scant years separating a 19 and 22 year old makes a huge difference. :rolleyes:


19 and 22 year old? a 22 year old at least has money...a 19 year old is a broke
What?
Unless the 22 year old gets REAL lucky and lands a high paying job, he is going to be just as broke as the 19 year old, especially if they both are still in college.

francois
09-27-07, 03:20 PM
Sexually mature isn't what matters here. Actually, girls are often sexually mature at 13, or even earlier. That doesn't mean she should go dating 22 year olds or 35 year olds. But according to you "She's sexually mature! Who cares?"

What matters is overall maturity. At young ages like this, age matters, because it reflects emotional and intellectual maturity.

shorty_37
09-27-07, 03:24 PM
My neighbours daughter 18 and was going out with some
loser 35.......she now has a baby, this guy treats her like shit.....and she looks like
life has kicked the shit out of her. I have no idea what she was thinking.....

Anyhow I am not sure how I feel about the 16 yr old dating the 22 yr old.
But I DEFINATELY have a problem with some 30 yr MAN dating a 16 yr old KID

draqon
09-27-07, 03:24 PM
Sexually mature isn't what matters here. Actually, girls are often sexually mature at 13, or even earlier. That doesn't mean she should go dating 22 year olds or 35 year olds. But according to you "She's sexually mature! Who cares?"

What matters is overall maturity. At young ages like this, age matters, because it reflects emotional and intellectual maturity.

the higher the age of a woman...the more probability there is she will give birth to an unhealthy baby. (of course too low of an age...is bad as well)

francois
09-27-07, 03:24 PM
:bugeye:
1. And if she likes him enough to be determined to see him, you are going to stop her how?
Does that matter for this argument? I'm saying I wouldn't tolerate it. How might I stop her? I might threaten to punch her in the ovaries, give her a lobotomy when she's sleeping, chastity belt, house arrest, etc.


2. Uhhh, yeah. The three scant years separating a 19 and 22 year old makes a huge difference. :rolleyes:
Well, yeah, I agree, it doesn't make a huge difference. That's why I said I would probably tolerate it. Three years ain't a big thing. Six years, is a big thing, when we're dealing with such young ages. A 50 year old with a 56 year old? Sure. A 16 year old with a 22 year old? Not on my watch.

draqon
09-27-07, 03:25 PM
That's why I said I would probably tolerate it. .

Tolerate it? At 19 she/he should be their own individuals, free as birds.

francois
09-27-07, 03:28 PM
the higher the age of a woman...the more probability there is she will give birth to an unhealthy baby. (of course too low of an age...is bad as well)

Dude... what's better? A 16 year old mother, or a 25 year old old mother? 25 year old women give healthy babies, draqon. Not only that, but they're actually able to provide for them! We're getting away from the matter though.

The matter is emotional and intellectual maturity, not sexual maturity. Sex and babies and all that shit doesn't even need to get into this argument.

francois
09-27-07, 03:30 PM
Tolerate it? At 19 she/he should be their own individuals, free as birds.

Dude.. I'm talking about a 16 year old girl with a 22 year old guy. I'm not talking about 19 year olds. I just said I would tolerate my 16 year old girl with a 19 year old. That's it. Of course a 19 year old is free to do what he wants. He can date my daughter if he's a good guy, but that's about where I would cross the line.

shorty_37
09-27-07, 03:37 PM
I am lucky I have 2 boys..........but if my son was 22 and brought
home a 16 yr old girl, I wouldn't be happy! I would tell him to find
a girl closer to his own age.

draqon
09-27-07, 03:46 PM
I am lucky I have 2 boys..........but if my son was 22 and brought
home a 16 yr old girl, I wouldn't be happy! I would tell him to find
a girl closer to his own age.

well obviously its USA. in USA its illegal.

cosmictraveler
09-27-07, 03:47 PM
I am lucky I have 2 boys..........but if my son was 22 and brought
home a 16 yr old girl, I wouldn't be happy! I would tell him to find
a girl closer to his own age.

In mental and emotional age those two ages are about equall.

s0meguy
09-27-07, 04:10 PM
I am lucky I have 2 boys..........but if my son was 22 and brought
home a 16 yr old girl, I wouldn't be happy! I would tell him to find
a girl closer to his own age.

I feel sorry for your children

shorty_37
09-27-07, 04:18 PM
I feel sorry for your children

This coming from the guy who made this statement earlier;

I wouldn't even bat an eyelash if a 30 year old were to fuck a 16 year old given mutual consent.

shorty_37
09-27-07, 04:24 PM
I mean I could give him my opinion at that age, if he listened
would be a different story. I think at 16 and 22 though they would
be in totally different spots in their life. Plus I have seen some of these
little "bitches" running around my neighbourhood chasing anybody with a nice
car and a bit of money. I hope my boys have more sense then to fall for that.
I can only try and hope I put them in the right direction.

I think I am going to be in big trouble.......They are both cute....
But the younger one is gorgeous..and a great personality...He has girls chasing him now.
Whenever we go out ppl comment on how cute he is all the time.

Oli
09-27-07, 04:34 PM
IWhenever we go out ppl comment on how cute he is all the time.

In which case he's going to grow up a psycho - calling a guy "cute" is guaranteed to do that :D

shorty_37
09-27-07, 04:35 PM
In which case he's going to grow up a psycho - calling a guy "cute" is guaranteed to do that :D

well maybe when he is older it will change to "handsome" neitche says looking at the 2 of us together is like seeing double lmao

s0meguy
09-27-07, 04:36 PM
This coming from the guy who made this statement earlier;

I wouldn't even bat an eyelash if a 30 year old were to fuck a 16 year old given mutual consent.

I feel sorry for them having you as a mother.

draqon
09-27-07, 04:36 PM
In which case he's going to grow up a psycho - calling a guy "cute" is guaranteed to do that :D

that definitely true.

mikenostic
09-27-07, 04:37 PM
well maybe when he is older it will change to "handsome" neitche says looking at the 2 of us together is like seeing double lmao

Your son has long hair and boobies too?

shorty_37
09-27-07, 04:40 PM
Your son has long hair and boobies too?

HAHAH no although he grew his hair out like a skateboarder now.
No he has the same face, and same personality..... poor child

shorty_37
09-27-07, 04:42 PM
I feel sorry for them having you as a mother.

Can you say anything else you are repeating yourself:bugeye:

[a-5]
09-27-07, 05:04 PM
Please don't try to preach your morals to us. I don't see why you should be angry, upset, perhaps, but angry? No. Besides, if it's consensual, then it's totally legal and therefore okay in the eyes of the law. The most you can do is give your daughter a sex talk at age 13 or 14 and pray she listens. And as she grows up, don't be a father figure, be more of a friend.

Bells
09-27-07, 05:38 PM
;1558058']Please don't try to preach your morals to us. I don't see why you should be angry, upset, perhaps, but angry? No. Besides, if it's consensual, then it's totally legal and therefore okay in the eyes of the law. The most you can do is give your daughter a sex talk at age 13 or 14 and pray she listens. And as she grows up, don't be a father figure, be more of a friend.

A parent is meant to guide and counsel their child. Not be a "friend". A father cannot not be a father figure in their child's life.

I have to ask myself, why would a 22 year old want to date a 16 year old? While it is not a big age gap in terms of years, the difference in the maturity and emotional level is vast. Can he not find a woman in his age range to date?

SoLiDUS
09-27-07, 05:39 PM
People in this thread act as if 16 year olds are complete retards. I don't know how it works elsewhere, but in Quebec, we're graduating high school at 16/17: if you're saying these adolescents are unable to think their actions through and have consensual sex, you might have set the bar higher than required...

Puma
09-27-07, 06:14 PM
well this is also a matter of regional opinion, in alot of countries 16 is the age of adulthood, not to mention that women have sexualy matured by the time they are 16.
Everything I've said involves [my thoughts on their] mental maturity and decision making (which I apprently disagree with) while disregarding sexual/physical maturity.



i wouldent know about girls from cali,
Yeah I figured. Be glad you don't...hahah.



yeah this is all down to subjective morals and opinions, i respect that, aslong as people dont try to dictate what other consenting mature humans get up too. we should be free to do what we like aslong as it does not harm others. if a 16 year old wants to date a 22 year old and the feeling is mutual then thats fine in my eyes, good luck to them.
And thank you for being civil, I appreciate that. I hope I didn't come off too strongly as if I was trying to shove my own beliefs down others throats as I was simply sharing my thoughts. :)

My beliefs probably stem from the fact that I myself am still a young female (18) and have had a handful of girlfriends from high school who've experienced teenage pregnancy.

Bells
09-27-07, 06:15 PM
People in this thread act as if 16 year olds are complete retards. I don't know how it works elsewhere, but in Quebec, we're graduating high school at 16/17: if you're saying these adolescents are unable to think their actions through and have consensual sex, you might have set the bar higher than required...

I am not saying they are retards. But the greater majority are less mature and able to handle an adult relationship than a 22 year old.

But then again, there are some 22 year old's who act like 12 year olds.

Is a 16 year old able to think their actions through prior to entering a sexual relationship? Of course they are. But many do not think or even consider the consequences. But that is beside the point in this thread. While you may be graduating from high school at the age of 16 or 17, that does not make you mature or adult.

Now the question stands. Why would a 22 year old want to date a 16 year old girl?

Varda
09-27-07, 06:38 PM
if i ever have a daughter, she's not having sex, ever

peta9
09-27-07, 06:51 PM
if i ever have a daughter, she's not having sex, ever

aww, what a protective mama..

shorty_37
09-27-07, 06:54 PM
I don't know about this scenerio but I find alot of young
guys are after Older women, not younger. When I would
go out to a club or something when I was 30 ish. I would get
hit on by 23, 24 yr olds. Neitzche is 5 yrs younger then me too.

draqon
09-27-07, 06:54 PM
aww, what a protective mama..

Brazil is known for its abstinence, especially the girls, they are so against sex. :rolleyes:

draqon
09-27-07, 06:55 PM
I don't know about this scenerio but I find alot of young
guys are after Older women, not younger. When I would
go out to a club or something when I was 30 ish. I would get
hit on by 23, 24 yr olds.

untrue. Guys have always been after younger girls.

shorty_37
09-27-07, 06:57 PM
untrue. Guys have always been after younger girls.

yeah OLD ( like 40-50) guys chase young girls.(20 something)......but here i find young guys (20 something) chase older women (30 +).

Varda
09-27-07, 06:58 PM
I don't know about this scenerio but I find alot of young
guys are after Older women, not younger. When I would
go out to a club or something when I was 30 ish. I would get
hit on by 23, 24 yr olds. Neitzche is 5 yrs younger then me too.

that is not necessarily true in general... maybe you looked better around your 30s than you did before

draqon
09-27-07, 06:59 PM
yeah OLD ( like 40-50) guys chase young girls.(20 something)......but here i find young guys (20 something) chase older women (30 +).

well I am 20...
no I am a bad example. :cool: darn

Varda
09-27-07, 07:01 PM
Brazil is known for its abstinence, especially the girls, they are so against sex. :rolleyes:

i thought brazil was known for the anal sex... don't ask me, I have no idea... I just get asked about that a lot on the internet ... wtf?

draqon
09-27-07, 07:03 PM
i thought brazil was known for the anal sex... don't ask me, I have no idea... I just get asked about that a lot on the internet ... wtf?

humor you know. sarcasm.

shorty_37
09-27-07, 07:05 PM
that is not necessarily true in general... maybe you looked better around your 30s than you did before

I don't think that is the case. I never had a problem attracting men at any age.
From what I gather alot of the younger girls today expect a free ride. They expect the guy to pay for everything, buy them everything.....etc. Thats what they told me anyway, when I asked them. With an older woman, that prob has a career and her own money car, they don't expect that.

draqon
09-27-07, 07:10 PM
I don't think that is the case. I never had a problem attracting men at any age.
From what I gather alot of the younger girls today expect a free ride. They expect the guy to pay for everything, buy them everything.....etc. Thats what they told me anyway, when I asked them. With an older woman, that prob has a career and her own money they don't expect that.

yeah that exactly what I wanted to tell you.
I had my date 15 days ago...my first date at age 20. Well I met her online thought I will meet her. Met her...my jaw dropped she was so repulsive...well anyways I faked that I liked her and we talked. But than the next day when I got a mail from her and she told me she really like it, I told her we were too different for each other...and lied, telling her that it is because she is a graduate student and I am undergraduate and that she is 22 and I am 20.
so thats how it went...But also I ended up paying for the stuff we ate, and I was like calculating in my mind, no way I can be with her I will go broke in 10 days.

shorty_37
09-27-07, 07:12 PM
repulsive? you didn't know what she looked like before you met?

draqon
09-27-07, 07:13 PM
repulsive? you didn't know what she looked like before you met?

well in a pic she kinda looked better...so I thought ok I will grind my teeth and make it happen...but in reality she was even worse

shorty_37
09-27-07, 07:16 PM
well in a pic she kinda looked better...so I thought ok I will grind my teeth and make it happen...but in reality she was even worse

ahhhhhhhh poor guy

draqon
09-27-07, 07:18 PM
ahhhhhhhh poor guy

me?
:bugeye:
really?

EmptyForceOfChi
09-27-07, 09:00 PM
Everything I've said involves [my thoughts on their] mental maturity and decision making (which I apprently disagree with) while disregarding sexual/physical maturity.
yeah but physical maturity is directly linked to physical maturity, bot are important in my opinion. but i think this can be seperated into individual cases, is it right to say all 16 year olds are not mature enough. some are some are not, but for the ones who are mature enough i dont think it should be frowned upon.




Yeah I figured. Be glad you don't...hahah.

im sure i know the type here in london.


And thank you for being civil, I appreciate that. I hope I didn't come off too strongly as if I was trying to shove my own beliefs down others throats as I was simply sharing my thoughts. :)
giving opinions is fine thats what ethics are all about, share away.



My beliefs probably stem from the fact that I myself am still a young female (18) and have had a handful of girlfriends from high school who've experienced teenage pregnancy
mistakes and bad things will happen within everything in life, some teenagers can raise a good family. alot probably cannot, my partner was 19 when she was first pregnant she is 20 now. our child will be looked after and provided for well, with a good set of parents who happen to be young.

there is always exceptions to the morals, everyone has the right to think differently than others.


peace.

Varda
09-27-07, 10:29 PM
I don't think that is the case. I never had a problem attracting men at any age.
From what I gather alot of the younger girls today expect a free ride. They expect the guy to pay for everything, buy them everything.....etc. Thats what they told me anyway, when I asked them. With an older woman, that prob has a career and her own money car, they don't expect that.

you kind of lost your argument there... you are argumenting that young guys want older women, but you say that at any age, you attract men

so maybe you're so good looking that even though you're much older men will say that kind of stuff to get into your knickers, not necessarily that being their true opinion

if there was an actual difference you noticed for different ages, then maybe you had a point, although this is all subjective to you and complete speculation on my part

vslayer
09-28-07, 12:25 AM
yeah OLD ( like 40-50) guys chase young girls.(20 something)......but here i find young guys (20 something) chase older women (30 +).

it depends what we're looking for. if its just sex then i have no problem with a girl my age/a bit younger, but any from of relationship requires intelligence on their half... something which a lot of people(not just women) my age seem to lack.

James R
09-28-07, 02:06 AM
there is nothing wrong with this, and in the UK it is perfectly legal aswell.

In Australia,if it was an 18 year old and a 16 year old, there would be no problem. But for a 22 year old and a 16 year old, if the 16 year old later wanted to press charges for sexual penetration, she could do so.


women of that age naturally are ready for sex, as a matter of fact females are ready to mate by natural law by the age of 12-13+.

Biological ability to carry a child does not equate to emotional readiness, intellectual readiness, or even necessarily the physical readiness to bear a child without long-term implications for the mother's health.


you should not be angry at this its the girls personal choice and not for others to dictate and oppress. human law often tries to over rule natural law which is stupid. at the age of 16 humans are more than ready to start having sex and it is healthy for them to explore also.

It may not be the girl's informed choice. She may be being pushed into it by a randy 22 year old male. What then? Still ok with you?

The "natural law" you mention is really nothing other than a cover for your own gut feeling and your own moral judgment. The fact is, there is no "natural law" of the kind you mention.


22 is barely older than 16 anyway. there is not much difference between a 22 year old and 16 year old, especialy when the guy is 22 and the woman is 16. the woman is most likely more mature than the guy, since guys dont tend to mentaly grow up until they are atleast 30.

I don't know how old you are, but it sounds like you've forgotten what it was like to be 16 or 22.


would you say it is wrong for a female dog of the age of 2 shouldent be allowed to mate with older male dogs?

What a silly comparison. Do you think female dogs have a choice in the matter, usually? Do you wish to remove choice from human females too?


so by your logic you would also object to a 40 year old getting with a 34 year old as the 6 year gap is wrong.

Do you really see no difference in emotional maturity between the average 16 year old and the average 34 year old?

Puma
09-28-07, 03:09 AM
yeah but physical maturity is directly linked to physical maturity, bot are important in my opinion. but i think this can be seperated into individual cases,
Being physically mature is directly linked to being mentally mature? I very strongly disagree. When I was 12-13, my female peers and I had it all (physically), but were FAR from ready to bear children. Sure, we were only pre-teens (or still babies, more like)...but going by your logic, we were physically mature and had the ability to make a rational decision on having sex. We didn't even know what a real wang and balls looked like.



is it right to say all 16 year olds are not mature enough. some are some are not, but for the ones who are mature enough i dont think it should be frowned upon.
I'd only look down on it IF the teenager (especially a girl) were mindlessly sleeping around. Otherwise, if he/she were in a long-term relationship, were emotionally ready and smart enough to [correctly] use contraception, and were able to handle any possible rammifications....then by all means, go nuts.

Stryder
09-28-07, 05:42 AM
This is just viral spam for a PUA site. Look at this google search (http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=%2222+year+old+guy+having+sex+with+a+16+year+old +girl%22&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8).

Dealt with.

After all it picks a topic that people generally have opinions on in regards to youth and age differences, at the age of 16 a person isn't usually classified as a child, however they aren't quite and adult either. For instance people can marry at the age of 16 in the UK with their parents consent. Obviously for an 'Advert' it did what it was suppose to do, draw attention to a blog, clever deceptive piece of Subliminal Linguistic programming on the part of the OP bot.

s0meguy
09-28-07, 06:14 AM
Being physically mature is directly linked to being mentally mature? I very strongly disagree. When I was 12-13, my female peers and I had it all (physically), but were FAR from ready to bear children. Sure, we were only pre-teens (or still babies, more like)...but going by your logic, we were physically mature and had the ability to make a rational decision on having sex. We didn't even know what a real wang and balls looked like

I know many girls that have had their first sexual encounter around the age of 13-14. None of them are or have been pregnant...

Whether or not girls (or boys) are qualified to make decisions regarding sex does not depend on their age (from when nature deems them 'ripe' for sex) but rather education. Note that trying to force them (or tell them) not to have sex is not proper education, and is counter-productive.

Blue_UK
09-28-07, 08:59 AM
I'm 25 and my gf is 19 - :)

EmptyForceOfChi
09-28-07, 11:45 AM
In Australia,if it was an 18 year old and a 16 year old, there would be no problem. But for a 22 year old and a 16 year old, if the 16 year old later wanted to press charges for sexual penetration, she could do so.

thats australia and down to regional opinion based morale laws. here in the UK it is perfectly fine and in accordance with the law.




Biological ability to carry a child does not equate to emotional readiness, intellectual readiness, or even necessarily the physical readiness to bear a child without long-term implications for the mother's health.

i dont doubt this, but as i stated before i was speaking purely about biological and scientific terms.




It may not be the girl's informed choice. She may be being pushed into it by a randy 22 year old male. What then? Still ok with you?

this is down to individual case situations, which cannot be judged by a single overall ethical basis. in certain cases ofcourse it will be true, but can you tarr all people with one brush and give them all the same guidelines?. what if the 16 year old is very mature and knows what she is doing. also the guy could be perfectly honest in his intentions within the relationship.


The "natural law" you mention is really nothing other than a cover for your own gut feeling and your own moral judgment. The fact is, there is no "natural law" of the kind you mention.

and you do not agree with my personal opinions, using your own personal opinions to try and debunk them. i respect your opinoins but you cannot dicatate to others when its down to moral choices. the natural law of the animal kingdom is a factual scientific study and on-going function in the world. i was merely stating at which age human females can give birth, thats all. i am allowed to have a seperate morale opinon of that which is dictated in the natural world of animals.



I don't know how old you are, but it sounds like you've forgotten what it was like to be 16 or 22.

well your assumption would be incorrect, because i am 22 years old.



What a silly comparison. Do you think female dogs have a choice in the matter, usually? Do you wish to remove choice from human females too?

when did i say anything of the sort?. again i was stating a fact of the animal kingdom its a shame you dont see nature for what it is. maybe you forget humans are part of the animal kingdom. i dont wish for women to be subjected to anything by force. we are talking about a consenting 16 year old and 22 year old. dont try to turn my stance into somethign that it clearly is not.



Do you really see no difference in emotional maturity between the average 16 year old and the average 34 year old?

yes i do when did i say anything about 34 year olds?. i actualy said quite the opposite, a male of 22 is not really much more mature than a 16 year old girl. guys dont mature fully mentaly until they hit over 25-30.

i see no problem with a 16 year old sleeping with a 22 year old, thats my opinion and it is not right or wrong. its subjective, you can keep your own opinion and i respect that. but you have to allow me the equal right to hold a different opinon that conflicts with your own. you cannot dictate ethics onto others.


peace.

Puma
09-28-07, 12:14 PM
I know many girls that have had their first sexual encounter around the age of 13-14. None of them are or have been pregnant...
I was talking about sexual intercourse. If the girls had gone that far and were careless enough to have done the deed without protection, then they're very lucky. Regardless of the activity, they still put themselves at risk for STD's/STI's.

I've even had my first sexual encounter at the age of 14, but regret doing so at such a young age.



Note that trying to force them (or tell them) not to have sex is not proper education, and is counter-productive.
True, and it may lead them into being more curious and pushing them further into engaging in sexual activity.

draqon
09-28-07, 01:52 PM
I'm 25 and my gf is 19 - :)

how do you get such luck?

s0meguy
09-28-07, 02:33 PM
how do you get such luck?

Younger women tend to be easier to seduce because they are less experienced...

draqon
09-28-07, 02:34 PM
Younger women tend to be easier to seduce because they are less experienced...

so how should I approach them? (lure them in)?
Should I rent some real fancy car and drive up to her and tell he "hey beautiful, want a ride?"

Xev
09-28-07, 02:36 PM
so how should I approach them? (lure them in)?
Should I rent some real fancy car and drive up to her and tell he "hey beautiful, want a ride?"

Chicks dig segways. And mopeds.

draqon
09-28-07, 02:37 PM
Chicks dig segways. And mopeds.

....:p segways...I thought old people ride segways...:rolleyes:

Xev
09-28-07, 02:45 PM
....:p segways...I thought old people ride segways...:rolleyes:

Well, you'll get old chicks then.

draqon
09-28-07, 02:46 PM
Well, you'll get old chicks then.

no thanks. I need young cutiee pie's, innocent lil angels.

Deathfromabove
09-28-07, 02:53 PM
no thanks. I need young cutiee pie's, innocent lil angels.

So you can be first to deflower them????

draqon
09-28-07, 02:57 PM
So you can be first to deflower them????

and last. not them/but her. the only one.

Varda
09-28-07, 03:22 PM
I'm 25 and my husband is 31, so when I was 16, he was 22

OMG :O

draqon
09-28-07, 03:23 PM
I'm 25 and my husband is 31, so when I was 16, he was 22

OMG :O

aint nothin wrong with that. Brazil=abstinence :rolleyes:

Borsviek
09-28-07, 09:02 PM
aint nothin wrong with that. Brazil=abstinence :rolleyes:

So then america isn't the land of the free!:eek:

draqon
09-28-07, 09:02 PM
So then america isn't the land of the free!:eek:

never has been.

Borsviek
09-28-07, 09:15 PM
never has been.

Dammit then why do so many people want to immigrate to there?! It gets obnoxious.:(

draqon
09-28-07, 09:15 PM
Dammit then why do so many people want to immigrate to there?! It gets obnoxious.:(

money, its all about money.

Borsviek
09-28-07, 09:18 PM
rrrrrrrrrrrrggggghhhhh!!! mush detroy capitalism!

draqon
09-28-07, 09:20 PM
rrrrrrrrrrrrggggghhhhh!!! mush detroy capitalism!

...

is there anything else in you besides the illusionary communist image you are putting up for us to see?

Borsviek
09-28-07, 09:22 PM
................................

Borsviek
09-28-07, 09:23 PM
€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€.

I'm sorry, i can't help myself.

Borsviek
09-28-07, 09:24 PM
Returning to the subject, yeah I think a 22 year old CAN have sex with a 16 year old.

Varda
09-29-07, 07:08 AM
aint nothin wrong with that. Brazil=abstinence :rolleyes:

damn you

s0meguy
09-29-07, 07:14 AM
so how should I approach them? (lure them in)?
Should I rent some real fancy car and drive up to her and tell he "hey beautiful, want a ride?"

You have to be far more subtle... If you're serious about it, you can PM me.

spuriousmonkey
09-29-07, 07:15 AM
I'm 25 and my husband is 31, so when I was 16, he was 22

OMG :O

that's nothing. my wife is 28. i am 37

Vega
09-29-07, 07:16 AM
Returning to the subject, yeah I think a 22 year old CAN have sex with a 16 year old.

Yeah just like a brother and sister!!! so whatz your point???

Blue_UK
09-29-07, 09:32 AM
how do you get such luck?

Like Someguy says, they are less experianced - so you have to invest more time training them up but in the end it's worth it!

You have to look for that magical combination of beauty and low self esteem.

Borsviek
09-29-07, 03:15 PM
Yeah just like a brother and sister!!! so whatz your point???

Well, what's this poll about?:shrug: I find nothing wrong with it.

mountainhare
09-29-07, 09:01 PM
James:


It may not be the girl's informed choice. She may be being pushed into it by a randy 22 year old male. What then? Still ok with you?


The dignified 22 year old male may have been pushed into having sex with a randy 16 year old girl, who threw herself on him...

Reiku
09-29-07, 09:22 PM
One word.

Consent.

Get over it.

whitewolf
09-29-07, 10:52 PM
Wtf is wrong with you, people? 12-year-old guys have sex, too! Legal or not, kids who want to do it sneak out and do it. I remember, when I was 12-13 it was important for me to make my own choices, and I was pretty conscious and reasonable by that time already. It doesn't mean teens choose to have babies, it only means they choose to have sex. If they want to try older people, that's perfectly fine; because teens learn from experience and they're young enough not to ruin their entire lives with a poor choice or two. Believe you me, by the age of 16, pretty much everyone has sex except some losers and morally beat-down people. Yet you're all yapping here like you waited till 21 to get rid of your virginities. You people are turning sick with old age, it's yucky.

peta9
09-29-07, 11:00 PM
Wtf is wrong with you, people? 12-year-old guys have sex, too! Legal or not, kids who want to do it sneak out and do it. I remember, when I was 12-13 it was important for me to make my own choices, and I was pretty conscious and reasonable by that time already. It doesn't mean teens choose to have babies, it only means they choose to have sex. If they want to try older people, that's perfectly fine; because teens learn from experience and they're young enough not to ruin their entire lives with a poor choice or two. Believe you me, by the age of 16, pretty much everyone has sex except some losers and morally beat-down people. Yet you're all yapping here like you waited till 21 to get rid of your virginities. You people are turning sick with old age, it's yucky.

actually, more evolved people have greater self-control. there are males and females that actually wait a while or would not totally lose it running around like a dumb skank or animal in heat like you see a lot and pregnant teenagers. so speak for yourself and they are just as attractive too.
the problem isn't so much that they are sexually curious within thier agegroup but they are vulnerable to sexual exploitation. it's natural to be attracted to the opposite sex at this time within your age group, flirt and even make out but full blown out sex i disagree they are ready for that especially emotionally.

Reiku
09-29-07, 11:06 PM
''actually, more evolved people have greater self-control. there are males and females that actually wait a while''

I know a few humans like this...

whitewolf
09-29-07, 11:06 PM
actually, more evolved people have greater self-control. there are males and females that actually wait a while or would not totally lose it running around like a dumb skank or animal in heat like you see a lot and pregnant teenagers. so speak for yourself and they are just as attractive too.

Do all people who have sex run around like deranged dogs in heat? By the way, a girl is either a skank or a virgin? All teen girls who have sex have unprotected sex and get babies? Do me a favor over there, slap yourself back into senses. Usually, kids learn about condoms and sex before they become (biologically) mature enough to have sex. They don't learn it from parents, but pass it around among each other; that's why, when a parent sits down for that "sex talk," it appears so hilarious.

Reiku
09-29-07, 11:09 PM
They will wait months before selecting anyone to have sex with.

Howsoever, saying that, i also know my fair share of nymphos and dogs. One girl i know, [for obvious reasons i cannot disclose her name] did it will someone 42 years older than her, and she was only 15! Needless to say she is a pure dog herself...

ripleofdeath
09-30-07, 12:27 AM
If the man were to have explained the facts of life to his 16 year old daughter and raised her by being honest about life and the way people are, then he shouldn't have any problems with her. If he didn't raise her with proper guidance then I would think she maybe taken advantage of because of her naivetÚ.

Precisely
spot on
hit the nail on the head

you cant legislate to cure bad parenting unless it involves locking up the parents and removing the children.


the maturity difference is soo vast that the 16 year old would have no desire for a 22 year old unless they have been molly coddled and repressed by the parents.

Varda
09-30-07, 08:14 AM
i lost my virginity at 22

Baron Max
09-30-07, 12:02 PM
i lost my virginity at 22

I'm so sorry for your loss. Are you still looking for it, or have you given up hope of ever finding it again? Was it covered by your homeowners insurance policy? :D

Baron Max

s0meguy
09-30-07, 12:27 PM
the maturity difference is soo vast that the 16 year old would have no desire for a 22 year old unless they have been molly coddled and repressed by the parents.

This makes no sense. I know that when I was 18, I was attracted to some women that were much older than me, such as about 25-28.

draqon
09-30-07, 01:12 PM
the maturity difference is soo vast that the 16 year old would have no desire for a 22 year old unless they have been molly coddled and repressed by the parents.

bullshit.

wanneszinnig
10-03-07, 02:51 PM
Hi. Long time reader, first time poster.

I found this in a fitness forum.

A guy, 22, wants to have sex with a girl who's 16. I'm the dad of a 1 year old daughter. I am worried about her enough as it is, but I cant think of how much I'd worry about this if this was my daughter. I'm angry about this guy doing this, am I right to be angry? What would you do if your daughter was in this situation?

(to make things equal, you can read the 22 year old guys side on his blog, *spammed link* )

You can't deny that a 16 year old girl is getting adult and wants to experiment with sex. If they both are ready to have sex, if they both want it and if it is an honest feeling...than I don't see what the problem realy is.
By keeping your daughter away from this phase in her life, you will create the oposite reaction. She will go look for herself and that might be more dangerous than when you have an open dialogue with her.
I also think that it is a matter of letting go and trust.