weebee you had no interest in tryng to help the child in the first place did you you were just shooting the breeze! with a percieved fellow religouse conformist sad! empathy and pro-activeness is a rare thing more so when worked with intellegence this thread degraded in to a pre-schoolers philosophy of i dont know but i like that one which one do you like i like that one oh i dont like that one but i like that one oh ok well i like that one two but i dont like that one which one do you think is best well i like both but i dont like that one why because sssshhhheeeeesssshhhhhh Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
ripleofdeath, If your not going to answer my question, I no longer beleive you have anything worth saying. Again the religious right do not believe in spanking religiously if you read the link I provided. Also I think the people here have been explaining why with great depth, and I don’t believe this thread has gotten childish at all.
WellCookedFetus pay no heed i just dispare at ignorance and idle gossip in the realm of pretence i have already learnt the lesson of not giving fuel to those who seek to gain reasons that they may disprove for ego reasurance and an excuse to not bother trying to evolve past the cave man intellect im just a little slow to learn as some others have already left the thread Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! if you seek truth then you will find it with an open mind not a closed book one of my own flaws could be considered to be perciving those who seek doors to want more than to use the wood to build a thicker wall around their mind you may call me a slow learner Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! groove on Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
I call you mental disabled since you just refuse to answer my question, is it that hard of a question to answer?
WellCookedFetus quote how would you solve this problem? --- to use most peoples logic if i knew the answer to that question i would already be rich and would be most unlikely not to be posting on this board or any other groove on Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
WellCookedFetus unfortunately the bigger issue lies in the heart of the parent many think it is there rite to be able to strike the child as they see fit SOO they do not seek an alternative and would not bother even if one was offered groove on Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
I see many alternative punishments and reinforcement tactics but so far there is not replacement for spanking as a last resort.
ripleofdeath; Too true words are air, No meaning but that given, Yet what is life; arms raised or redden faces If not meaning laden? The child was not mine, Standing on the street corner crying, Yet I smiled helped by memories pulling mother’s skirts. In this discussion I am the child, Raised years ago, Single, barren, my womb unused Yes I’m careful to point fingers. I am not my brother’s keep Unless he agrees to be mine, Till then I’ll raise philosophy In company with practicalities.
to know a story cut from cloth of silkin touch and stains washed off pure of that which holds a key to those who suffer endlesly as they call the faults and errs the chorus sings their ego-flares to cope with all as you might think is just as much of life to drink of all those calling another tune but see true virtue as flight to the moon you'll catch a glimpse as thoughts pass by as all consider and spectate by their own disfunction their own hobbled thought be weary of the trueth in memory the value can be naught to equate the cost to self and life is inviting others ego to smite your life so collect your thoughts collect your life discard the tales stained ego trails walk the path that calls your name and naught but you shall know the blame naught but you shall steer the course naught but you shall know the source groove on Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Taking rhyme in hand you waved off reason, Yet with mastery those words you did season And as my eyes wearily comb in early morn A flight to the moon seems fittingly born. A silent clap must yet be given, I can but not disagree in six’s or seven’s, Yet I must protest with tired yawns, This sea beaten patch has become my lawn, Not by drawing its windy course But by holding those I love close. Good night Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
I would say that spanking is just another form of punishment, and how effective it is depends on the child. Certainly, a parent should never smack a child in a moment of anger, but should wait until he/she has cooled down, and then administer the punishment in a controlled manner. Otherwise, the spanking will not be a punishment, but an emotional reaction of the parent, and the child will be nothing more than a punching bag.
i could not have said it better. Spanking is effective (thus should be used) under certain conditions. First, the child responds positively to it ( i did). Second, the parent administers spanking effectively, making sure they are in a calm state before and after spanking and the childs knows why they are being spanked.
I don't think there's anything wrong with spanking, but whether or not it's effective really depends on the child. If I ever have children, my first disciplinary tactic will be to tell them to cease and desist the undesirable behavior. If that doesn't work they will have a "time-out" (standing in a corner or sitting on their bed or whatever). If that doesn't work, it's butt-whipping time. Eventually, it will probably be easy to determine which form of punishment works best and I can just go straight to that. When I was a child, I actually preferred spankings to being grounded; the reasoning being that a spanking only lasted a few minutes, while being grounded lasted for days or even weeks. Since grounding proved to be the more effective punishment, my parents began using that. But I was a fairly well-behaved child, so I never got in too much trouble.
THe worst thing is that now in America, if your at a grocery, and your child is actin like an a-hole and you smack him, then alot of people will start thinking your a child beater and will sue you!
your child is actin like an a-hole and you smack him I would think an adult would know better than the child.
Maybe they sue you because they know something that you don't and that is that however bad the child is acting, you are acting worse, because you taught it to act like that by being such an excellent example. Try treating your child with respect once in a while.