Is Life a Dialogue or a Monologue?
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I'm such a selfish brain in a vat I couldn't care less.
That would be a monologue if each consciousness were a cell withing a single, all-encompassing consciousness.
We have not seen it demonstrated that that is the case. So far, my subjective experience has been of self and not-self rather than self and more self.
(PS I wish you'd put out that damn cigarette; it's making me salivate.)
DaveC426913
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Consciousness conversing with consciousness is still a dialogue between distinct entities.
I do not know what you are thinking unless you tell me. I cannot let you know what I'm thinking unless I tell you. That's a dialogue.
How can I even be sure you are conscious?
Can I suggest that awareness is the same in all, only our concepts ideas differ?
Smoking is my thing. If I can find cheese burger and fry image, I will change the image.
You can suggest it. So can revered dead philosophers. But you can't make the rest of us experience it.
Thank you. Smoking was my thing, and I still miss it. The cheeseburger, I can take or leave.
I'm not twisting any arms, just a random post for your consideration.
I've given up on the idea of quitting. The cheeseburger and fries are another favorite, so I can go with those too.
If a god created all and is everything as some believe...Then wouldn't it be this god that is having the ''monologue''. Believing in itself and not believing in itself at the same time?
I think that is the idea. A God at play with itself, experiencing itself as other.
Sounds like wishful thinking to me: We are God (yet acknowledging what bumbling fools we are). Doesn't make God look very appealing either.
If you are God, does anything in this world really matter? What's the consequence of an imperfect world for a perfect being? Does even death have any significance?
What about the converse? If things in this world DO matter, can we be God?
Why would God be a perfect being? If we are God and we are clearly not perfect, then God can not be perfect.
Extinction would be significant. It would be the death of God.
In an ever-changing world, what is it that lasts forever? Your life is a passing cloud, as is mine.
I suppose we would need look at your definition of perfection. If you could die and still exist, would that not be perfection.
It would be the death of mankind, but not God.
But why do you assume that the passing cloud doesn't "matter"?
If I can die at all, it isn't perfection. Death tends to be ugly.
If God "is" just our collective consciousness, how can He survive our extinction?
akoreamerican
Registered Senior Member
Perhaps the universe formed it's consciousness through the lifeforms it nurtures and now has a case of disassociative identity disorder with uncountable personalities
Because it is impermanent. Just like everything else in this world, they come and go. How many of your ancestors do you remember?
Death is the natural conclusion to life.
We would have to conclude that that aspect of ourselves is omnipresent, despite the worldly experience. In other words, God exists regardless of humanity. We are simply an expression.