Is Life a Dialogue or a Monologue?

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  1. Bowser Life is Fatal. Valued Senior Member

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    Curious thing that it is the same in all living things. Kind of miraculous, in fact.
     
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  3. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    It's part of the self-assembly function. Each particle determines the behavior of adjacent particles, i.e. "attraction" or "repulsion"
     
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  5. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    On the contrary, it makes spontaneous origins much more acceptable. The simpler the beginning the more it answers to Occam's razor.
    Oddly these 17 particles actually end up to produce three fundamental constituents of all matter;
    electron, proton, neutron.
    Each having specific mathematical values and potentials. Which tends to argue for natural selection and evolution rather than Intelligent Design, which assumes a pre-existing incalculable complexity (God), rather than a natural state of origin, i.e. Chaos. A handful of deterministic equations (constants), producing a self-ordering impetus, an extension of the fundamental law of "movement in the direction of greatest satisfaction". Pattern forming.

    This is the power of pure deterministic Logic over sentiently motivated Miracles. IMO...

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  7. Bowser Life is Fatal. Valued Senior Member

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    Well, how should I argue with that?

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  8. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    I believe a compromise can be reached by agreeing to call the causal force as being of an implacable mathematical pseudo-intelligence, which functions in accordance to a time related probabilistic progression.

    The soul of this non-personal entity is of a natural mathematical nature, aka. Potential.

    We could agree to fashion a final satisfactory equation; Potential = God, God = Potential.

    Potential; That which may become reality. Function; pseudo-intelligence.
    God; That which may become reality. Function; pseudo-intelligence.
     
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  9. akoreamerican Registered Senior Member

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    I doubt any domestic animal has much time to ponder about their existence. They have other things on their mind like I wonder what other strange rules these humans have that I might be breaking now, but who knows what a wolf or a lion is thinking on their down time.
     
  10. Bowser Life is Fatal. Valued Senior Member

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    They are busy being animals, which is why we love them so much. The funny thing is, each has his own personality, just like people.

    I've recently thought about going vegan, but I'm not certain the best way to supplement a diet without meat. I do love my burgers...
    https://killerburger.com/menu/
     
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  11. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    War Of The Diaries

    The Dog’s Diary:
    8:00 am - Dog food! My favorite thing!
    9:30 am - A car ride! My favorite thing!
    9:40 am - A walk in the park! My favorite thing!
    10:30 am - Got rubbed and petted! My favorite thing!
    12:00 pm - Milk bones! My favorite thing!
    1:00 pm - Played in the yard! My favorite thing!
    3:00 pm - Wagged my tail! My favorite thing!
    5:00 pm - Dinner! My favorite thing!
    7:00 pm - Got to play ball! My favorite thing!
    8:00 pm - Wow! Watched TV with the people! My favorite thing!
    11:00 pm - Sleeping on the bed! My favorite thing!

    The Cat’s Diary:
    Day 983 of My Captivity
    My captors continue to taunt me with bizarre little dangling objects. They dine lavishly on fresh meat, while the other inmates and I are fed hash or some sort of dry nuggets. Although I make my contempt for the rations perfectly clear, I nevertheless must eat something in order to keep up my strength.

    The only thing that keeps me going is my dream of escape. In an attempt to disgust them, I once again vomit on the carpet. Today I decapitated a mouse and dropped its headless body at their feet. I had hoped this would strike fear into their hearts, since it clearly demonstrates my capabilities. However, they merely made condescending comments about what a “good little hunter” I am. Bastards!

    There was some sort of assembly of their accomplices tonight. I was placed in solitary confinement for the duration of the event. However, I could hear the noises and smell the food. I overheard that my confinement was due to the power of “allergies.” I must learn what this means, and how to use it to my advantage.

    Today I was almost successful in an attempt to assassinate one of my tormentors by weaving around his feet as he was walking. I must try this again tomorrow, but at the top of the stairs.

    I am convinced that the other prisoners here are flunkies and snitches. The dog receives special privileges. He is regularly released, and seems to be more than willing to return. He is obviously retarded. The bird must be an informant. I observe him communicate with the guards regularly. I am certain that he reports my every move. My captors have arranged protective custody for him in an elevated cell, so he is safe. For now ...

     
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  12. akoreamerican Registered Senior Member

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    The dog seems well adjusted and the cat has trust issues. This mirrors my last relationship :0
     
  13. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    We might be very surprised. Evolution has not stood still for any species extant today. Each has its own area of specialization.
    But an innate ability for counting has been observed in many species. As have displays of affection.
    How many species do we know that continue to care for offspring after birth? How many species "learn from observation"? I'm sure the same fundamental drivers are present in all these species, including humans.
     
  14. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Each species harbors a mirror neural network which interprets external sensory input peculiar to that species, but more often than not "mirrors" all the other networks in function itself.

    Dogs are almost all "pack" animals. Cats are primarily "solitary hunters", but lions hunt in well coordinated packs also, as required for predators living on the plains. Abilities are directly related to the environment and survival skills. Evolution by natural selection.
     
  15. akoreamerican Registered Senior Member

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    Let us all polish our mirrors.

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  16. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    What does "imperfection" even mean?
     
  17. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Symmetry breaking ?
     
  18. Bowser Life is Fatal. Valued Senior Member

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    "Imperfection is beauty, madness is genius and it's better to be absolutely ridiculous than absolutely boring."
    --Marilyn Monroe
     
  19. Bowser Life is Fatal. Valued Senior Member

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    And the diversity we see in people, are we pack animals or solitary hunters?
     
  20. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Definitely pack or herd animal. One may even say hive animal. Our cities are proof.
    There are exceptions of course.
     
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  21. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    I'm a big fan of Marilyn Monroe too but that doesn't answer the question. What IS imperfection, such that it gives our world motion and enables our existence?
     
  22. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Symmetry breaking (dynamic imbalance)
     
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  23. sweetpea Valued Senior Member

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    Bowser, two quotes from you in other threads... When asked ''what is God'' your reply was:
    Check that quote out for yourself.
    So, when you ask me here on this present thread :
    According to you, we are your god. So, wouldn't that be, ''Do I god love or hate myself?''
    Remember everything according to you is your god.
     
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