Some people are unreachable. I should probably just leave this thread in its current, sorry state and move on. Against my better judgment, I'll have one more crack at it. --- paddoboy: Let me congratulate you. You've just given a masterclass in avoidance and misdirection and diversion. Fortunately for me, I'm very well acquainted with tactics such as yours. To that end, I will spend this first post illustrating exactly where and how you have tried to avoid answering most of the important direct questions I put to you. Your proclamation, in the course of this little display, that honesty is the best policy, is quite a shameless act of bravado on your part, given the hypocrisy involved. But then again, if you realised why you ought to feel ashamed you wouldn't still be here posting as you are. So, let's start... This is not an answer to the question I asked. In other words, you couldn't find a single thing that was "dumb" in my posts prior to the one you're responding to here. Ergo, your prior assertion that I posted something "dumb" was just bile on your part. Instead of elaborating on what an "extreme and utterly crazy" view on ANZAC day would be, you opt to make another personal attack on me. Luckily, I'm smart enough to glean from your later responses what an honest answer from you would have been on this. More on that in a following post. My question here was a simple yes/no question, but you couldn't even bring yourself to attempt to answer it. Again, honest, straightforward questions from me, and avoidance and attempt to divert using personal insult by you. My questions, you will recall, were in direct response to a claim made by you in a previous post. I quoted you. Again, a simple yes/no question about your opinons about ABC staff, and you fail to answer it. Then, a question asking whether you think the decision was wrong and ought to be reversed, and - guess what? - you fail to answer it. To top it off, you then go on to ask yourself a similar question "Should it have been banned?", and - surprise surprise! - you can't even bring yourself to answer your own question! Astonishing. Or at least, it would be if honesty really was the best policy for paddoboy. This is almost an honest answer to the question "Did you intend to offend?" Hidden in there is the implied answer "yes". Just thought I'd mention this in passing. Avoidance. You do not commit to expressing your own view on whether the song is racist or not. The best you can manage is to indicate your awareness that some other people consider it racist. My impression from this is that you don't think it is racist, but there's no way to be sure from this non-answer of yours. Once again, you are unable to answer a simple question honestly. This time you try to divert attention onto me again, as an excuse to avoid addressing the question I put to you. I asked you explicitly about black face on TV. You chose instead to talk about generic racism. There's no way to tell from your response whether you think that black face performances by white people are racist or not, and you haven't answered the question as to whether you think such things should be shown as entertainment on TV. It's all well and good to claim that you don't defend racism, but the devil is in the detail. It depends on what you, paddoboy, consider racist, and you give us no hints about that when you avoid addressing the specific example that was put to you. --- As you will see, readers, once we take out paddoboy's avoidance and diversion, there's not a lot of content left to discuss. That will be my next post.