Email password cracking

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  1. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    You have that right as the Legal Guardian of your children up until they reach Adulthood (Where they take on the responsibilities of their own life)
     
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  3. Ripley Valued Senior Member

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    Easier said than done, believe me. This isn't as simple a matter as, say, snooping on a member's IP address to figure out where they're posting from, is it?
     
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  5. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    as long as I'm a guardian, right? Let's say my child has Down Syndrom or my parent has dementia. I could look then?
     
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  7. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Practically speaking, many employers use key loggers to keep track of what their employees are doing, to investigate fraud etc. Government agencies like the FBI can use it legally on anyone. So there isn't really much privacy.

    Legally speaking, its only relevant if you want to use it in court proceedings as evidence or if the other party sues you.
     
  8. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    Yes you should be able to if you are their Guardian, after all the notion of Guardian is you are doing what is in the best interest for them. Although the question there is why you would want to look? I mean with children in general it's a good idea to know who they are sending emails to and what people they are talking to online because of the number of occurrences of sex-offenders claiming to be people they aren't and the number of teenagers that go of to visit them unaware of them being wolves in sheeps (lambs) clothing.

    This is the main reason why there are so many parental control features for computers, consoles and television decoders. However the main problem is the parents aren't usually educated in how to use the parental controls and usually as their teenagers to program them, which in turn pretty much undermines the point of the control in the first place.
     
  9. shorty_37 Go! Canada Go! Registered Senior Member

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    LOL!! GUM

    Sonic good luck to you. I think you did the right thing( in checking him out and finding out the truth).As far as your punishment for him, that is YOUR business. You owned the computer, your parents bought the house. He has ALOT more to lose now including you. Let him ride off into the sunset with his little whore, see how long that lasts!

    Take Care, and try and relax, you are probably young and have ALOT of time to find the right guy.

    Anybody taking the side of this prick, because his privacy was invaded is just fuked!! Just ignore them!
     
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  10. shorty_37 Go! Canada Go! Registered Senior Member

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    Of course she wasn't just going to dump him, too much time and feelings invested. I think alot of the people riding her ass in her thread have NEVER been in her situation. They have all this great advice, as an outsider with nothing invested in it. As you said about your sisters, they don't listen, probably because they see things differently because they are emotionally attached.

    I feel really bad for her. I have never been in this situation myself. If it was me though there would be hell to pay before I moved on.
     
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  11. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    practically speaking, the computer administrator can see exactly what I am doing with my computer I think.
     
  12. Anti-Flag Pun intended Registered Senior Member

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    Wow now they've both done something wrong, so much for the attitude of being the better person.

    Lets be honest here, if she'd have been wrong you'd still have said she did the right thing. So the majority attitude hardly has any regards for ends and means does it?

    Basically it comes down to forget ends and means, given any subjective suspicion anything goes. Guess that's why we invaded Iraq right?
    God Bless America!
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  13. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Not every keystroke
     
  14. mikenostic Stop pretending you're smart! Registered Senior Member

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    I'm going to agree, but only because the computer and the house belongs to her. At first I didn't realize the computer belonged to her or else I would have suggested that first. I don't consider that snooping. I consider that 'he should have covered his tracks better if he was going to do some vile shit like that on her computer'.
    However, I am still against snooping and invading someone's privacy (i.e. if it was his house and his computer). And I'm still against her looking at his phone, even if it was pin protected.

    If it's as much of a PITA to find the right guy as it is the right girl, which it is, she's going to need a lot of time. Even moreso now because now she's going to have her guard up even more.

    I can take her side, but still say that she invaded his privacy where his phone is concerned; the computer, not so much.

    Sonic,
    You have my condolences. It sucks that you found out this way, and it sucks even more that he would be doing shit like that. He deserves what he gets. Jackasses like that are the reason that good guys like myself have such a hard time with women.

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    Those guys screw women over, then automatically assume that I'll do the same, and keep their guard up.

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    I'm also glad you kept the snooping to a reasonable level.
    What's the latest from him, his family, your family? What have they got to say about it?
     
  15. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    what if it was mail that came through the post office? His mail but her mailbox attached to her house?
     
  16. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    Does it matter when I am browsing porn sites?

    Or if I am reading Dilbert?
     
  17. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    In the US you can't open someone's mail. Don't know in the UK.
     
  18. mikenostic Stop pretending you're smart! Registered Senior Member

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    If it's addressed to him, then it's a federal offense to open his mail.
    Find me the law where it says it's a federal offense to install a key logger program on your OWN PC.

    But with that said, I'd like to know more details of what she 'logged' and how it was logged, before I make any further judgments.

    I also think that if the key logger merely logged keystrokes, and not actually 'hacked' into his email, then I see nothing wrong with that.
     
  19. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Shut up, you vagrant idiot. Your comments have bugger all to do with anything; moreover, it comes as no surprise that those who were wrong continue to defend their actions regardless of the outcome, which was obvious. The only reason sonic didnt' regard it as a foregone conclusion was because she hoped.

    She did the right thing to check, now sod off and keep quiet if you have nothing positive to add. Iraq, indeed. Twit.
     
  20. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    I already posted a link about a civil suit where the court ruled it illegal for a woman to use spyware on her home computer to access her husbands messages and stuff for evidence of an affair.

    Personally, I think a persons email or IM is equivalent to their mail. I never read anyones email even if they leave it open on the computer. I hope they won't read mine if I do it. I don't look through people's bags because I expect they won't look through mine, nor do I go through their notes and lab notebooks because I hope they will reciprocate. I find it disturbing that so many people think its alright to do as they please with other people's stuff.
     
  21. shorty_37 Go! Canada Go! Registered Senior Member

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  23. mikenostic Stop pretending you're smart! Registered Senior Member

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    I can see something like that happening. I'd still like to know more details about the way sonic's key logger works. If it just logs in keystrokes blindly, I don't see the problem there. But if it actually hacks into someone's email account, then that's something different entirely. I need to go back and read her explanation.
     
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