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Cactus Jack
05-18-02, 09:14 PM
Allright, in good metaphor/philosophical terms what - from personal experience - does love feel like?

For me, its every moment your mind has free time your thinking about the person. You don't see her for a day you're missing her, and even when you do see her dring the day it always seems like it wasn't enough time spent together. You burn for physical contact, I can't believe shes real, something so beautiful can't be real. You burn for return feelings, for discussion, for interaction. And most imprtantly shes perfect, not as in some impossible to fill ideal created by man, but in your standards, and as a human shes perfect. Also shes so beautiful its like looking at the stars, you can make a second last an eternity. And you never get sick of being with her.

Oh, well.......... :(

What about you guys?

Squid Vicious
05-18-02, 11:00 PM
Don't worry cactus, that feeling wil pass and you'll begin to think again ;) :p

Tyler
05-18-02, 11:17 PM
Not wanting to leave her side. Spending the time away from her only thinking about her. When you wake up and are in pain because you don't have her. When you could spend hours just holding her, and not doing anything else.

That was what kicked me the first time. When I was very happy to just hold her for a few hours. That was a new experience for me.

Asguard
05-19-02, 02:02 AM
I agree

when there is nothing you want to do but hold her and kiss her that is love

when you don't want to leave her (even if you have to) and miss her as soon as she gets on the train thats love

Adam
05-19-02, 05:48 AM
Like warm apple pie...

Xev
05-19-02, 12:00 PM
Adamski! ;)

I think Cactus' description is the closest.

Love? When your heart beats a little faster when you see him. When his voice is enough to send a small shiver of what is called 'electricity'* down your spine. When his presence - well, you get the idea. Describing love physiologically is rather difficult.

It is one thing when his presence can do this, and quite another when his ideas do. The combination of the physical sensation and the - how do I put this? - intellectual sensation, that is love.

You'll get over it, Cactus. You want devotion? Get a dog, I recommend a German Shepard or Golden Retriever.

*What the hell is that, anyway?

Pollux V
05-19-02, 12:40 PM
Cactus you seem to have the whole concept down, no one can really tell you that you're in love unless you know yourself. The feeling is generally the same, I'm without it right now but I don't really mind. Just have to keep my eyes peeled....


When his voice is enough to send a small shiver of what is called 'electricity'* down your spine.

Xev have we met before?

Hahaha just kidding.

Cactus Jack
05-19-02, 02:03 PM
I think this quote from the Matrix describes the knowing for yourself thing the best:

"Being the one is like being in Love, you just know it from balls to bones."

orthogonal
05-19-02, 03:13 PM
It's the other way-around with me. When I see or hear something beautiful, I tend see it in the context of her, that is, the metaphors flow the other way...

Glenn Gould perfoming a passage from one of Bach's Goldberg Variations is interpreted through my memory of lying on my back on a summer morning with her head on my chest. I'm still half-asleep but I hear her softly echoing a morning dove down in the garden.

Occasionally when I visualize a curve in mathematics, my mind drifts, and I'm thinking of the curve I feel as my hand runs across the small of her back. I suspect another man might see as much in the shape of a yacht's hull, or in the flow of a stream. There are countless examples, for all aesthetic beauty is derived from this singular feminine curve. This is the source.

There used to be a sculpture of Venus in the Montreal Museum of Fine Arts that I particularly enjoyed. This Venus had nearly the same pleased little smile that greeted me at the door, one day soon after I was married. My wide had baked her first loaf of bread and was excited that I should try a piece. I remember the look on her face at that moment twenty years ago, better than if I'd taken a photograph of her.

Most everything of pure beauty I enjoy in this world seems to be related to her.

Michael

Pollux V
05-19-02, 03:15 PM
Ortho,

Are you having better luck with this love thing than the rest of us?

TruthSeeker
05-25-02, 12:16 PM
Allright, in good metaphor/philosophical terms what - from personal experience - does love feel like?

Peace

When I lose my peace I know that my Love is fading out and my desire and need are coming up. I do my best to stay in Love...

Tyler
05-25-02, 09:56 PM
I don't think peace sums it up. Nelson, correct me if I'm wrong but I was pretty sure you hadn't had a girlfriend let alone experienced love in the way we're discussing. Peace is more of an artsy-fartsy kind of bad metaphore for it.

TruthSeeker
05-25-02, 10:32 PM
Tyler,

I had a girlfriend... and I'll tell you my experience.

Before I went out with her, I really Loved her. I missed her, but not enough to lose my inner peace. I was having fun and enjoying life with her. The problem came when I began to go out with her. I tasted the sweet honey of a girl's lip and fell in despair whenever she wasn't with me - she became an addiction. I couldn't have fun anymore when I was alone, and whenever she was with me, I wanted to stay with her and don't let her go. She started feeling umcomfortable with the situation and broke with me. It was really painful - I had lost my Love.

You see. My Love turned into love. My joy and simplicity were transformed into an addiction, a need. That's why people say that love hurts. It doesn't. Love is very peaceful. Love creates peace. Why do you want to go out with someone? To be fulfilled by the other person? To discount all your problems in the other person? Or it is simply to have fun? I don't know about you... but everything I want is to have fun and to be happy. :)

You see... people transform Love into an addiction (and sometimes it's addiction since the beginning) and this creates suffering. If, for example, a guy want to stay with a girl that is addicted to him, he can control her. She becomes his pet. She does everything he wants because if she doesn't, the guy won't give her "love" and she suffers. She is addicted to him. He abuses her. Who is to blame? Anyone. She wants that, he wants that and that's it. Not very pleasant, but many people are like this. That's NOT Love. Love is self-fulfilling. You don't NEED other person neither other person NEEDS you. You just want to have fun. If there is a need/attachement, you don't Love each other, you just want to be with the other to satisfy YOUR "NEED"... what is very selfish...

People know love...
But don't know Love...

love creates suffering and addiction...
Love creates inner peace and happiness...
:)

Love,
Nelson

Cactus Jack
05-26-02, 08:36 AM
I have to admit that's admirable, a guy whos so into the subject of Love he has two meanings for it: Non-capitalized and Capitalized.

I know what you mean though, love (note capitalization) is painful, because once its gone it is just like going cold turkey from an addiction. It feels as if it's been ripped from you. I think people get addicted physicaly to the reactions in the brain cause by love and commitment. They also get addicted physcologicaly too.

I have a question I'm pondering Nelson, can one feel love and Love toward another human being?

Asguard
05-26-02, 09:32 AM
i don't know if its possable to describe love but i know i have it

she is mine again

YAYAYYAYAYAYAYYAYAYAYYAY

TruthSeeker
05-26-02, 11:59 AM
Cactus,


I have a question I'm pondering Nelson, can one feel love and Love toward another human being?

At the same time? No.
One at a time? Yes.

You can Love someone and than transform it in love when the relationship become more intimate and physical, creating a dependence (that's what happened with me... :( ).

The other way around I don't know because I've never experienced it... Probably, if someone has an awareness of the difference between Love and love, and go out with some that loves him or her, the person can make the other aware of the problem and transform love into Love. That's a possibility.

There's two big differences between Love and love:
Love is impersonal (to everyone), love is personal (to someone in specific).
Love never hurts, love always hurts.

Love :)
Nelson

Tyler
05-26-02, 12:01 PM
I think I'm too young to say this myself, but I'll throw it forward for someone more experienced to chime in. Nelson, Cactus, most of us are throwing around the term 'love' too easily here. A strong attraction does not mean 'love'. If you've only had a few experiences, 'love' is easy to assign to the best one. In my personal experiences, I know I have given the term 'love' in my head to things that were just strong attractions. 'likes' for lack of better word.

Cactus Jack
05-26-02, 04:26 PM
I guess you're right Nelson, it's been bugging me.

Tyler we aren't really throwing the word love around maybe Love but love happens a lot I believe. And I know what you mean, but I am in Love currently and this is the only time I've ever been, I've described it here too.

Bebelina
05-26-02, 06:15 PM
Love is to be in harmony with oneself and all that is. To see no boundaries between I and other.
To just be. :)

Now, gaze into the banner, gaze..gaze...let go of control..gaze....trust...gaze....obey....gaze...ob ey...obey...obey....:eek:

Tyler
05-26-02, 06:33 PM
Turn off your mind, relax and float down stream,
It is not dying, it is not dying
Lay down all thoughts, surrender to the void,
It is shining, it is shining.
Yet you may see the meaning of within
It is being, it is being
Love is all and love is everyone
It is knowing, it is knowing
And ignorance and hate mourn the dead
It is believing, it is believing
But listen to the colour of your dreams
It is not leaving, it is not leaving
So play the game "Existence" to the end
Of the beginning, of the beginning



"Tyler we aren't really throwing the word love around maybe Love but love happens a lot I believe. And I know what you mean, but I am in Love currently and this is the only time I've ever been, I've described it here too."

You're getting confued with Nelson's mumbo-jumbo definitions. Love is a state of accepting and inner peace with nature and the world (correct me if I'm wrong, Nelson). The other love (which I will talk about. As Love is a concept Nelson has developed/made up) is not something that happens a lot. I can tell you that personally, love is a step above the kind of thing we feel for someone 90% of the time. It's a little frightening and a lot amazing, but it doesn't happen that frequently. And at our age, jarrod, you will find tons of people who say they are 'in love' with a boyfriend/girlfriend (generally, it will be a girl saying it about a guy. most guys won't use that term around other men) when it's nowhere near that level.

Cactus Jack
05-26-02, 07:58 PM
ok Tyler, thanx for clarification.

ndrs
05-26-02, 10:31 PM
Here is a question for the more experienced: Do you think that love has something to do with respect? Can love exist without respect for the other person?
How many people do you think respect their "loves" - respect their thoughts, personality, individuality etc.?

Also:
Don't you think love is based on sexual attraction?
Although you can hear of people loving their best friends...
What is sexual love different from the love to your (original) family members?

One more thing about love: Love makes you weak - at least weak to another person. You are more prone to lies and deception.. I wouldn't like get to Freudian here, but maybe the attraction kind of love that TruthSeeker proposed is related to mother/father love. You expected your parents to protect you when you were an infant - you were allowed to be weak. To be weak is easy, our laziness instict certainly prefers it... Maybe that is why we long for love so much. (Just theorizing)
I had a similar feeling to Truthseeker late love.. That is surely terrible, I wasn't able to have fun at all.. I recently "recovered" :) I feel like I was dead for the last 3 months.
I doubt if I have loved her at all - I didn't knew her that well. Surely love has to be something more than just sexual attraction.

I would say my ideal kind of love: not necesseraly wanting to be with another person, but another person being your reason to live, your motivation, your ideal (?). Still that seems just an excuse for being weak.. :(

Another question: What would your love be based on?

TruthSeeker
05-27-02, 12:09 AM
Tyler,


A strong attraction does not mean 'love'.

Love- peaceful attraction
love- strong attraction
...
As I said, Love creates peace, while love destroys it...:bugeye:

Bebelina gave a great definition... :)

And you know when you Love someone when you like to just be with that person, without any attachment...


Love is a state of accepting and inner peace with nature and the world

Right... so what's your point?


The other love (which I will talk about. As Love is a concept Nelson has developed/made up) is not something that happens a lot.

Right...


And at our age, jarrod, you will find tons of people who say they are 'in love' with a boyfriend/girlfriend (generally, it will be a girl saying it about a guy. most guys won't use that term around other men) when it's nowhere near that level.

Yes... so what's wrong...?


ndrs,


Do you think that love has something to do with respect? Can love exist without respect for the other person?
How many people do you think respect their "loves" - respect their thoughts, personality, individuality etc.?


Love begins with the respect and Love of yourself. If you don't respect yourself, anyone else will. But, yes, Love has lots to do with respect. love can exist without respect but Love can't. It's not very common to respect their thoughts, personality, etc... that's love. Love can't exist withou respect.


Don't you think love is based on sexual attraction?

love sometimes is. Love is pure. You don't Love only a boyfriend/girlfriend. Love is impersional. It's easy to distinguish Love from love, just look to your pet (if you have one). How do you Love your pet? Do you respect your pet? Do you Love it unconditionally? Most people do... eventhough some can't even Love their own pets... :(

In Love there's no sexual attraction in the sense we know. There's sexual interaction but there's no attachment/need.


What is sexual love different from the love to your (original) family members?

You don't know the difference...? :D:eek:


Love makes you weak - at least weak to another person.
love does. Love doesn't. love is based on needs. The strongest provide the "drug", the weakest uses it and is submissed to the strongest. The strong control the weak. In ths sense there is weakness, but this weakeness begin with your low self-esteem. That's why important to Love yourself, because then, you won't accept being abused by another person.

Sometimes both are very strong and each one tries to control the other. The result is a war of control.

In a Love relationship both are strong and grow together. Each one controls his/her own part. They only want to have fun, that's all. They don't need each other. They are together just to have fun. :)


I wouldn't like get to Freudian here, but maybe the attraction kind of love that TruthSeeker proposed is related to mother/father love.

This IS this kind of Love... :)
But we want to Love everyone on this way! :)
And it's not attraction, it just IS...


I would say my ideal kind of love: not necesseraly wanting to be with another person, but another person being your reason to live, your motivation, your ideal (?). Still that seems just an excuse for being weak..

No. That's very attached. You can't depend on another person unless you want to suffer...


Another question: What would your love be based on?
Self-acception.

Love,
Nelson

FoxMulder
05-27-02, 02:14 AM
Like warm apple pie...

That is NOT love, Adam! That is mere physical pleasure! That is a demonic snare!

That goes for all of you!

Adam
05-27-02, 02:17 AM
FoxMulder, dude, you really need to get laid. I suggest you go find this "vampire" girl of yours, Zoe, and just get your brains shagged out for a few days. Guaranteed to cure all.

FoxMulder
05-27-02, 02:25 AM
FoxMulder, dude, you really need to get laid. I suggest you go find this "vampire" girl of yours, Zoe, and just get your brains shagged out for a few days. Guaranteed to cure all.

Zoe tried to kill me the last time we met. :(

Asguard
05-27-02, 02:27 AM
whats life with no risk:D

and handcuffs are SO much fun:D

Xev
05-27-02, 02:30 AM
"That is NOT love, Adam! That is mere physical pleasure! That is a demonic snare! "

Please, dear Cthulhu, don't tell me that he'll be saying that apple pie is demonic now....:rolleyes:

"Zoe tried to kill me the last time we met. :( "

Sorry dude. That really sucks.

All:

I've defined 'love'. If a person makes me feel the way this car does, that is love.

Romantic love, at least.

FoxMulder
05-27-02, 02:36 AM
Asguard:

and handcuffs are SO much fun

I wouldn't know anything about that.

Xev:

Please, dear Cthulhu, don't tell me that he'll be saying that apple pie is demonic now....

Apple pie IS demonic, when used for that purpose!


Sorry dude. That really sucks.

It seems like every time I meet a nice girl, "They" get in the way.


I've defined 'love'. If a person makes me feel the way this car does, that is love.

Love is not a car, Xev.

Xev
05-27-02, 02:41 AM
Foxy: "I wouldn't know anything about that. "

Really? You go on about 'demonic bondage' so much, I had figured....

"Apple pie IS demonic, when used for that purpose!"

Oh no. First pizza, now apple pie, IS ANYTHING SAFE?! Oh the horror!

"It seems like every time I meet a nice girl, "They" get in the way."

Damn, I know the feeling. Every time I meet a man, he's either gay, married, or posessed by evil demons.

"Love is not a car, Xev."

Miatas are groovy. Way superior to love.

FoxMulder
05-27-02, 02:46 AM
Oh no. First pizza, now apple pie, IS ANYTHING SAFE?! Oh the horror!

Demon pizza is evil. Demon pie is evil. Demons are evil.


Damn, I know the feeling. Every time I meet a man, he's either gay, married, or posessed by evil demons.

I know.


Miatas are groovy. Way superior to love.

Cars are just physical things.

Xev
05-27-02, 02:54 AM
"Demon pizza is evil. Demon pie is evil. Demons are evil."

Made with real, Michigan demon apples?

Whatever. I'm going to bed.

"I know. "

Life sucks, don't it?

"Cars are just physical things."

So is love. Just the release of neurochemicals.

Cars last longer, and they don't do weird, emotional things. Your car may break down, but it will never sleep with your best friend. ;)

I feel the same way about computers. Okay, so if a man or woman makes you feel the way this Cray (http://www.ncep.noaa.gov/NCO/NCCF/NCEP-HPC/img004.jpg) does, you know you are in love.

FoxMulder
05-27-02, 03:15 AM
Xev:

Made with real, Michigan demon apples?

Does it really matter what state they are from?


Life sucks, don't it?

Not really. Life is good with Jesus!


Cars last longer, and they don't do weird, emotional things. Your car may break down, but it will never sleep with your best friend.
I feel the same way about computers. Okay, so if a man or woman makes you feel the way this Cray does, you know you are in love.

That is a very nice computer. Some day I will have to tell you about the development of the Cray, and how Microsoft is controlled by evil forces.

Do you think it is a coincidence that, when you put 'Bill Gates' into ASCII, it comes out '666'?

Do you think it is a coincidence that 'Windows 95' comes out '666'?

Do you think it is a coincidence that the Bible predicts that the Beast will control the world? And Microsoft is monopolizing the software industry! Look how everything must be 'Windows compatable'!

Do you have excel 95? Do this:

Open a new file
Scroll down to row 95
Click on the row 95 button to highlight the entire row
Press tab to move to the second column
Now, move your mouse and click on help at the top
Then click on "about Microsoft excel"
Press ctrl-alt-shift and click on the tech support button at the same time.

A window will appear with the title - THE HALL OF TORTURED SOULS.

This is real! Many people have done it!

Bebelina
05-27-02, 08:39 AM
I see we have expanded the menu from only Demon Pizza to Demon Apple Pie. :D
May you should invest in the restaurant business Fox? :D

Xev
05-27-02, 09:01 AM
"Does it really matter what state they are from?"

*Shrugs*

Michigan grows the best apples, and I live in Michigan.

"Not really. Life is good with Jesus!"

Not really. I still rue the day I invited him to crash on my couch.

"That is a very nice computer. Some day I will have to tell you about the development of the Cray, and how Microsoft is controlled by evil forces."

YES! Finally, we agree on somthing! M$ is evil.

So, tell us, is Internet Exploiter the result of demons? Is Windoze satanic?

Bebelina, don't go encouraging him, now. He'll start ranting about "demon jelly doughnuts" or somthing. :)

I'm hungry now. Damn you Fox!

Cactus Jack
05-27-02, 10:58 AM
Sorry to interupt, but I have a question that was posed on another thread (or was it this one?). Can a person that absolutely hates themself love another? I feel the answer is yes, a person that personifies self-hatred can more easily give all of themself in love for another and could better appreciate that person being in their life than others could.

P.S. - This is kinda about me, but I've sorted things out with myself as of late, I wouldn't sat I personify it any more :)

TruthSeeker
05-27-02, 02:04 PM
FoxMulder, dude, you really need to get laid. I suggest you go find this "vampire" girl of yours, Zoe, and just get your brains shagged out for a few days. Guaranteed to cure all.

I will complement...
Even Zeus spent three days shagging with Alcmena... :D:D:D:D

Cactus,


Can a person that absolutely hates themself love another?
No. It's impossible. You need first to Love yourself. That's because the other is a mirror of you. When you are with other person, the other person mirrors you. So, if you hate yourself, it will be very hard to be with someone...

Btw... thanks for bringing the subject back. I'm getting sick with this subject about Demon Pizza and Demon Apple Pie... :p

Love,
Nelson

Cactus Jack
05-27-02, 02:13 PM
Allright, I'm kinda having difficulty understanding this Nelson. Could you clarify in some other way?

Tyler
05-27-02, 02:21 PM
"I will complement...
Even Zeus spent three days shagging with Alcmena... "

Nelson's pickin' up the lingo.


"So, if you hate yourself, it will be very hard to be with someone..."

Nelsons right (oh my god.....did I just say that?), but he didnt answer your question. It is indeed damn near impossible to be involved with someone when you hate yourself. But you can definetly fall in love.

Xev
05-27-02, 02:24 PM
"I will complement...
Even Zeus spent three days shagging with Alcmena... "

*Breaks out a bottle of champagne*

Nelson! Congratulations! :D

"No. It's impossible. You need first to Love yourself. That's because the other is a mirror of you. When you are with other person, the other person mirrors you. So, if you hate yourself, it will be very hard to be with someone..."

Disagree. You hate yourself, your love for the other is more intense.

"Btw... thanks for bringing the subject back. I'm getting sick with this subject about Demon Pizza and Demon Apple Pie..."

Don't forget demonic bondage, vampires and athiestic sluts! :p

TruthSeeker
05-27-02, 02:36 PM
Cactus,


Allright, I'm kinda having difficulty understanding this Nelson. Could you clarify in some other way?

Yep. If you enter in a relationship with a low self-esteem, not valorizing yourself, the other person will not valorize yourself either. It's even hard to be attracted by someone that is always complaining and hating him/herself. WHat do yuo feel? Do you prefer to be with someone that Loves life and Loves herself or you prefer to be with someone that is always complaining and hating? If you have low self-esteem it is even possible... But than, you will be entering in an abusive relationship.

When you Love yourself and you are joyful it is easy for other people to Love you. ;)

Love,
Nelson

Cactus Jack
05-27-02, 02:43 PM
Oh..... I see you didn't understand the question dude. I meant can a person that hates them self give/be in love, not that the other person had to love them back........see what I mean?

Tyler
05-27-02, 03:01 PM
Like I said, it is possible to love someone, just not be in a good relationship.

Cactus Jack
05-27-02, 03:07 PM
Yeah, I completely agree. The question was is it possible for the person to love someone, I believe the answer is a deffinet yes and maybe even more so then an ordinary person. Nelson just misundertsood the question.

But yeah it is impossible to have a relationship when you have said mindset, women are not attracted to you and further if they were once they start having a relationship with you it will end rather quickly once they realize how you feel about yourself........I'm trying to dig myself out of this pit......but............Its very very hard.

Tyler
05-27-02, 03:14 PM
You'll get out of it. Dont worry man, it all comes out eventually. Do you play guitar? Or have a sport that you can play to take your mind off of the world? Find something, anything, that makes you completely forget the world. I highly, highly advise hockey. I love it, going down to a shinny rink and sitting on the bench waiting to get on. Every time I touch the puck pretending to be one of my favourite players, trying out new stuff. It's like a dream when I'm there. Anyway, perhaps this isn't good advise in Spring!

If you play guitar, start a band. Play cover songs at first. If you start off by writing your own shit you'll find yourself soon wallowing in your own emotions. Not advisable.

Oh, and try a psychadelic drug.

Cactus Jack
05-27-02, 03:18 PM
"Do you play guitar? Or have a sport that you can play to take your mind off of the world?"

Dude, have you ever felt this: Whenever I'm wrestling or doing martial arts or doing comedy or when I'm playin guitar and doing really well its just like you feel nothing. Its like you are nothing for maybe five minutes, you don't think, you don't feel, you just are. You know what I'm trying to say? Its the best feeling ever, no over analyzing things, no emotions, just for five minutes............

Xev
05-27-02, 03:24 PM
Cactus: I know the feeling. Quite nice.

Tyler
05-27-02, 03:29 PM
"Dude, have you ever felt this: Whenever I'm wrestling or doing martial arts or doing comedy or when I'm playin guitar and doing really well its just like you feel nothing. Its like you are nothing for maybe five minutes, you don't think, you don't feel, you just are. You know what I'm trying to say? Its the best feeling ever, no over analyzing things, no emotions, just for five minutes............"

Hellllllllls yes. Take that 5 minutes and make it aobut 3 hours and you'll have some vague idea what hockey does to me. And that No Title thread I have was this feeling for an hour, although even better.

But yeah, when my house is empty I crank the music, turn up the amp and absolutely love it.

Cactus Jack
05-27-02, 03:33 PM
Finaly some people that understand......its unexplainable how heavenly nothing can be............

Xev
05-27-02, 03:49 PM
Finaly some people that understand......its unexplainable how heavenly nothing can be............

It's what Zen Buddhists call enlightenment. It's what I feel after a long run or swim, or after a 24 hour coding binge. <-----Or studying code - I'm just coming down from one of those.

TruthSeeker
05-27-02, 06:01 PM
I agree with you :)

ndrs
05-27-02, 09:06 PM
XeV: I understand how you feel about computers... :eek:
I was with computers since I was about 9 or 10.. You could say that is the best friend I have... :p (Never lets you down.. Maybe if you used Windows it does though.. ) Earlier in childhood I used to get depressed if I wasn't near a computer for 48 hours. I would rather my parents left me alone at home and I could sit there doing night-runs, than spend time with my parents. My social skills certainly were going down all those years..
Sadly I had to start working because of circumstances, and the obsession was forced to go away.. I'm waiting till I be back @ studentship.
Nice talking to you all..

Asguard
05-27-02, 11:45 PM
i read to escape

thinking of nothing but submerging myself in the story

great escape

FoxMulder
05-28-02, 06:17 AM
I like that description. Windows is a purulent, festering boil on the anus of a cancerous rat.

And this is NOT a coincidence! The more time people spend trying to make sense of Windows, the less time they spend battleing the dark forces that are encroaching onto our lives!

Think about it.....

Bebelina: This is nothing to joke about!

Xev:

Not really. I still rue the day I invited him to crash on my couch.

Xev, you must stop mocking your personal Savior!


Bebelina, don't go encouraging him, now. He'll start ranting about "demon jelly doughnuts" or somthing.

Why doughnuts? You make fun of me when I tell you the TRUTH about demons. You mock me and make flip references to demon pizza!

Truthseeker:

I will complement...
Even Zeus spent three days shagging with Alcmena...

Do you think an ordinary human could have such stamina? Think about it....mankind has been "visited" by these "Gods" for thousands of years.....

Why? Are they really "Gods"? Or somthing else entirely?

Asguard
05-28-02, 06:23 AM
actully they are MYTHS

and a girl could go longer than a guy anyway:p

she probably just layed there while he screwed her brains out:p

and im SURE she enjoyed it:p

think of it

hes a god, he would know ALL the tricks in the book:p

Xev
05-28-02, 06:31 AM
Hi Foxy, welcome back again. :D

"Windows is a purulent, festering boil on the anus of a cancerous rat."

FoxMulder, I love you. May I use that description in my sig?

"Xev, you must stop mocking your personal Savior!

Just tellin' it like it happened, Foxy! He drank all my beer and never pitched in for groceries.

"Why doughnuts?"

Dunno, stayed up all night coding - or trying to code - need some sugar.

"You make fun of me when I tell you the TRUTH about demons. You mock me and make flip references to demon pizza!"

Sorry dude.

"Do you think an ordinary human could have such stamina?"

*Sigh*

Sadly, regrettebly, no.

"Why? Are they really "Gods"? Or somthing else entirely?"

Whatever "They" are, can I have "Their" number? ;)

FoxMulder
05-28-02, 06:43 AM
Xev:

FoxMulder, I love you. May I use that description in my sig?

Please do.


Dunno, stayed up all night coding - or trying to code - need some sugar.

Yes, you will need sugar for coding.


*Sigh*

Sadly, regrettebly, no.

That is NOT true!


Whatever "They" are, can I have "Their" number?

Xev, be wary of demons and their evil temptations! Or you shall be ensnared in demonic bondage.

Asguard:

actully they are MYTHS

What makes you so sure?


she probably just layed there while he screwed her brains out

She "laid" there? As in - well, I should not joke about these things.

Xev
05-28-02, 06:54 AM
"MICRO-SUCKS!"

Sweet music to my ears! Tell us more about the demons in M$ - in another thread, please, so as not to hyjack this one. :)

"Yes, you will need sugar for coding."

Yes I will! Sugar is a major food group for a larvae like me!

"That is NOT true!"

[Insert snide comment about male ego here]

Umm, so, then Fox, ah, come here often? ;)

"Xev, be wary of demons and their evil temptations! Or you shall be ensnared in demonic bondage."

Dude, put down the bong - you aren't supposed to drink that water! Good. Now put down "Justine".

That's a good Fox.

"She "laid" there? As in - well, I should not joke about these things."

Actually Foxy, please do.

Asguard
05-28-02, 07:07 AM
i don't know Foxy

bit of bondage is good for the sould and fun tohttp://www.clicksmilie.de/sammlung/engel/engel021.gif

AluKa
05-28-02, 08:17 PM
Well, I just broke up with my girlfriend of almost a year, and I can pretty much tell you what love isn't. If you wake up in the morning and feel obligated to call her, it's not love; if every time you see her you check to make sure no one's around, definately not; if everything she does just grates against your mind, . Pretty much, all I'm saying is that the opposite of love isn't hate, it's neutrality. If you're sleeping with someone but you don't really worry about her too much otherwise, you're definately not in love.
Love is when you wake up after dreaming about the person and just sit there thinking about what you saw. It's when that imagined kiss felt so real that you wanted to drop to your knees and cry out.
I'm talking to a girl on the phone who I've been in love with for 4 years. She's the one I dream about at night, she's the one that makes me weak. I can bring myself to tears just thinking about her. I made the mistake of tacking a picture of her to the wall right next to where I rest my head when I sleep, and now I dream about her every night. It's like a disease, but a nice one.
Love is the only thing that drives our species, and IMHO it'll be what destroys us. To lose the ability to love is to lose our humanity.

TruthSeeker
05-29-02, 06:52 PM
FoxMulder,


Do you think an ordinary human could have such stamina? Think about it....mankind has been "visited" by these "Gods" for thousands of years.....

Why? Are they really "Gods"? Or somthing else entirely?

Zeus is a God from the Greek Mythology...
It's interesting to note that you believe in UFOs and other mythologies... Christians usually think they are lies...

Love,
Nelson

Tyler
05-29-02, 06:54 PM
"Zeus is a God from the Greek Mythology...
It's interesting to note that you believe in UFOs and other mythologies... Christians usually think they are lies..."

Which is completely hypocritcal of course.

A4Ever
06-09-02, 06:27 AM
I see no contradiction between Christianity and UFO's...

aLostSoul
12-14-02, 08:47 AM
:(I love this girl, but she dumped me the other day and now i am so lst and i have no idea what to do with my self, any ideas? :confused:

pumpkinsaren'torange
12-14-02, 11:34 AM
:(
aw, you poor thing. all's i can suggest, as trite as it may sound to you right now, is that it[the hurt] will pass....time really does heal MOST wounds. if you are meant to be(as cliche as that sounds) with that person, you will be. take care.

adj
12-14-02, 06:09 PM
sometimes life sucks, then you fall in love again . . . .:D

Pollux V
12-16-02, 03:38 PM
She's a writer.

Is it love? I'd rather not lable it that yet...not until the feeling is returned, if it isn't already, or if it ever will be. The mystery unfolds...

reformedtopunk
12-16-02, 08:16 PM
to me, love is one of those things you just know. I usually don't want to admit it. Its like, you want to be around her all the time and no matter what happens you still feel the same way. I knew i was in love when i still felt the same way about her even when she was totally pissed at me, and no matter what she did, i couldn't help but forgive her. That was a bad sittuation, but at least you know for sure at that point. No matter how bad your day has been, or how shitty things are going for you, that first moment when you see her again makes it all go away, and all you can think of is wanting to be near her for as long as possible.

A pet peeve of mind is confusing lust for love. No offense, but it my opinion, this happens mostly with girls. No matter what an asshole the guy is, she stays with him and his good looks make her imagine all these good traits in personality. But i'm sure guys do this too.

Theres someone for everyone. Thats my philophy. I'm one of those people who believes that There is ONE PERSON who is just PERFECT for anyone. Problem seems to be, that you're not always THEIR perfect person.

adj
12-16-02, 08:54 PM
perhaps the difficulty lies in being "their" perfect . . . . how about making youself the acttractive object -- oh god, this is not what i'm trying to say; how about tomorrow, maybe i'll be me . . . .

Xev
12-16-02, 09:04 PM
What does love feel like?

Being force-fed ten tabs of E then hit repeatedly on the head with a shovel.


I see no contradiction between Christianity and UFO's...

Why, indeed, should myths contradict? ;)

adj
12-16-02, 09:15 PM
xev; if i regain my ability to reason, i'll try to contact you; salud!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TruthSeeker
12-16-02, 09:47 PM
We should all rely on ourselves, instead of someone outside us. For a matter of fact, I'm almost not having any girlfriend(s?) anymore... I rather concentrated on the Love that comes from within... It's much better...:)

TruthSeeker
12-16-02, 09:51 PM
aLostSoul,


I love this girl, but she dumped me the other day and now i am so lst and i have no idea what to do with my self, any ideas?

Concentrate on yourself and find joy from within yourself. If she is still your friend, whatever you do DON'T PUSH HER. I made that mistake and really lost my way... Be happy. If you develop your friendship with her, she may come back... :)

Love comes from within. If you depend on her as a source of love, it will never work. First find it within you, then, be close to her and be her friend.

Tyler
12-16-02, 10:07 PM
"We should all rely on ourselves, instead of someone outside us. For a matter of fact, I'm almost not having any girlfriend(s?) anymore... I rather concentrated on the Love that comes from within... It's much better..."

This from the man who by 18 had had one girlfriend? Dude, unless things changed drastically when you moved back to Brazil (how is that going, by the way), I wouldn't call your position a chosen one, rather one that's been force-fed to you.


And Nelson, have you ever considered writing self-help books? Don't take this offensively as you well know that I think everything you've ever said is just about as close to bullshit as writing can come, but; people eat up the kind of crap you write. That "be one with your surroundings" bullsmack and "love everyone". It's the kind of stuff cults form around.

TruthSeeker
12-16-02, 10:13 PM
What do you suggest? That he becomes addicted to her, as the TV shows so well in our society? Is the TV that influences us or it is us that influence the TV? I would guess both. Would you like to be addicted to someone? Go ahead... but when you lose her, don't weep...

Xev
12-16-02, 11:28 PM
Loving yourself as a substitute for loving another is like masturbating when you could be having great sex.

TruthSeeker
12-16-02, 11:33 PM
I'm not talking about this kind of love. I'm saying that if you are not auto-suficient, then you will always suffer with "love". That's why everyone thinks that love brings suffering, which is not true. What brings suffering is when you depend your happiness on someone else.

Xev
12-16-02, 11:41 PM
Suffering is good. The Christian ascesis of suffering in order to avoid suffering has fucked western culture up good.

TruthSeeker
12-16-02, 11:43 PM
Suffering is not good... And Christians don't like suffering...

Xev
12-16-02, 11:45 PM
Suffering is good, and y'all love suffering. Christianity is really a religion of masochists....which would be fine, except for their insistance on following the golden rule. ;)

TruthSeeker
12-16-02, 11:47 PM
we are not masochists. where in the Bible it is said that suffering is good?

Xev
12-16-02, 11:52 PM
Yes you are. You enjoy suffering like no-one else.

The Bible? Fuck, read the fucking New Testament. Blessed are the meek....

TruthSeeker
12-16-02, 11:52 PM
cite it. I challenge you...:bugeye: :eek:

reformedtopunk
12-18-02, 06:31 AM
I kinda see what Xev is saying. Christianity discourages you from doing alot of things that would be just a normal thing. (if their were not christian morals), therefore hurting your ego.. which may be just as damaging as hurting your body.

Or am i way off Xev?

TruthSeeker
12-18-02, 06:46 PM
And what do you concider "normal"? Do you have a flexible or fixed conception of "normal"? Is "normal" the best or there might be something better? If "normal" is how the world is, don't you think there might be a better way to be...?

Brainless
12-29-06, 04:01 PM
Tyler,

I had a girlfriend... and I'll tell you my experience.

Before I went out with her, I really Loved her. I missed her, but not enough to lose my inner peace. I was having fun and enjoying life with her. The problem came when I began to go out with her. I tasted the sweet honey of a girl's lip and fell in despair whenever she wasn't with me - she became an addiction. I couldn't have fun anymore when I was alone, and whenever she was with me, I wanted to stay with her and don't let her go. She started feeling umcomfortable with the situation and broke with me. It was really painful - I had lost my Love.

You see. My Love turned into love. My joy and simplicity were transformed into an addiction, a need. That's why people say that love hurts. It doesn't. Love is very peaceful. Love creates peace. Why do you want to go out with someone? To be fulfilled by the other person? To discount all your problems in the other person? Or it is simply to have fun? I don't know about you... but everything I want is to have fun and to be happy. :)

You see... people transform Love into an addiction (and sometimes it's addiction since the beginning) and this creates suffering. If, for example, a guy want to stay with a girl that is addicted to him, he can control her. She becomes his pet. She does everything he wants because if she doesn't, the guy won't give her "love" and she suffers. She is addicted to him. He abuses her. Who is to blame? Anyone. She wants that, he wants that and that's it. Not very pleasant, but many people are like this. That's NOT Love. Love is self-fulfilling. You don't NEED other person neither other person NEEDS you. You just want to have fun. If there is a need/attachement, you don't Love each other, you just want to be with the other to satisfy YOUR "NEED"... what is very selfish...

People know love...
But don't know Love...

love creates suffering and addiction...
Love creates inner peace and happiness...
:)

Love,
Nelson

Maaaaaaaaan...

I just registered on this site for one reason only.

I had to say THANK YOU for this. Seriously. Thank you. You have just changed everything and made me a much better, happier person.

What you said is SO right.

I won't give you my life's story but suffice to say, you have said something here which has struck a chord deep within me and made my current dilemma alot more manageable.

I feel enlightended.

Thank you.

Brainless
12-29-06, 04:16 PM
What do you suggest? That he becomes addicted to her, as the TV shows so well in our society? Is the TV that influences us or it is us that influence the TV? I would guess both. Would you like to be addicted to someone? Go ahead... but when you lose her, don't weep...

You're starting to freak me out now. In a good way...

Pretty much all my experience of love has come from TV - having never really felt it before - and for a long time I've quietly wondered if sometimes the feelings I have are the result of a compulsion to feel the way I've been shown on TV and in magazines and such, because that's the only thing I really have to relate to.

Maybe you Christian guys aren't so bad afterall ;)

TruthSeeker
01-03-07, 05:10 PM
Maaaaaaaaan...

I just registered on this site for one reason only.

I had to say THANK YOU for this. Seriously. Thank you. You have just changed everything and made me a much better, happier person.

What you said is SO right.

I won't give you my life's story but suffice to say, you have said something here which has struck a chord deep within me and made my current dilemma alot more manageable.

I feel enlightended.

Thank you.
:eek:

I wrote that stuff over 4 years ago!!!! :p

I'm glad it helped you. I'm glad it still helps people! :)

imaplanck.
01-03-07, 06:02 PM
Love feels like it hurts like nothing else can, love feels like a high like nothing else, love feels like it will last for ever.
None of that is actually true.

shakushinnen
01-05-07, 10:41 PM
Hi Cactus Jack,
Yes, all that plus ... you love the taste of her skin, and the smell of her hair. You usually have an agenda when with other people, but when with her your only agenda is to please her, and bask in the glow of her presence. When you're not with her you feel incomplete. You're more vulnerable with her, and without her, than ever before.
John

Kendall
01-12-07, 02:24 PM
Love feels great, comfortable.

Athelwulf
01-14-07, 03:54 PM
And just like that, the thread lives on!

D_B_Z_SSJ5Goku
06-30-07, 09:58 AM
If you don't want to read all this junk. Skip down to the bottom and read what I think love is... I kind of rant a bit here...

In order for you to be in love, you have to be reasonable and on top of the world. You have to be on top of yourself, and have reasons for everything that happens about everything in your life. When someone says the 'spark died' in a relationship, that's not a reason- it's an excuse. Unfortunately, the 'dead spark' excuse has been disgracefully overused by many many people.

My experience with regard to love:


I grew up knowing what NOT to do in a relationship based on my parents and their divorce. I also took note of my mother's new spouse whom was an abusive person and how he dealt with his relationship with my mother. My success thus far has been based solely on experience. I know what's right and what's wrong. I know what works and what doesn't.

Another key, I believe, is to make money of no value to you.

Definitely money is important and should not be ignored- however, it should not rule your life. Money should be to retire and to spend on occasional bouts of fun... that is all. For all you gold diggers out there- this post is not for you.

With this type of attitude, you can freely spend money on your partner, and your partner will freely spend money on you... As long as you're open about your ideas on the matter, and absolutely encourage her to relax, and to really not worry about the money- a trust begins to grow... Especially if you're the one to put out the money first.

This does not mean by her a $5499.99 mountain bike. Catch my drift? A night out at the mall and buying her dinner, while she shops (and pays) for her own clothes is a great way to build a comfort. If you told her your feelings on money, she'll eventually start to do the same for you- and buy you dinner.

Love is Give and Take. Giving and Taking requires Money. Want love? Forget about the money.


My encounter with love has turned out to be extremely successful.



Augh. It would take forever to talk through my experiences and justify everything that happened. I can't stress enough the point about the money though. I believe that was key to my experience.

It seems like I made my whole post out to be that love is about the money, lol. oh sweet lord no. That's just a good comfort-building start.

Ok, I need to ask myself something, what am I trying to say here? I'm definitely in 'love' not 'Love'. Love is Stupid. You're not ever truly in Love... but you CAN be truly in love.

My partner is extremely supportive in me and believes in my abilities 100% of the time. There is never a time that she does not believe in me with respect to something.

Ok,




ENOUGH OF THIS.


LOVE IS THE FOLLOWING:

100% trust, 30% faith, 30% dedication, 10% at peace, 40% in lust, 50% intellectually attracted, and 35% physically attracted.

Total Effort: 195%

Yeah. You basically have to give your everything to her, and she has to give her everything to you. Sometimes, you're going to get hurt. I promise you that. What you get out of it though is so amazing that it's worth the fight.


Best Regards,

-Sean

P.S. If any of you want to hear my love story because their bored- or because they want to apply it to their own life, give me a shout

My e-mail is S_Balkwill@hotmail.com :bugeye:

Fugu-dono
06-30-07, 10:08 AM
Love is sex. Just use them for sexual gratification then move on to the next. How does it feel? Nice, warm, and wet.

battig1370
07-01-07, 10:50 AM
What does love feel like?

You know what love feels like when you are a friend and help someone in need.

TruthSeeker
07-01-07, 12:21 PM
Love feels goooooood... Huummmmmmm..... :D

Yorda
07-01-07, 01:16 PM
love feels like hate. it's the same thing.

EmptyForceOfChi
07-02-07, 08:07 AM
love is the double edged sword, and ofcourse it has to be that way. if you love somebody they can bring you untold amounts of joy and happiness, but because you are that connected and bound to them, they can also hurt you the deepest.

but in life we have to take the bad with the good. the rough with the smooth. for every joy we can feel there is a sadness to match it somewhere. but its worth it and i wouldent rid myself of love for my wife for anything in the world.



peace.

S.A.M.
07-02-07, 12:57 PM
Love is friendship, fascination, fantasies, feelings, fate, forgiveness and forever.

Like this old song

When somebody loves you
It's no good unless he loves you
All the way
Happy to be near you
When you need someone to cheer you
All the way

~ * ~ * ~

Taller than the tallest tree is
That's how it's got to feel
Deeper than the deep blue sea is
That's how deep it goes
If it's real

~ * ~ * ~

When somebody needs you
It's no good unless he needs you
All the way
Through the good or lean years
And for all those in between years
Come what may


~ * ~ * ~

Who knows where the road will lead us
Only a fool would say
But if you'll let me love you
It's for sure I'm gonna love you
All the way
All the way

Yorda
07-02-07, 02:46 PM
but its worth it and i wouldent rid myself of love for my wife for anything in the world.

nothing is worth anything.
you can't love anything but love itself (god).
and i would rid myself of everything for anything.

EmptyForceOfChi
07-02-07, 04:43 PM
nothing is worth anything.
you can't love anything but love itself (god).
and i would rid myself of everything for anything.

i suggest writting that down for your wedding vows, they are very romantic.

peace.

BladeWalker
08-09-07, 04:18 PM
I also broke up with my girlfriend, this was last night and I feel terrible,

Maybe some day I will know that what I felt was in fact Love and not this thing that I think should be "Love", I mean this "Love" is the one that I've been exposed to all my life the "Love" from TV, from movies, commercials and what people think and say should feel like "Love" (butterflies in the stomach, thinking about that person all the time etc) and having never really experienced it before I didn't know any better

Maybe every single person feels Love in different ways there's no "One size fits all" for Love and I think that's why I had to break up with her 'cause she was constantly telling me (suggesting) that I wasn't feeling (or I wasn't having the usual symptoms of) Love and besides she wasn't my ideal woman (again forced-fed on me by TV etc. etc.) Or maybe this is just an excuse, if I really loved her I wouldn't care about those "suggestions" I wouldn't need someone to tell me what I was feeling or not ! even If that someone was the person I love, yeah maybe I never loved her in the first place and I was feeling sorry for her and didn't dare telling her (which is something she said she hated, I mean for someone to feel sorry or pity for her)

I don't know that's why I'm writing with maybes

Don't get me wrong, I didn't break up with her just because she was (in a way) pushing me to that but because I really felt I did not love her and all I was doing was lying to her and to myself, I didn't want to hurt her anymore because I was starting to hurt her more and more by not answering her questions with straight answers and she could probably tell I was in doubt by the tone of my voice

I really screwed up guys ! If this wasn't Love what was it?, I'm starting to regret this decision

Let me explain to you guys what was the kind of Love that I felt:

it's true that I felt kind of sorry for her because she told me she was just recovering from an abusive relationship in which her boyfriend almost killed her by bitting her up while she was pregnant and that made her lose the baby and the ability of ever becoming pregnant again she felt "empty inside" in her own words

I could notice certain self destructive tendencies in her behavior (she was doing drugs and smoking too much), but aside from all this I was really captivated by her story and her strange beauty, so different to what I was looking for (or to what I was force-fed), I was drawn to her by her "bad girl" looks and because she also likes hard rock music (which is quite strange in my country for a girl to like, or so I thought!) anyway we had a lot of things in common, sometimes it was like if she could read my mind and sex was sooo good, but we also had things we didn't like about each other and I thought that even when my love wasn't a wild and intense feeling it was virtuous because it was not based on pre-conceived ideas or likes.

But in the end my obsession with beauty was stronger and I realized that I wasn't as attracted to her physically as to promise her eternal "couple faithfulness" and so one day she said: please tell me if you're not my "magician", don't lie to me, so two days later and after having it thought really hard, (a song in the radio really made up my mind it seemed to be written just for that occasion), I decided to break up with her.

So Love to me is a very confusing feeling....

EmptyForceOfChi
08-09-07, 05:26 PM
a shank in the spinal cord, from some guy in a cell fight.


peace.

cosmictraveler
08-09-07, 06:21 PM
Love plays many sounds and shows us many colors, but the most important thing about it is that we can express it as well as recieve it.

Norsefire
08-09-07, 07:14 PM
A rainbow in your heart

juju
08-17-07, 02:15 AM
...impatience, you just can't wait to see them again, on your mind all the time..?? Is that how? I don't know, I'm too young, Education first then love!:p
Kidding!

Love is a word, you can't describe it, you can only feel it and i'm sure you all know how it feels.
Salams.

juju
08-17-07, 02:17 AM
Offtopic : Yay! My 17th post, not bad...how do you all reach to your thousands? Lol, lotsa time on your hands...

Wisdom_Seeker
08-17-07, 08:53 AM
Love feels like fresh water pouring down to your heart; it cleanses your soul. Love feels like an overflowing magic inside you, with no limitations or fear.
When you are in love, you are high on it, you are generous, you become the love.
Love is like an eternal flame that never fades... it becomes a fire in your being, it is uncontainable, and you are possesed by it...

The longest breath of love, is the shortest distance to heaven...

hope this helps :p

Beautiful1989
10-24-07, 02:49 AM
I think that love is when he is the last thing you think about before you go to bed and the first thing when you wake up in the morning its when everything they do in your eyes is perfection like when youre at work and all day you think of things to say to them that will make them laugh its when you cant sleep unless hes ther for you to lay your head on when you call him just to hear his voice when your away from him and he stays on the phone till you fall asleep because without him youre incomplete its when you miss him so bad that everything that reminds you of him makes you cry because youre not together and the only way you feel happy is when you see a picture or hear his voice and your favorite lauryn hill song brings you to tears of joy because you cant believe that god has blessed you with such a wonderful feeling

DESTINY831
01-16-08, 10:06 AM
Thank You for shining some light on this subject.
Nelson, I as well had never visited this site before but did join at the opportunity to thank you for your insight in this topic. I have recently found myself in a relationship that is quickly spinning out of control but for sake of loss, I do not want to bail out. He wants me with him all of the time, and for a while I guess I wanted that to, but now I just seem to be running scared.
Any suggestions on how to slow him down a bit, or should I trust my instinct deal with the pain and leave him???
I hope you still hang around here!
Thanks in advance!
Amanda

Why?
01-16-08, 11:00 AM
Love is not felt in your groins. Love otherwise feels good.

machaon
01-17-08, 07:02 PM
Love feels like brand spanking new hippopotamus. You know, like a little brown lake with ferns and stuff.

xxB@biCJxx
01-30-08, 08:36 AM
Feeling kind of confused right now about the whole idea that there are two types of love...i haven't had alot of boyfriends but yet still believe i've felt some type of love at some point. When i was younger it may have been a stupid crush though but i'll tell you how it felt and maybe you could tell me what you think.
All i know and rememba is that, he was one of the boys you could only dream about havin...i think he was popular good looking and i liked him to the point yano where u've seen a girl or boi that you like and you try picture there head in ur mind but u can neva get it right ..bits missin..jus doesnt work...i used to stare at this guy so much i could get what he looked like perfectly and used to wish i could take thsi picture out of my mind and put it on to paper ..copy it and have his picture all round my room...baring in mind i was in like year 5 or 6..one day we started going out..what i didnt know was that his mum n my mum were close friends.
i rememba him cumin up to me on valentines day givin me some chocolate ..which was to bunnys looking at eachother and a chocolate heart in the middle but his mum had to pass it to me because he was hiding behind her..hehe ..bless him..something bad happened in the time i was going out with him ...which took place round him house..which i dont think i should talk about if this is something every1 is goin to see...even though probabli most of u can gues..all i knw that afta wat he tried to do i felt nothing the same...but cudnt dump him cuz even though wat he tried to do i cudnt bring myself to hurt him :(...how sad is that...
neway wat i was talkin about at the first part of my long arse story tell me what you make of it...and i have about 2 myb 2 more stories for u 2 luk at ..if u wna that is.. x cj x

pjdude1219
02-21-08, 11:42 PM
its squishy

Fraggle Rocker
02-22-08, 06:13 PM
Feeling kind of confused right now about the whole idea that there are two types of love...i haven't had alot of boyfriends but yet still believe i've felt some type of love at some point. When i was younger it may have been a stupid crush though but i'll tell you how it felt and maybe you could tell me what you think.When you're young you have two problems identifying love. One is that your hormones are very active so much of what you feel is simply the physiological effect of your endocrine system on your brain rather than an emotional effect. A really good-looking (or otherwise attractive) person of the opposite sex can arouse you sexually and you interpret it as a romantic feeling.

The other problem is perhaps even more basic. Since you have little or no experience with romantic love, you don't exactly know what it's supposed to feel like. You feel a "crush" for someone, which is only affection. Or you feel admiration, respect, wistfulness, loneliness, gratitude, any of a hundred emotions. Add to that the insistent reminder from your hormones that you really wanna get laid, and as far as you can tell, that combination of strong feelings is what love is.

This isn't made any easier to sort out by the fact that love really is a combination of strong feelings. There's just a little more to it than a crush combined with lust, or loneliness combined with a nice-looking guy expressing interest in you.

You're probably going to get this same answer from every adult you ask: Love is something that you'll just know when you get it. I'm sure I've given this answer to several other young folks on this board before: If you're not sure, even the teeny-weeniest little doubt, then it's not love. Love knocks you down and leaves you with absolutely no doubt. And frequently with no breath and no sense either. :)

sowhatifit'sdark
02-23-08, 12:39 AM
When you're young you have two problems identifying love. One is that your hormones are very active so much of what you feel is simply the physiological effect of your endocrine system on your brain rather than an emotional effect. A really good-looking (or otherwise attractive) person of the opposite sex can arouse you sexually and you interpret it as a romantic feeling.

Well the scientists who gave us the reduced to hormones theory of adolescent behavior are going to have hormones and neurortransmitters for romantic attraction too. And an honest appraisal of our crushes, infatuations and romantic attractions, should, I think reveal that we can be loopy about romance also.

Adult divorce rates, extramarital affairs, prostitute visits and general dissatisfaction should set off little warning bells that age or relative stability carries with it discerning powers.

sowhatifit'sdark
02-23-08, 12:41 AM
Love is not felt in your groins. Love otherwise feels good.
I find love is felt my groin (I have just one groin, and I even find I do not envy those with more than one). I notice that the woman I have loved have been loved by my groin. And much more than my groin has loved other women who I did not love with all the other non-groin regions.

Heath Ledger
02-26-08, 05:59 PM
If life were a musical instrument, love would be the music.

lacoste268
03-17-08, 02:02 PM
well, i have seen some reli good explanations on here, cactus jacks really does ring true. for me, there is this girl in my life, we are in a relationship, only for a month or so atm, amd we are still young, 17 n 19 2 b exact, but i will tell you what i feel like, i dont know if it is love, but it just feels right.
when we are together, there isnt anywhere else i would rather be, i jsut want the time to last forever, but it seems to go by so quickly, when i hold her in my arms, i feel like nothing could ever be wrong, even looking into her eyes, everything warms up. when i leave however, i miss her, so much it is unbelievable, everytime i get a text or call i want it to be her. things really couldnt be any better atm. like i said, i dont know wot love is meant to feel like, but there is something tellin me that me n her were meant to be, everything is perfect atm, for me, she is the most perfect person i know. so i am too inexperienced to know for definate if it is love, and i will appreciate anything you have to say, but it reli does feel like we have something special :)

nessiboi
07-25-08, 06:02 PM
So here is my deal right now. been single for over 3 years (by choice) was waiting for that one girl to come along and knock me off my feet. happened. i cant stand not seeing her. i don't see her for a day or 2 and it feels like 2 weeks. she just got out of a 3 year relationship with a guy she FINALLY realized wasn't good to her/for her. its only been a lil over 2 months or so and she told me that she didn't know if she was ready/or wanted another relationship. I told her that i was totally fine with that and that i was by her side 100%. she says she loves me she just wanted to tell me now so that she doesnt end up hurting me in the end because she wasn't 100% committed. which i can completely agree with. i guess im just curious to know that; is this normal? i can kinda see why because obviously she just got done with a relationship, but i dunno everything was going really well and i still talk to her everyday. ummm whats going on? im not worried about anything but at the same time i am. help me out!!! haha thank you :)

visceral_instinct
07-25-08, 06:41 PM
Inject adrenaline, lots of it...and I believe dopamine is involved too

Asguard
07-25-08, 06:42 PM
VI actually adrenilin would have little to do with it, well unless your actually having sex i surpose

visceral_instinct
07-25-08, 06:46 PM
VI actually adrenilin would have little to do with it, well unless your actually having sex i surpose

Last time I was 'in love' with someone, I was extremely hyperactive and did not sleep due to thinking about this guy...which hormone is that?

Asguard
07-25-08, 06:48 PM
dopamine, seritonan possably, maybe a slight amount of adrenilin

but you cant live on adrenilin or your heart would explode so i guess it depends if we are talking about love or lust

lust could well be noradrenilin and dopamine but love lasts years and that much adrenilin over that time frame would kill you

Asguard
07-25-08, 06:49 PM
oh and most importantly testostorone and estrogen

visceral_instinct
07-25-08, 06:51 PM
dopamine, seritonan possably, maybe a slight amount of adrenilin

but you cant live on adrenilin or your heart would explode so i guess it depends if we are talking about love or lust

lust could well be noradrenilin and dopamine but love lasts years and that much adrenilin over that time frame would kill you

Ah, thanks, I actually thought that was adrenaline...

I guess it was mainly lust. Though it was definitely love as well, I had known this guy as a friend for a while, and I liked him for who he was as well as....y'know. :D

visceral_instinct
07-25-08, 06:52 PM
oh and most importantly testostorone and estrogen

I was talking about the hyperactivity and high emotion, though. Can testosterone and estrogen do that?

Asguard
07-25-08, 06:55 PM
testostorone also causes sypathetic arousal, thats what drives your sex drive not the fight or flight or frezees responce, estrogen is also involved.

i will do some resurch today and try to give you a better answer than my best guess though

visceral_instinct
07-25-08, 06:56 PM
I know adrenaline does not drive the libido...didn't know that it caused sympathetic arousal though.

And thanks.

Asguard
07-25-08, 07:11 PM
VI yes you did, thats what we were discussing in the other thread, increased heart rate and contractability, broncial dilation, vasoconstriction ect

Anyway a quick search seems to suggest that pair bonding (love) is caused by Oxytocin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxytocin) in females and Vasopressin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasopressin) in men

lust on the other hand seems to be caused by testotorone but lowered levels of the nerotransmiters like sertintonan and dophimine inhibit libido so they probably have something to do with it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libido

visceral_instinct
07-25-08, 07:13 PM
ah shit, I was on about testosterone there, sorry, I got confused. *slaps forehead*

and thanks for links. :)

Betrayer0fHope
07-27-08, 11:58 PM
I couldn't help but notice that although I am only fourteen, I have definitely experienced what is described in post number 1, 3, and 4. I definitely don't consider what I felt love, but I definitely middle school style like "like like" liked her. Anyone think I might've felt a bit more than that? Because even after she was acting like a total b*tch to me I still felt the same way. Does this strike anyone as odd to anyone out there?

Cellar_Door
07-28-08, 08:08 AM
Sorry to not reply to anything in particular, but has anyone ever read Captain Correlli's Mandolin?
In it the father of one of the main characters talks about two types of 'love':

1. The hot, passionate love where you ache to be together, always have the other in your mind and you want to make love and touch as much as you possibly can. This rarely lasts long.
2. The much more boring love which is often found as the first fades away. The quiet devotion which is not necessarily undying.

I personally think that love is too broad a term, which doesn't differ from passion to seeing your newborn baby for the first time. Should we differentiate, or are they all essentially rooted in the same thing?

Bebelina
07-28-08, 08:29 PM
It's disgusting.

To read my old posts...

S.A.M.
07-28-08, 08:35 PM
Love feels like an obsession.

Bebelina
07-28-08, 08:37 PM
Not love, that's just great, like being tickled non-stop by someone evil and you try to scream but noone will hear you because you're dead.

cannabisativa
11-24-08, 10:51 PM
I know this post is really old but i really need help, I've told this girl I love her and now we're in a long distance relationship with an end in sight; i.e. im going to college near her. she's my first girlfriend and we say were completely in love and i know she's in love with me, and i thought i was too with a few doubts sometimes, but based on all the descriptions above i am having many more doubts and if you doubt it it's not real love, no? i need help i don't know what to do anymore. she makes me happy and takes care of me and the sex is great but i get annoyed at her all the time and i can't accept her completely. i dont laugh at all her jokes in fact most are annoying, is it possible to love someone with these types of feelings?

Fraggle Rocker
11-25-08, 02:51 PM
I know this post is really old but i really need help, I've told this girl I love her and now we're in a long distance relationship with an end in sight; i.e. im going to college near her. she's my first girlfriend. . . .Understanding love usually takes both a little experience and a little maturity. If this is your first relationship you don't have anything to compare it to. And if you're an adolescent your emotions are very highly influenced by hormones so it's hard to tell how much of what you're feeling is derived from what you experience and how much is internal. So it's wise to be skeptical.
. . . .and we say were completely in love and i know she's in love with me, and i thought i was too with a few doubts sometimes, but based on all the descriptions above i am having many more doubts and if you doubt it it's not real love, no?We all have doubts from time to time. The older you get and the longer you've been with someone, the less frequent those doubts are, I mean like twenty years apart, but they might still happen. But love is a feeling, not a thought process, so you should (to quote Roxette) "Listen to Your Heart." It's okay and in fact it's a really good idea to let your head intervene and tell you whether a particular relationship is healthy to pursue--you might not have enough in common, she might be lying, etc. But you generally don't want to let your head answer the basic question of whether you're in love. That's your heart's job.

That said, I think most people would agree that when you're in love you know it and you're not going to have a lot of doubts about it.
i need help i don't know what to do anymore. she makes me happy and takes care of me and the sex is greatLots of people might be able to do that for you, but it doesn't mean you're in love with all of them.
but i get annoyed at her all the time and i can't accept her completely.Well that's not good. Even if you're in love with her, if you don't enjoy her, don't trust her, don't value you her, it will be really difficult to establish a healthy relationship with her. (I'm being sarcastic: It will be impossible!)
i dont laugh at all her jokes in fact most are annoyingWell she might have a lot of great qualities that attract you to her, and you might be in love with her, but if spending time with her annoys you that's not going to be the basis for a productive, healthy relationship. If you don't laugh at each other's jokes then there's something very important that you don't have in common. Understand that it might not be important to everybody, but the fact that you mentioned it and it bothers you means it's important to YOU.
. . . . is it possible to love someone with these types of feelings?Of course it is. People fall in love with the wrong person all the time. Often they even marry the wrong person. It makes for a pretty miserable life in most cases. Contrary to the old saying, love does NOT conquer all.

The important question for you is not: Am I in love with her?

The important question for you is: Can I be happy in a relationship with her?

Somehow I think that second question will be a lot easier for you to answer. :)

Love does not force a commitment on you. You can be in love with somebody and choose not to pursue it. In many cases it's more kind and fair to both of you to walk away from a love that is destined to fail, than to stubbornly stick around and watch it fail.

Good luck.

blackfoundations
07-26-09, 12:11 PM
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always preserves.

-Corinthians 13:4-7

You'll know...

visceral_instinct
07-26-09, 12:15 PM
Edit:

I posted here already...
Anyway, it's a kind of feeling like you're going to have diarrhea when you think of someone, or look at them..

swarm
07-29-09, 03:15 AM
ah shit, I was on about testosterone there, sorry, I got confused. *slaps forehead*

and thanks for links. :)

Prolactin is also involved. It, testosterone and estrogen are homones, oxytocin and vassopresin are peptides, dopamine, seratonin, [and several others] are neurotrasmitters.

For men testosterone rules libido and aggression.

Women, they still don't really know. Some repond to testosterone increases, others don't and you have to be careful or you pick up male characteristics if you over do it. Lowering prolactin and stimulating dopamine seems to intensify, but not necessarily create libido. Oxytocin seems to help bonding in both sexes, but not necessarily libido. NO seems to get the equipment working. Bing fertile seems to increase libido for women. Being on thepill seems to decrease it as do ssri's, but some have pradoxical increases in libido.

when first falling in love you get a big spike of dopamine which is an excitatory neuro transmitter (along with a bunch of other stuff). THat is what keeps you awake, makes you grind your teeth and makes you an ocd poster child.

That wears off eventually and seratonin/oxytocin takes over as the main juice so you just feel good hanging out together.

Anti-Flag
07-29-09, 07:02 AM
I remember saying to my nan, 'Nan, what is love?" And my nan taught me something I'll never forget. She said, 'You know, I've always thought of it as something very natural, and very organic. Oh yes, on the outside it's tough and it's ugly and it's hard but let it grow naturally and look inside and you'll see it's soft and it's gentle.' I said, 'That's the most beautiful thing I've ever heard. Do you really believe that's what love is?' And she said 'Love? Sorry I thought you said a melon.'

Rav
08-20-09, 06:59 AM
And now, to make your eyes roll out of your head...

"When you fall in love, it is a temporary madness. It erupts like an earthquake, and then it subsides. And when it subsides, you have to make a decision. You have to work out whether your roots have become so entwined together that it is inconceivable that you should ever part. Because this is what love is. Love is not breathlessness, it is not excitement, it is not the desire to mate every second of the day. It is not lying awake at night imagining that he is kissing every part of your body. No… don’t blush. I am telling you some truths. For that is just being in love; which any of us can convince ourselves we are. Love itself is what is left over, when being in love has burned away. Doesn't sound very exciting, does it? But it is!"

All the wisdom of the world can be found in movies, if you're willing to set your bullshit tolerance high enough to survive the inanity. I'm part of a dying breed of people who look for reasons to like a film, who can walk away feeling that the experience was worthwhile if there was at least one thing that inspired me. It's easy enough, if you want to be inspired. This little gem can be found in a movie described by one reviewer as "One of the year's most embarrassing big-budget miscalculations". It is from Captain Corelli's Mandolin of course. I've liked Nicholas Cage in about 2 movies, and this wasn't one of them. I will however always remember this quote, which wasn't one of his lines.

I'm sure this point has been made before. I didn't peruse the entire thread. But what the original poster is describing here is infatuation, not love. It's a fantastic and profoundly wonderful insanity, but even though it is these things and much more, it lacks substance. True love does indeed exist in the real world, but it grows out of struggle and compromise rather than levity and sleeplessness. It's the easiest thing in the world to be in love. In fact research has demonstrated that during this period of intense infatuation two people are never more alike. It's a biochemical thing that is an integral part of the bonding process.

But what does real love feel like? I'd say that it feels like a lot of different things. Contentedness after compromise, happiness after sacrifice. It is saying sorry when you're absolutely convinced that your argument is just as valid. It's a rollercoaster ride of highs and lows. And it is as a previous colleague of mine once said "looking back over 40 years of marriage and thanking God that I didn't throw in the towel when I really wanted to".

Not all relationships are going to last of course. Sometimes people just aren't right for each other. But there are also lot of people who miss out on the experience of this deeper longer lasting love because they throw it all away at the first sign of trouble. Love is when two people decide to put in enough effort to make it work, and come to truly appreciate each other because of it. And facing life together like that is indeed an exciting thing.

thesarafurter
08-20-09, 09:51 AM
My concept of love is that it is something difficult to attain, often confused with lust, infatuation...these are animal desires stemming from the need to mate and carry one's own seed on. Throughout high school, I had a good many relationships, all of which I perceived as being 'love'. Just after high school, I had a relationship at the ripe old age of 18 in which I was introduced to love, the reality.

Love isn't about aesthetics, nor is it about mere mental stimulation. Love isn't even about that warm, fuzzy feeling you get inside. The love I found was a realization that I was far too young and immature to appreciate for what it was.

In my experience, this is what love is: Love is accepting that you can be happy and working for your own personal happiness, not feeling as though you absolutely need someone else in your life to validate your existence. Love is when you realize that there is someone out there you value greatly who contributes to your own personal happiness in the least selfish manner possible. It's caring about yourself and understanding your needs while realizing that there is someone who fits into your own personal ideal of happiness. It's not forced or even horribly difficult, it merely is.

mike47
08-20-09, 09:54 AM
Love feels sweet but there are many kinds of love......;) .

Aclevername
10-04-09, 12:40 AM
When your away from the other person and it feels like there is a giant hole tearing open your heart

thinking
10-05-09, 03:46 PM
Allright, in good metaphor/philosophical terms what - from personal experience - does love feel like?

For me, its every moment your mind has free time your thinking about the person. You don't see her for a day you're missing her, and even when you do see her dring the day it always seems like it wasn't enough time spent together. You burn for physical contact, I can't believe shes real, something so beautiful can't be real. You burn for return feelings, for discussion, for interaction. And most imprtantly shes perfect, not as in some impossible to fill ideal created by man, but in your standards, and as a human shes perfect. Also shes so beautiful its like looking at the stars, you can make a second last an eternity. And you never get sick of being with her.

Oh, well.......... :(

What about you guys?

AGREED and she's your best friend

S.A.M.
10-05-09, 03:49 PM
I'm sure this point has been made before. I didn't peruse the entire thread. But what the original poster is describing here is infatuation, not love. It's a fantastic and profoundly wonderful insanity, but even though it is these things and much more, it lacks substance. True love does indeed exist in the real world, but it grows out of struggle and compromise rather than levity and sleeplessness. It's the easiest thing in the world to be in love. In fact research has demonstrated that during this period of intense infatuation two people are never more alike. It's a biochemical thing that is an integral part of the bonding process.

But what does real love feel like? I'd say that it feels like a lot of different things. Contentedness after compromise, happiness after sacrifice. It is saying sorry when you're absolutely convinced that your argument is just as valid. It's a rollercoaster ride of highs and lows. And it is as a previous colleague of mine once said "looking back over 40 years of marriage and thanking God that I didn't throw in the towel when I really wanted to".

Not all relationships are going to last of course. Sometimes people just aren't right for each other. But there are also lot of people who miss out on the experience of this deeper longer lasting love because they throw it all away at the first sign of trouble. Love is when two people decide to put in enough effort to make it work, and come to truly appreciate each other because of it. And facing life together like that is indeed an exciting thing.

Agreed.

xyz_abcd
10-25-09, 10:54 AM
Tyler,

I had a girlfriend... and I'll tell you my experience.

Before I went out with her, I really Loved her. I missed her, but not enough to lose my inner peace. I was having fun and enjoying life with her. The problem came when I began to go out with her. I tasted the sweet honey of a girl's lip and fell in despair whenever she wasn't with me - she became an addiction. I couldn't have fun anymore when I was alone, and whenever she was with me, I wanted to stay with her and don't let her go. She started feeling umcomfortable with the situation and broke with me. It was really painful - I had lost my Love.

You see. My Love turned into love. My joy and simplicity were transformed into an addiction, a need. That's why people say that love hurts. It doesn't. Love is very peaceful. Love creates peace. Why do you want to go out with someone? To be fulfilled by the other person? To discount all your problems in the other person? Or it is simply to have fun? I don't know about you... but everything I want is to have fun and to be happy. :)

You see... people transform Love into an addiction (and sometimes it's addiction since the beginning) and this creates suffering. If, for example, a guy want to stay with a girl that is addicted to him, he can control her. She becomes his pet. She does everything he wants because if she doesn't, the guy won't give her "love" and she suffers. She is addicted to him. He abuses her. Who is to blame? Anyone. She wants that, he wants that and that's it. Not very pleasant, but many people are like this. That's NOT Love. Love is self-fulfilling. You don't NEED other person neither other person NEEDS you. You just want to have fun. If there is a need/attachement, you don't Love each other, you just want to be with the other to satisfy YOUR "NEED"... what is very selfish...

People know love...
But don't know Love...

love creates suffering and addiction...
Love creates inner peace and happiness...
:)

Love,
Nelson

TruthSeeker/Nelson If you are still on this forum and read this please know that you post was of great help to me.
I just registered to say my thanks.

Lori_7
10-25-09, 12:58 PM
Love feels like freedom.

Lori_7
10-25-09, 01:14 PM
Love is...

Saying goodbye to your heart.

Love is...

Learning not to fight
By never giving up the fight
Seeing through it all
By seeing past it all
Giving up everything you have
And everything you are
To find out who you really are
On the inside
Letting everything you are die
To become something else entirely
That is yourself
Because you only discover who you are
When you give yourself entirely
To someone else
Being stronger than you ever thought was possible
By allowing yourself to be more vulnerable than you ever thought was possible
Risking everything
And risking nothing
Because love is the only thing
That really matters
And it makes everything else matter
Because it makes nothing else matter
It takes you to the highest high
And the lowest low
And it makes you never want to feel again
While you long to feel again
To feel that touch
Deep inside
That makes everything ok
And takes away all the pain
Of this cruel, cruel world

Love is...

Freedom.

mike47
10-25-09, 03:38 PM
Love is not freedom it is a real prison in my experience ......:D:D .
You are literally attached to the person you love .
You constantly think about them .
Your life is aches and misery without them .

christa
10-25-09, 04:30 PM
i have never been in love, unless you count the love for a child...thats all I got, haha

Lori_7
10-25-09, 04:45 PM
Love is not freedom it is a real prison in my experience ......:D:D .
You are literally attached to the person you love .
You constantly think about them .
Your life is aches and misery without them .

I've pondered this point recently and decided its a selfish perspective.

mike47
10-25-09, 05:00 PM
i have never been in love, unless you count the love for a child...thats all I got, haha
What about the poor soul who fathered the child ?.
:D: .

christa
10-25-09, 05:07 PM
What about the poor soul who fathered the child ?.
:D: .

hahaa.. he can burn in hell for all i care... i was his 1night stand

mike47
10-25-09, 05:11 PM
hahaa.. he can burn in hell for all i care... i was his 1night stand
Silly me and I thought women hate one night stands.....:D:D .

christa
10-25-09, 10:08 PM
Silly me and I thought women hate one night stands.....:D:D .

at that time I didnt care to much for him, but his lies lead me to believe we WHERE dating the entire month untill he got what he wanted, then he was gone with the wind

edit:
we also have to make sure that he isnt anywhere near the towns I am close to. He has threatened us, but because I learned it from hs ex gf, who told me ALOT of things that where shocking.. I cant do anything about it.. he is in texas now thank god

darksidZz
10-26-09, 12:07 AM
My hearts a broken mess with nothing left but sorrows kiss
Laughing hard I fill the space that's never been touched
a bliss unknown to me follows through into circling motions of pain
a distraction for a moment but never for the loss I've born within

~ Nights End

Lori_7
10-27-09, 10:25 AM
your sun rose in my dark sky,
and brightened my world
so i could see beautiful things.

shone upon my frozen heart,
it's warmth melted me.
drip...drip...drip...onto fertile ground.

in my tears i saw rainbows
and the life that love brings
spring forth from dormant seeds of loneliness and despair.

your breath is the air that i breathe,
and together we will create
what will never be destroyed or replaced.

wayne100
04-04-10, 04:50 AM
I`ve just started feeling like this about a certain person it`s like when ever i`m around her theres a shift in my personality, when i was on holiday all i could think about was talking to her and how great it would be,i`d stand by her through anything, I`d help her if she had a problem and i just want to see her smile and when she smiles it just fills me up right where my heart is even if i`m just thinking about it. This feels like love for me

Captain Kremmen
04-04-10, 08:16 AM
@Wayne. I think you'll be fine. Your instincts are good. Choose carefully.

Yellow Jacket
04-08-10, 08:21 PM
You see. My Love turned into love. My joy and simplicity were transformed into an addiction, a need.


Would I be totally way off base in asking if you think it developed more into an infatuation? Or a possible obsession? Which isn't necesarrily a bad thing, but like her, some feel uncomfortable with it, others thrive on it.


That's why people say that love hurts.

Love hurts for other reasons. The deep seated love you have for your mate, partner, whatever, moves you to compassionate, empathatic pain when you see the other one suffer. For example, the one you love falls ill or is injured. The pain you feel for them, deep in your very core. That is the pain. Nothing you can do about it, nothing to stop it.

Yellow Jacket
04-08-10, 09:35 PM
Love for me is thinking of the other person, taking care of them, giving them their needs and wants. It's the emotional and physical. It's being swept away, losing your breath. It' s the little looks, little touches, be able to sit for hours comfortably and not say a word. Love is knowing what the other person is thinking or wants without asking. Love is being there through the tough times and the hard times. It's not only the feeling, it's the knowing as well. Knowing the other person recipocates the same in different ways, their own way.

Love is work, it doesn't come easy. The deep unfaltering, unconditional love takes time.
For me, all of those things wrapped up into one is love.

Ambrose Mason
05-06-10, 12:56 PM
I personally don't know what love is or is not as I can't say that I've ever been in it.

Invs89
05-29-10, 08:52 AM
One day I was in my 9th grade health class and we were talking about dating. My teacher said that it's not a good idea to talk about religion, politics, etc. on a first date. I and most everyone else agreed with that. Then I commented that if you want to marry someone that has a largely different political alignment than you that could be a problem. My teacher basically said that you can marry someone who doesn't have the same political opinions as you. I've never had a girlfriend but I think that if I were to marry I would want to be able to share and talk about anything with that person. do i have a valid argument here or am I dreaming and need to be woken up?

brennus
05-29-10, 01:58 PM
Nobody can force you
to love, it has to come from
within ones own heart

Algernon
06-14-10, 07:21 PM
For the first time, I think I am in love with the idea of someone, but I'm not sure if not I really need it.