Piercings....why?
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its art and freedom of expression in some cases.
Sometimes is rebellion or non-conforming personality.
Society seems to want everyone to wear a suit and tie, work behind a desk in a tall building, etc etc......clones, machines, whatever you want to call em.
asking someone why the get painful piercings or tatoos etc etc is the same as asking someone why they chose to wear a rediculous 3 piece suit all day that iches and is far from comfortable......
the suit may be comfortable to that person.....the piercings may be comfortable to the other person.....all perspective....all relative.
Sometimes is rebellion or non-conforming personality.
Society seems to want everyone to wear a suit and tie, work behind a desk in a tall building, etc etc......clones, machines, whatever you want to call em.
asking someone why the get painful piercings or tatoos etc etc is the same as asking someone why they chose to wear a rediculous 3 piece suit all day that iches and is far from comfortable......
the suit may be comfortable to that person.....the piercings may be comfortable to the other person.....all perspective....all relative.
Whilst in principle you're correct, and it may be non-conforming to society's ideals, the vast majority of people these days have piercings and tattoos, and consider a people a bit weird if they don't have them, so if you consider society to be majority ruling of the morality of such things you could be considered wrong, but if you consider it the ruling of the people in charge alone then yes it is a way of non-conforming with society, but it's also a way of conforming and banding together with those the same, those who don't have the power of changing the ideals. I guess you could see it as a way of conforming with the non-conformers.
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spidergoat
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Go have fun not drinking, smoking and having sex in your conservative Islamic utopia.
Another thing that's been happening a lot longer than the liberals have been around. You really need to learn these things before you make a fool of yourself.
I would hate to live under Muslim, Jewish, or Christian rule, for the fact.
I have nothing against drinking
However, things like piercings and tattoos are simply unwanted, and as I said show a MORALITY DECLINE in society (or do you not care?)
Similarily, go have fun with all the crime, crap, gays everywhere, drug dealers, slutty society that you seem to want.
Yes, but how long have they been accepted? How long have they been widespread in Western society?
Well for a start tattoos have been around and accepted for more than 2000 years, and they are not just a western thing either. Go away and learn some history.
I know they aren't just in the West, that's why I said in Western society
Secondly, not the type of tattoos that you see today......they were religious or ceremonial
And finally, piercings have been frowned upon for ages (excluding women) in the West
So I missed out the word society, I'm sure it makes all the difference.
Oh I see the religious or ceremonial ones are fine, so some definitions of these please, preferably after you've read up on the history so you know they aren't cultural at all. Oh and by the way modern ones are not exempt from either of these reasons.
They might have gone out of fashion for a while but that's about it, cultures change over time, and sometimes they return to some of their original ideas, unless you can somehow prove a direct link to liberalism 2000 years ago you should probably just give up now. Or do you just consider liberalism to mean without christianity?
Shall I be the first to ask you to conclusively prove that daring statement.
Look at the majority of types of people who get tattoos and piercings..... people with no morality who don't give a flying f about anything
I am curious too. I mean I only have one little tatoo but, I don't drink or get stoned (more then a couple times a yr lol) and don't go around committing any crimes.
Maybe you need to have a certain # of them to make you turn to that life? :shrug: lol
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You are correct.
I was going to hypothesize that all that started with ancient tribes in Africa (nose rings, neck rings) that showed maturity, accomplishments, societal standing, etc. I'm sure those traditions were passed down and eventually became decorations. A lot of people have tattoos, piercings, brandings to display their individuality.
That weak-ass arguement is the best you can come up with? Considering your idea of 'morality' and theirs is entirely different, I can only be fair and balanced if I go by those who commit crimes(and even then this is a long shot for you), so do you have statistics handy at all? Or is this a no?
It's about society and culture. Youth today and youth fifty years ago are VASTLY different...and in a bad way.