Дэйв, а почему Вы отделяете себя от Бога? Бог во всём, и в Вас тоже. Даже в Псалтире есть слова: "Вы - Боги, и сыновья Вышняго вси есть". Вера даёт вам право считать себя кем то большим, чем просто "навозом для будущих поколений". Так зачем же себя самоуничижать?
Good and Evil.
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DaveC426913
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I do not.
Why do you separate yourself from leprechauns?
Remember above, where Q said
Well, you're doing the same thing every believer does: it is called begging the question, more specifically known as assuming the conclusion in the premise.
Your statement assumes god is true. Yet you offer no objective evidence of this.
Leprechauns are in everything, including you. Why do you not accept them into your heart?
Pixie dust is in everything, including you. It will reveal it self to you if you wish hard enough.
I already have the right to consider myself whatever I want. I don't need permission. Ask yourself why you belittle yourself by needing permission.
I am disappointed in you. Not surprised, just disappointed. I knew it was coming; you telegraphed your ultimate agenda plenty enough that I knew you would get around to it.
It is as if every believer has a switch in their head that's connected to their priest or whoever. They talk rationally and intelligently for a while and then their priest says "That's enough of that!" and flips the switch.
And the believer stops thinking, and starts spouting their programming. "God is in everything. He will reveal himself if you just let him." without the slightest shame in its gaslighting condescension. All that schooling you took to learn how to think rationally, with evidence-based argument, and you just threw it away.
You are exactly the same as any other believer, you just pretended for longer than most.
Good-bye, Thinking-Olga; hello Robot-Olga.
On Ignore - :click:
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Повеселил. Я не оправдала Ваших ожиданий? А должна была?
Вы не верите, что Бог существует? Откройте Библию, или прочитайте молитву Отче Наш. Что вы увидели? "Бог есть сущий", т.е. существующий. Вы сомневаетесь в существовании Вселенной? Или в вашем собственном существовании? Ну, это Ваше право.
Christianity thrived in the soviet union, but it had to go behind closed doors and not out in public. With that part, I can agree it's a good idea.
You appear completely indoctrinated and most likely are. One does not need to be baptized in order to be indoctrinated.
Yeah, I don't but that.
Education and upbringing do indeed have a very strong influence on ones faith. When a person educates themselves on the world around them, they come to the realization that gods are not required for anything, that nature itself provides answers. Gods are irrelevant, hence they are a personal thingy, like leprechauns, ghosts and things that go bump in the night.
They educated themselves, something you should do.
Open Lord of the Rings, What do you see? Orcs, wizards, elves and hobbits existing. Do you doubt the existence of Middle Earth?
If God is in everything, then God is in nothing so that everything and nothing can be considered simply for what it is.
And there it is, the righteous, selfish indignation that the believer is better than everyone else, we are but dung to them, belittling ourselves beneath their jack boots.
No, that's what selfish, righteous religious assholes believe me to be.
Souls have never been shown to exist. Where is your evidence for the existence of souls?
Yes, you can dip your souvlaki into me.
You can feel good or feel bad. You can do something towards a healthy outcome or an unhealthy outcome. You can act in accord with your best self or against your best self. You can act in a way which harms others or a way which does not harm others. You can be a little bit bad or a lot good.
Of course,, there is no evidence for these things, only that which was conjured from ones imagination. The same goes for your God, no evidence, just a remote possibility of its existence somewhere in the universe. All of it are just words from books, myths and superstitions.
Along with hypocrisy, projection is one of the tools believers use often due to not having any thoughts of their own.
Anything conjured from your imagination has the possibility of existence, however miniscule, but also has very low probability, so if there is no evidence whatsoever, then it's not worth considering until some appears. That's why your God is not worth considering.
The mind of a ten year old.
Pinball1970
Valued Senior Member
@olga You started the thread by asking what good and evil is and now you are telling us. Yes?
On top of that you are referring to us non believers as "future manure."
Is this how believers behave with others?
Jesus said, "treat people they way you want to be treated."
I prefer that Jesus to Devils, hell and manure.
By the way, THE Sat-an also meant accuser or adversary. It was not an evil monster that lived in a lake of fire. Not until Daniel at least.
He was good mates with Yhwh, they played a funny game with Job with hilarious results.
On top of that you are referring to us non believers as "future manure."
Is this how believers behave with others?
Jesus said, "treat people they way you want to be treated."
I prefer that Jesus to Devils, hell and manure.
By the way, THE Sat-an also meant accuser or adversary. It was not an evil monster that lived in a lake of fire. Not until Daniel at least.
He was good mates with Yhwh, they played a funny game with Job with hilarious results.
Пин, я просто хочу быть объективной. Почему все атеисты такие обидчивые? Говорить правду, это означает проявлять добро, даже если эта правда вам не сильно нравится. Представьте, что ваш доктор будет вам говорить: "у тебя всё отлично, Пин! Пей, гуляй и веселись." Зная при этом, что вам необходимо лечение и изменение образа жизни. А другой доктор скажет: "ты пропадаешь, парень. Тебе нужно лечение". Какого доктора вы выберете?
Ваш дед, которого вы любили, тоже был атеистом? Кто послужил вам примером?