Good and Evil.

[ольга]

You miss my point. I go on the evidence.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. "That flower is pretty, therefore God exists" is not extraordinary evidence.

Now tell me why you haven't accepted Leprechauns into your heart. Do you just not want to believe in them?

Кто такие лепреконы? Расскажите мне о них.

 

[DaveC426913]

Who are leprechauns? Tell me about them.

Huh. No wonder you are bereft of Leprechauns in your life. You haven't even learned about them in Leprechaun Sunday school.

 

[ольга]

Huh. No wonder you are bereft of Leprechauns in your life. You haven't even learned about them in Leprechaun Sunday school.

Дэйв, а откуда Вы о них узнали? Из "ничего" ведь ничего не бывает? Человечество же знает только о том, что ему удалось "потрогать"?Откуда леприконы появились в Вашей голове?

 

[(Q)]

Dave, I wasn't even baptized as a baby like you. And I'm as much of a "doubting Thomas" as you are. I know why I believe. And I know that God reveals Himself to those who sincerely want it. You don't believe because you don't want it. And only you know why.

It's as if Olga's faith has been questioned for the first time as she offers only childish excuses. You believe because you are gullible and lack critical thinking skills. If you claim to "know" God reveals Himself, then you are either delusional or lying.

 

[ольга]

It's as if Olga's faith has been questioned for the first time as she offers only childish excuses. You believe because you are gullible and lack critical thinking skills. If you claim to "know" God reveals Himself, then you are either delusional or lying.

Откуда Вам это знать? Если зрячий расскажет слепому о радуге, тот тоже может ему сказать: "ты лжёшь, потому что я этого не вижу. Если бы радуга существовала, то её можно было бы понюхать, или потрогать".

 

[(Q)]

Откуда Вам это знать? Если зрячий расскажет слепому о радуге, тот тоже может ему сказать: "ты лжёшь, потому что я этого не вижу. Если бы радуга существовала, то её можно было бы понюхать, или потрогать".

Childish excuses. How dumb can you get.

 

[ольга]

Childish excuses. How dumb can you get.

Сударь, не старайтесь меня оскорбить - я отказываюсь вступать в интеллектуальную дуэль с безоружным человеком.

 

[(Q)]

Сударь, не старайтесь меня оскорбить - я отказываюсь вступать в интеллектуальную дуэль с безоружным человеком.

You offer only childish arguments and yet believe yourself to be an intellectual. Typical believer.

 

[DaveC426913]

Dave, where did you find out about them? Nothing comes from "nothing", right? Humanity only knows about what it managed to "touch"? Where did leprechauns come from in your head?

The same place as one finds out about God, of course.

 

[river]

Good and Evil , come from the environment in which you grew up in .

 

[kx000]

It's your claim that this devil guy lives in hell. That's not granted to be so (heck it's not even granted among the Abrahamic religions).

This is the Ethics, Morality and Justice forum, not the Religion forum. So God and Heaven and Hell don't get a free pass.

Anyway, OK, this is your personal belief: that good and evil are a war between a god you believe exists and an anti-god that you believe fights him.

Of what practical use is that construct? Does it help us mortal here on Earth know how to behave? To be good or evil? How? We can;t see them or hear from them; how do we learn anything?

I believe in a fallen angel, and humanity is an after thought. Something fell here and essentially I want it back.

 

[ольга]

The same place as one finds out about God, of course.

Дэйв, вроде бы уже доказали, что для появления ДНК случайным образом, не хватило бы всего времени существования Вселенной.

 

[ольга]

You offer only childish arguments and yet believe yourself to be an intellectual. Typical believer.

Не бывает "типичных верующих". Все верующие разные. Так же, как и атеисты.

 

[DaveC426913]

Dave, it seems like it has already been proven that the entire existence of the Universe would not have been enough for DNA to appear randomly.

It did not appear randomly. A typical Creationist blunder.

There are no "typical believers". All believers are different.

Then maybe be different. Think rationally. Check your facts.

 

[ольга]

It did not appear randomly. A typical Creationist blunder.

Не случайно? Значит, по замыслу?

 

[DaveC426913]

Not by chance? So, by design?

No. By evolution.

 

[DaveC426913]

Dave, it seems like it has already been proven that the entire existence of the Universe would not have been enough for DNA to appear randomly.

Who did this "proving" you speak of?

 

[ольга]

No. By evolution.

А в эволюции нет случайного отбора?

 

[DaveC426913]

Is there no random selection in evolution?

Random is a tricky word.
There is environmental and competitive selection for survival.

 

[ольга]

Who did this "proving" you speak of?

Энтони Флю, британский философ и учёный. Это же известная история.