Yes - if we are very old-fashioned and have trusted friends and relatives.
Without this social security basis, we are vulnerable to anything by anyone.
Being an insufferable bitch i.e. moderator rudeness.
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Yes - if we are very old-fashioned and have trusted friends and relatives.
Without this social security basis, we are vulnerable to anything by anyone.
The mistake your making is thinking that this is a democracy. This is not a democracy and you have just as much power as I do to reprimand an admin, as in none. If they take your reprimand seriously, it's because they felt like it, not because they had to. They don't have to explain anything if they do not want to.
If?
Show me a single person who has ever changed their opinion, or more importantly their view of themselves, after being insulted by someone they don't like or care nothing for; particularly when they have someone else giving them support when they're under attack.
That takes someone exceptional. I haven't met terribly many of those. Have you?
Hence the "cancer".
I agree with you, except for the "if". There is no "if". It has nothing to do with being old-fashioned. It has to do with being human. Just another defence mechanism.
They'll try to explain anyway. Some of them already have, or have done in the past and don't feel they need to do it again. This is another example of the same thing. The mods have decided that a ban is in order; either that, or they don't feel it is necessary to overturn one. Safety in conformity relies ultimately on scale, and that scale is, as it always has been, based on peers.
The only thing they need to do is to appeal to the common denominator and hope that denominator conforms to their own ideals.
This entire thread is two sides lobbing smoke grenades at each other.
Think so?
How many bans can one girl take?
How many times will she tell herself she doesn't care and then reappear after the dust has settled?
How many times will she tell her compadres it means nothing to her if she's welcome here or not?
How many times will you believe her when she says she's just here for shits and giggles?
How many times?
Serious fun.
All that is irrelevant. As long as she's interesting to read who cares why she's here?
The Marquis said:
Well there might be a loophole.
Basically speaking, the moral majority here at the forums who are anti-Gendanken have charmingly found a sympathetic ear in certain members of the mod-patrol, those who are also grudgingly anti-Gendanken—and lets not fool ourselves here, this has nothing to do with morals and decent behavior but everything to do with a sense of self-impotency and paralyzing bashfulness when confronted by Gendanken’s displeasure. In other words, this has everything to do with Gendanken beingGendanken—and mark my words, I swear to God that if any one of those pretty people had and felt the power of Gendanken’s unwonted articulation and acumen that they too would certainly not shy away from using them.
So, in a place where members pride themselves in championing various causes in human rights, I’m surprised that the right of self-integrity has not been touched upon—because, again, let’s not fool ourselves: Gendanken can not be expected to amputate her personality solely for the mob’s pleasure or displeasure. I mean, her message is clear: the same spirit that can climb mountains and encourage others to climb along with her is also the same spirit that can demolish molehills. You can’t get the one without the other. Human integrity.
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Nicely put, Ripley.
Enmos,
This thread is about Ben's hypocrisy. Nothing more.
Nothing more.
Your posts are always asking me how I can possibly hold my stance while Gendanken is being insulting.
Later, you turn the tables on me and ask how I can point at Ben's hypocrisy while being insulting.
These are logical fallacies, Enmos.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
They have no bearing on what Ben did.
None.
Is that simple enough for you?
But, I did.
Are you taking lessons from the Marquis now, Enmos? Can you see my heart of hearts?
Of course you can't.
As I've said about you time and time again. You don't read. You see exactly what you want to see.
It burns no calories.
It's the damned truth. You might think I'm trying to be insulting by wondering about your english skills, but that reply of yours that I quoted was complete nonsense. A bunch of random shit with no connection to anything that I actually wrote.
I think I see what you're doing. You're responding by clipping little bits and answering them. By the time you get to the next bit, you've already put the previous bit out of your mind? Is that it?
Not reading the whole post?
If that's not it, then I don't know what the hell is going on with you. Maybe a stroke or something.
Sounds familiar.
Been waiting to throw that back, eh?
Hurts?
Then, if you understood what I asked, then why didn't you answer?
If you had read my post, then you'd realize that this question came right after my brief attempt to correct your mispointed focus as to the 'snowflake' question.
Tyler Durden makes the snowflake an integral part of his philosophy.
That's why I referenced it.
You should know exactly what I'm trying to say because you've seen the movie, right?
So, tell me, what does Tyler Durden have to say about snowflakes?
Trying to goad, parrot?
Question: Is calling me 'tophat' insulting?
Is me calling you 'parrot' insulting?
Anyway.
Let's sink back a bit. I'll give you one more-ONE MORE-chance to get me.
That's it.
One more and I'm through with you.
Get it?
On the topic of insults.
If you had actually read this thread rather than perused your mental catalog of what it is I must surely by saying, then you'd have read that I do not stand on your side of the insulting line. I believe that the law should be more lax. That is my belief.
I don't think that insulting is as deadly as you apparently do.
I've been over this argument so many times before you even poked your head into this little forum that it's not funny.
Get it?
I'm not a hypocrite because I don't espouse or enforce the prosecution of the actions which I also participate in.
Get it?
Ben insults people.
Ben punishes people for insulting other people.
That is the conundrum.
All your other ponderings are strawmen and red herrings.
Hence, my initial response to you about logical fallacies.
You get an F in pointing them out.
Fedr808,
Teaching your grandmother to suck eggs?
I never demanded anything from the admin, did I?
Sam,
It's all a matter of convenience. Whatever serves the purpose at the time is insulting.
Hmm.
With the internet being the way it is?
Nah.
The problem of today is snowflakism.
Everybody's so fucking special and unique that they don't even need to try any more.
It's a right.
Hell, it's even in the Declaration of Independence and probably the Constitution of the U.S.
Signal,
Abolishing oneself would be tantamount to realizing that you are not some precious unique thing-in-itself and actually have to work your way through the world.
The Ultimate Authority, methinks, would be the opposite.
Typical dysfunctional family.
Ripley,
Yes, but to get that message one needs to read, eh?
That's the conundrum.
I've never failed to be astounded by the sheer number of people here who simply don't like to read.
The Marquis,
Sigh.
Do you even realize what you're revealing about yourself here?
It'd be sad if I liked you. Funny, either way.
I suppose that's your precious Shadenfreude. Funny-sad. More funny than sad.
Do you wear black eyeliner?
As to your whole 'analysis' or whatever you want to call it, you're worse at it than Wanderer ever was. Give it a rest.
As to this:
You really don't know just how boring you are, do you?
Why the hell would anybody talk about you?
Yeah. Ambiguous allusions are the far superior way to communicate, eh?
Gives you the defense of claiming that no one understands the greatness inside, yes?
Superstring.
How many roads must a man walk down... before he starts being a pussy goth?
The ban was over two days ago, genius.
This thread is about Ben's hypocrisy. Nothing more.
Nothing more.
Your posts are always asking me how I can possibly hold my stance while Gendanken is being insulting.
Later, you turn the tables on me and ask how I can point at Ben's hypocrisy while being insulting.
These are logical fallacies, Enmos.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
They have no bearing on what Ben did.
None.
Is that simple enough for you?
But, I did.
Are you taking lessons from the Marquis now, Enmos? Can you see my heart of hearts?
Of course you can't.
As I've said about you time and time again. You don't read. You see exactly what you want to see.
It burns no calories.
It's the damned truth. You might think I'm trying to be insulting by wondering about your english skills, but that reply of yours that I quoted was complete nonsense. A bunch of random shit with no connection to anything that I actually wrote.
I think I see what you're doing. You're responding by clipping little bits and answering them. By the time you get to the next bit, you've already put the previous bit out of your mind? Is that it?
Not reading the whole post?
If that's not it, then I don't know what the hell is going on with you. Maybe a stroke or something.
Sounds familiar.
Been waiting to throw that back, eh?
Hurts?
Then, if you understood what I asked, then why didn't you answer?
If you had read my post, then you'd realize that this question came right after my brief attempt to correct your mispointed focus as to the 'snowflake' question.
Tyler Durden makes the snowflake an integral part of his philosophy.
That's why I referenced it.
You should know exactly what I'm trying to say because you've seen the movie, right?
So, tell me, what does Tyler Durden have to say about snowflakes?
Trying to goad, parrot?
Question: Is calling me 'tophat' insulting?
Is me calling you 'parrot' insulting?
Anyway.
Let's sink back a bit. I'll give you one more-ONE MORE-chance to get me.
That's it.
One more and I'm through with you.
Get it?
On the topic of insults.
If you had actually read this thread rather than perused your mental catalog of what it is I must surely by saying, then you'd have read that I do not stand on your side of the insulting line. I believe that the law should be more lax. That is my belief.
I don't think that insulting is as deadly as you apparently do.
I've been over this argument so many times before you even poked your head into this little forum that it's not funny.
Get it?
I'm not a hypocrite because I don't espouse or enforce the prosecution of the actions which I also participate in.
Get it?
Ben insults people.
Ben punishes people for insulting other people.
That is the conundrum.
All your other ponderings are strawmen and red herrings.
Hence, my initial response to you about logical fallacies.
You get an F in pointing them out.
Fedr808,
Teaching your grandmother to suck eggs?
I never demanded anything from the admin, did I?
Sam,
It's all a matter of convenience. Whatever serves the purpose at the time is insulting.
Hmm.
With the internet being the way it is?
Nah.
The problem of today is snowflakism.
Everybody's so fucking special and unique that they don't even need to try any more.
It's a right.
Hell, it's even in the Declaration of Independence and probably the Constitution of the U.S.
Signal,
Abolishing oneself would be tantamount to realizing that you are not some precious unique thing-in-itself and actually have to work your way through the world.
The Ultimate Authority, methinks, would be the opposite.
Typical dysfunctional family.
Ripley,
Yes, but to get that message one needs to read, eh?
That's the conundrum.
I've never failed to be astounded by the sheer number of people here who simply don't like to read.
The Marquis,
Sigh.
Do you even realize what you're revealing about yourself here?
It'd be sad if I liked you. Funny, either way.
I suppose that's your precious Shadenfreude. Funny-sad. More funny than sad.
Do you wear black eyeliner?
As to your whole 'analysis' or whatever you want to call it, you're worse at it than Wanderer ever was. Give it a rest.
As to this:
You really don't know just how boring you are, do you?
Why the hell would anybody talk about you?
Yeah. Ambiguous allusions are the far superior way to communicate, eh?
Gives you the defense of claiming that no one understands the greatness inside, yes?
Superstring.
How many roads must a man walk down... before he starts being a pussy goth?
The ban was over two days ago, genius.
I have, plenty of times.
But then again, I usually had noone who would support me, so I didn't have much choice but to consider what I was being told.
My point is that when people do not have a secure social basis, they are more vulnerable to criticism from strangers.
I agree with Marquis here.
Even the sturdiest person has only so much social stamina.
They will anyways, I got some ridiculous warning from James about flaming Tiassa, right after T tore a strip off me in a thread that got closed.
The hypocrisy here runs deep within the mod team.
Sorry to hear about Gendy. Few here are as honest as she and probably reported her because of their own lack of morals. Sad, really.
But to work your way through the world, you have to believe you are that "precious unique thing-in-itself".
No.
You have to earn it.
Q,
True.
Nothing new.
The worst that I've heard of is the shit that happened to Lucy Snow. Warnings from posts from years ago?
The fuck?
True.
Nothing new.
The worst that I've heard of is the shit that happened to Lucy Snow. Warnings from posts from years ago?
The fuck?
An example.
Years ago, children, well-to-do I suppose, were not raised by their parents. They were raised by governesses. They were not really introduced to their parents until they reached 10-12 years old. The reason why is because they might die and why bother forging a strong bond with a child who is only going to fall prey to one of the myriad childhood illnesses.
They had to earn their selfhood by surviving childhood.
Then they would be welcomed into the bosom of the family.
These days we're all inculcated practically from birth just how special we are.
That crack-addicted bum trying to squeeze a quarter out of me on the way to work thinks he's a special snowflake. A unique gift to the world.
Bullshit.
Earn it.
I did not know that, sad indeed.
Meanwhile, this guy runs rampant through sciforums with absolutely nothing done:
http://www.sciforums.com/member.php?u=77640
Not the belief.
The fact.
You are nothing that is not earned.
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