I'm sure dem white folks he insulted will forgive him if they not too tired from workin'.
Please people, can't we just get along?
Aplogise for slavery?
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I'm sure dem white folks he insulted will forgive him if they not too tired from workin'.
Please people, can't we just get along?
Charles Manson is still awaiting an apology. What is taking so long?
Where is the love?
What a daft argument. That your parents shared with you their genetic code doesn't make you responsible for whatever else they did with it before you had a choice in such matters.
Or maybe it just does in your alternate universe where your genetic code isn't considered wealth passed on.
Daft.
Your natural bigotry assumes that I am not black.
Your natural bigotry assumes that I am not agreeable enough to be black.
Your natural bigotry assumes that I am too Independent to be black.
Your natural bigotry assumes that I am less black than you.
Your natural bigotry assumes that black people need empowerment by extorted apology instead of being empowered by natural ability.
And you presume to lecture me about spiteful, dodgy incompetence?
Of course you would.
That will happen when whites develop leaders that confront the problem of the high divorce rates.
Also, how and why do you expect black leaders to take on crime while at the same time demanding gun control in high crime communities?
Finally, poverty was not invented by black people, why should black people be expected to fix a system they did not invent?
Poverty exists, mainly because people want it to exist, and they don't care who it affects, black or white. Crime exists because people tend to be soft on crime, and this is blacks and whites.
Example is white collar crime, who is going to prosecute these crimes? Now if you want to focus on ONLY ghetto crime, then you are not really anti crime, you are anti ghetto crime.
Next you'll want to focus on ghetto tax evasion, but what difference does any of this make? It does not change the fact that most crime is commited by white people, simply because there are more white people in the USA.
So it's more like, if you are the boss/CEO you are above all laws and can commit any crimes you want, but if you are poor and in a ghetto, you have to be a model citizen and never commit a crime in your life else you'll get your 3 strikes.
Does this make sense? In my opinion it's a waste of time. The exception being violent crime which I think we should aggressively prosecute, the whole war on drugs is BS.
Your natural bigotry assumes that I am not black.
Your natural bigotry assumes that I am not agreeable enough to be black.
Your natural bigotry assumes that I am too Independent to be black.
Your natural bigotry assumes that I am less black than you.
Your natural bigotry assumes that black people need empowerment by extorted apology instead of being empowered by natural ability.
And you presume to lecture me about spiteful, dodgy incompetence?
Of course you would.
You are either human or not. Which side are you on?
The scourge of slavery and the exploitation of colonialism destroyed Africa and left it in a mess . How about cancelling Africas debt and making a gift of say $10 billion annually for the next 20 years to be invested in the continent to rebuild the continent into a more sustainable enviroment . Then America could place all foriegn aid into African American neighbourhoods and create through free education and empowerment a stable Black middle class and stable employed working class , where the Black community is independent and able to stand on its own feet . I agree aologies are superfluous action and money speak .
ya you can buy a lot of AK-47s with 10 billion a year. Not a bad idea.
Bullshit.
slavery has effected many people and many were slavers long before the U.S was around, maybe your own relatives were slave holders.
Anyone here know how many different countries used slaves who were not from Africa?
Anyone here know how many different countries used slaves from Africa?
I thought when I mentioned :
that readers would of realised I was talking Europe , I believe Europe should pay the $10 billion a year and increase African exports into the EU as repayment . I meant America take care of their 30 million citizens who are direct descendants of slavery .
How would the 'readers' understand you were talking about Europe when you only mentioned America?
30 million--that is an interesting number. When slavery was abolished how many stayed in America? all of them??? They did'nt go running back to Africa DID THEY?
Your insinuating that by using African slaves it hurt the African continent but what percentage of Africans were slaves? 2%
30 million--that is an interesting number. When slavery was abolished how many stayed in America? all of them??? They did'nt go running back to Africa DID THEY?
Your insinuating that by using African slaves it hurt the African continent but what percentage of Africans were slaves? 2%
Jeez werent there were African slaves in Arabia long before anyplace else?
Read this Brian:
http://afroamhistory.about.com/aod/slavery/a/slavery.htm
Read this Brian:
http://afroamhistory.about.com/aod/slavery/a/slavery.htm
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Uh, Mr. G?
You are spiteful, dodgy, and incompetent. For instance, you use the phrase "your natural bigotry assumes". In this case, "my natural bigotry" equals respecting your words. Such as:
My first advice is to wait through 140 years of insincere apologies and concerted efforts to lie about your place in history before demanding a sincere apology. To the other, though, I do wonder what positive effect you think your dishonesty can achieve.
To avoid showing my natural bigotry, shall I simply presume in the future that everything you write here is a lie intended to provoke off-topic, irrelevant discussions? Or are you just a dark-skinned racist trying to depict white people as finally achieving supremacy in at least one department, stupidity?
I'm willing to accept your plea of misguided artistic ambition, or some such, but don't bother trying to pretend you're honest.
Mr. G said:
You are spiteful, dodgy, and incompetent. For instance, you use the phrase "your natural bigotry assumes". In this case, "my natural bigotry" equals respecting your words. Such as:
Yeah. I sure as hell want a sincere apology from anyone/everyone who thinks I'm a racist just because my skin is beige-ish pink (aka: white) and because I'm directly related to my ancestors/not related to others of previous generations of "white" people whom I've never personally known or held sway over.
My first advice is to wait through 140 years of insincere apologies and concerted efforts to lie about your place in history before demanding a sincere apology. To the other, though, I do wonder what positive effect you think your dishonesty can achieve.
To avoid showing my natural bigotry, shall I simply presume in the future that everything you write here is a lie intended to provoke off-topic, irrelevant discussions? Or are you just a dark-skinned racist trying to depict white people as finally achieving supremacy in at least one department, stupidity?
Spiteful: Lying in order to assert a justification for moral outcry.
Dodgy: Being so unwilling to post with a shred of honesty.
Incompetent: Getting caught so damned easily that Helen Keller wouldn't need braille to follow the neon signs.
Dodgy: Being so unwilling to post with a shred of honesty.
Incompetent: Getting caught so damned easily that Helen Keller wouldn't need braille to follow the neon signs.
I'm willing to accept your plea of misguided artistic ambition, or some such, but don't bother trying to pretend you're honest.
Ganymede
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Most Republicans are racists. And this is just another example of their blatant bigotry. Guys like Buffalo never had Black friends growing up. He's never sit and had dinner with a Black Family. He's never spent the night with Black Family. So he has very little to go on. But he's probably one of the racists who going to say (I'm no racist, my best friend is black) Yeah SURE!
I'm so sorry I was involved with slavery, I am so very ashamed and feel terrible. I should not have used the slaves for my own pleasure and fantasy's, havine those 3 women together in bed with me was wrong I am so sorry about making the slaves err wait I wasn't even alive yet my bad
I am so sorry about making the slaves err wait I wasn't even alive yet my bad
Ganymede
Valued Senior Member
Alex, answer these questions for me, and you'll know why some Blacks demand an apology.
1) When the Slaves were freed what rights did they have?
2) How many years after they were freed did they earn the right to vote?
3) How many years after they were freed did they have the right to eat next to a white person?
4) How many years after they were freed could a Black Person marry a White Person without breaking the law?
What you're going to find my clueless friend is that many of these rights were earned in the last 60 years. Slaves may have been freed 200 years ago, but Jim Crowe Laws and segregation continued the legacy for many decades after. And it still carrys on today. Once you start to date outside of your race you'll see that not much has changed at all.
Because if they canceled Africas debt and made a gift of 10 billion annually, it would look bad, and it would risk saving Africa from destruction.
If the goal is to destroy the earth, why not start with Africa?
The only way your idealism makes sense, is if people actually care.
There were African slaves in Egpyt before there was a such thing as an Arab or Arabia. There were also Jewish slaves in Egypt, so your point is pointless.
Humans have always been brutal and self destructive, it's not going to change in a mere 5000 years, and it's not going to change until humans finally get their ultimate wish, extinction.
When extinction comes, finally the earth will be free from it's slavery.
None of that BS matters. Why? Because people don't care about black people. Why don't people care about black people? because people don't care about people.
It doesn't matter what race you are, our fate as a species is shared. If we don't care about the human race, we humans die out, the end. It wont matter which race dies last because the result is always the same due to the direction.
It's like shooting a gun towards a target, and that target being extinction. It does not matter what that bullet passes through before it hits the target, it's still going in the same direction and thus the same ultimate place in the end. So while humans fight each other, everyone loses, and the earth itself fades into oblivion.
As I see it, humans are too self destructive to survive as a species. Black, white, yellow, it makes no difference, humans are the same under the surface, and the same self destructive nature exists under all the various races.
The result? It's going to be the same no matter which race is in control because they all have the same behavior. If Europeans did not take over the world, some other race would have done the exact same thing, and we'd still be in the same situation we are in now. The difference in culture might have made a difference if any, but if we have the culture we have today, which is western and capitalist, I don't think it matters.
Slavery exists in all races. Murderers and rapists exist in all races. Serial killers exist in all races. People who don't care about people or the future, exist in all races, and to expect any sort of apology for slavery is as stupid as expecting a white person to apologize for Charles Mansons murders, or expecting a random white person to apologize for the holocaust, or expecting a man to apologize for all the rapes against women.
The men who don't rape, who don't murder, and who aren't nazi's, have no reason to apologize for slavery, nazism, or any of that. The fact that they aren't like this is better than any apology, and instead of stupid stuff like reparations, and apologies, you should seek friendship with people, and instead of asking them to apologize with money, ask them to share friendship as the best apology.
Since thats unlikely to happen, for whatever reason, it might be because the world is too racist, and that white individuals who arent racist are outnumbered by white individuals who are. Or it might be that too many black individuals are living in the 1800s, expecting to change the future by looking at the past.
If you want to change the future, forget the past and work on the future. If you want to cherish the misery of slavery, go ahead, and you can cherish it alone.
Do you think Europeans want to share stories about the religious wars of Europe, or the black plague? or the holocaust? There are plenty of stories to go around. The only thing we all learn when we share these stories is that the world is a fucked up place, filled with fucked up people, and it's been that way for thousands of years now, and will continue to be that way because thats just how the people like it.