I believe it is learned behavior, and quite likely, their first ''lesson'' was in watching how their dads treated their moms.
Yes and no.
There are a lot of stereotypes surrounding women and mothers in particular for children to be exposed to. It's not just how the father treats the mother in front of them. Kids are pushed into these gender roles and girls are often portrayed as being weak, need to be protected, etc. It all adds up.
I read something that the bible and it's entitlement declarations plays a part in domestic violence.
Religious texts represented the attitudes of the day.
In other words, the Bible was written by men, who viewed women as chattels and possessions. But we also forget one important thing..
It exists across all religions and in non religious societies and groups, even those from non Abrahamic religions.
For example, violence against women is a massive issue in many Asian countries. If people want to talk about "incel" culture, look at India as a prime example. The term "incel" is a fairly Western construct. Aside from being misogynistic, "incels" are also very
racist. Take out the word "incel" and you have the same thing.
If we look at how it's defined, that sense of entitlement, the view that women are commodities, that women owe men their bodies, etc,
then really, looking at "incels" is just a look at how men in the West refer to themselves.
Regardless of whether the term ‘incel’ is used in common parlance, India is no stranger to violence being meted out to women by men who feel slighted. For example, Swathi was killed with a machete by her stalker in a railway station in Chennai, Sreepriya was attacked by Rohit Kumar on her way to church; Kumar had been stalking her for a while and had professed his love for her shortly before slashing her face with a razor, Radhika Tanwar was shot to death by a man named Vijay, who she had rejected several times, and Riya Gautam was stabbed seven times by Adil after turning down his marriage proposal; he had been stalking her for a year and a half. The list of women killed or violently assaulted by snubbed men is a long one. These perpetrators too share the ideology of the incel, that it is their right to possess a woman if and when they so please.**
** There are embedded links in the article.
So I do not believe it is simply a Christian or religious issue.
It's a societal and cultural issue that exists across all cultures and in all societies.
Absolutely. However one must wonder .. could we see better behaviour if young folk were not given this entitelement BS from an early age .. it becomes ingrained.
All I suggest is that we could expect better if the notions of primative cultures were left where they belong. In the distant past.
Entitlement stems from the inability to recognise that women are human beings and have equal rights.
Wegs mentioned a member who would frequently comment how much he loves women, while arguing that he often comments about how women look, if they are pretty, etc (street harassment) - he sees it as a compliment and that women would smile at him, or say thank you. That this is not misogyny. My response is often along the lines of 'you say this to men too, right?'. What this person fails to recognise is that women will smile and say thank you because that is what we are taught to do, for our own safety and because that is what is expected of us.
This individual feels entitled to make such comments, because he feels it is
his right. That women have a human right to not have him do this does not enter into the equation for him. It's his right to do this, and by god he will do it and women like it as far as he is concerned.. He doesn't say it to men or random men he interacts with in his day to day life, because that'd be weird. But to him, it is not weird to say it to women. Because it's just a compliment. And she will smile and/or say thank you. So that means she must like it and he'll keep doing it because that's how it's always been.
It's not just young men. It stems across all ages and every single culture on our fair and somewhat hot planet..
And the BS from Hollywood...woman are just hucks of flesh.
Might be a good start to change the stereotype from a big breasted blonde to something less sexual and offering some indication that woman are actually people.
Or maybe not have a stereotype at all..
In this small country one woman is killed each week from an unhappy partner.one a week..you don't hear about it really, just one of those things...well make the trials and executions very public and expose the problem daily.
You get all this hand wringing over climate change a crisis in the future and yet domestic violence is not being stamped out.
Lamentable.
Well, both are problems that must be addressed.
It starts with education.
I just think it would be helpful that the bible said something to the effect that woman are not property, that they do not have to submit to anyone's will and in addition that man is part of the world and has no entitlement to hold domain over it as if it were all created for man alone.
It's not just the Bible though.
This isn't about religion. It's about culture and it is one of the issues that spans across all cultures.
You can put a preamble in the Bible about women not being property. But what about the billions of other people who are not Christian and/or who do not belong to an Abrahamic religion, but where this issue is also prevalent in their society?
What drives "incels" is everywhere. And it has nothing to do with sex or lack thereof, and everything to do with how every society and culture views women. And it's not just media. It spans every aspect of society.
Media is just an obvious example.
On a completely different note, are you okay and safe in regards to the fires on the East coast?
