Did Jews declare war on Germany in the 1930s?

Discussion in 'History' started by desi, Mar 5, 2011.

  1. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    So with regard to the OP, which is about the five thousandth rehash of some very old and very tired bigotry motivated nonsense from 1960s era neoNazis, the answers are "No" and "WTF?".
     
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  3. desi Valued Senior Member

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    This is the heart of the issue. If he was a wack job the people would have laughed at his asinine accusations. Instead, they took him AND HIS PARTY seriously and voted lots of them into office. The Germans did not just vote Hitler in. The voted in lots of Nazis.


    He did try to kick them out and many left. Eventually other countries stopped accepting them and they were put them in the camps.

    Jews control much, over 50%, of the banking industry as well as much of the media, yet they account for around 2% of the population. Vanity Fair had an article about that a few years back so Google it if you care. I guess if you like the way banking is going and the entertainment from the media its not so bad.

    Yet Jews and Muslims just can't seem to get along as neighbors. Maybe the whole world should follow their brotherly love example.

    Blaming Christianity is a popular cop out for many people when they want to deflect blame on their end.

    “I will give you my definition of a nation, and you can add the adjective ‘Jewish.’ A Nation is, in my mind, an historical group of men of a recognizable cohesion held together by a common enemy. Then, if you add to that the word ‘Jewish’ you have what I understand to be the Jewish nation.”

    —THEODOR HERZL.

    “Let us all recognize that we Jews are a distinct nationality of which every Jew, whatever his country, his station, or shade of belief, is necessarily a member.”

    —LOUIS D. BRANDEIS
    Justice of the United States Supreme Court.

    -Edit: Google searches are pretty good for refuting claims such as the one you made. Especially when such claims are patently false.
     
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  5. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    You're so right.
    Because, as we can all attest, not one whack-job, ever, in history has gathered a following, fame or power.
    Not one politician ever has risen to power unless he was completely without weird ideas. Even a single strange belief automatically and irrevocably ensures that a politician will not see office.
    The public, the world over, always has, and always will, see a crackpot for what he is well before it's too late.

    Edit: and, again as we all know, people going through hard times (economic depression, massive unemployment) don't look for scape goats and the easy way out by blaming someone. Anyone.
     
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  7. desi Valued Senior Member

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    If you can name somebody who did you can drop the sarcasm and state your point. I'm actually interested in seeing if you can name such an occurrence.
     
  8. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Who did what?
    Gain office while holding crackpot/ bigoted ideas?
    Gain fame and power?
    How many US politicians or leaders have risen to power on a declared platform of intolerance for a minority group?
    How many politicians consulted astrologers?
    Pick one or more of the above and apply as necessary to those below.

    Hitler
    Nick Griffin
    Marine Le Pen
    Reagan
    Nixon
    Kissinger...
    http://www.thenayshun.com/2010/09/08/exposing-5-of-the-most-bigoted-american-leaders-today


    And you maybe missed this: Edit: and, again as we all know, people going through hard times (economic depression, massive unemployment) don't look for scape goats and the easy way out by blaming someone. Anyone.

    Then again, maybe you're of the opinion that to gain office one must be free of bigotry/ crackpot ideas and any other possible flaw of human nature.
     
  9. quinnsong Valued Senior Member

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    Heil Hitler! There that make u feel better ! How anyone can be an apologist and worse think him genius is beyond belief! Ignorance is no excuse!
     
  10. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    I live in the Congressional district that has now elected Michelle Bachmann to Congress three times running - and she is testing the water for a Presidential bid.

    I watched Reagan get re-elected. I watched W get re-elected. I watched Sarah Palin kept out of the White House ascendancy only by the shock of economic collapse after possibly the least competent executive administration in US history, brought into power by her fan base.

    And the context of this nonsense, this election and re-election of asinine wackjobs, has been nothing like the pressure cooker Germany had become by 1930.
    He forbade them to take their stuff with them - they had to leave penniless, with their relatives left behind at risk and their possessions forfeit to the State.

    We're going to get the whole shmear, eventually, aren't we. The entire Jewish world conspiracy panoply of issues is going to come right out of your keyboard.

    Cesspool.
     
  11. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    yes jew are over represented in banking as well as some other professions. but its not do to some sort of sinister plot to take over the world. jews are over represented in banking because of the medievil christian bannening of charging of interest. jews over representing in media and entertainment is do to bigotry those were often the only professions open to them. No the history and logic and reason behind things before commenting on it.
     
  12. CptBork Robbing the Shalebridge Cradle Valued Senior Member

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    If Jews controlled over 50% of the world's banking industry, antisemites would be starving so badly they'd be eating their own arms and wouldn't have time to make stupid posts on the web. I'll bet even the Saudi royal family has more banking wealth than all the Jews of the world combined. If I'm wrong, then the obvious solution is for non-Jews to start their own banks and offer more competition, rather than grumbling about it and beating one's own children as an outlet for their discontent.

    As for the complaints about Jewish media control: they had a major role in building, establishing and maintaining Hollywood, so I recommend the Mel Gibsonites should go start their own movie industry, maybe in the Philippines or something like that, and then there wouldn't be a "problem". Hollywood itself was only started in the first place because Thomas Edison had a total monopoly on "moving pictures" in the eastern US, so blame him.

    Moral of the story: produce and compete, or get out of the f'in way and let ethnic minorities do what you're too lazy or stupid to do on your own.
     
  13. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    Okay, you guys, I am cutting loose on this asshole.

    First off, the opinion of one man, no matter how powerful the man, does not overturn common sense you moron.

    Man, you are a bigot. Guys, how long are we going to let this guy's diarrhea of the mouth and constipation of ideas run on for before we report him and get him banned?

    Desi, keep talking, someday you might say something intelligent.

    Millions and millions of people died because of Christianity, not just Jews. Entire religions and cultures were exterminated. No religion in the history of mankind has come close to the bloodthirt and destruction of Christianity.
     
  14. desi Valued Senior Member

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    A whole country full of rational people stood behind Hitler. To them that was common sense. Getting fussy at me for bringing it up reflects more on you than it does me or the thread.

    Talk like that should get you at least a warning in most forums.

    If you want to complain about Christianity then maybe you should go start a thread about that rather than try to hijack this thread with personal attacks and other impertinence.
     
  15. desi Valued Senior Member

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    I really don't care how much the Jews control now, other than to show that if they controlled so much when Hitler was accusing them of messing up Germany he might have had a point if they were indeed up to no good.

    I must admit I expected more from sciforums than knee jerk denial and personal attacks.
     
  16. desi Valued Senior Member

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    I see. When Jews apply for a job at Pizza Hut they are turned away so they go to banks and Hollywood where people feel bad for them and give them positions that pay millions of dollars. If that makes sense to you then run with it.
     
  17. desi Valued Senior Member

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    You compare the election of people like Ronald Reagan to that of Hitler. You are not making a good case.

    If the best you can do is compare the mindset of people who voted for Republicans to those who voted for Hitler, then I'll leave you with that illusion.
     
  18. desi Valued Senior Member

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    None of the people you mentioned blamed any other group of people for problems other than maybe the Soviet Union. Since at the time the Soviet Union was pointing NUKES at us you can't say it was an irrational bigotry.
     
  19. desi Valued Senior Member

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    I never said any such thing. I came here with a question. Instead of an answer I encounter hostility.:shrug:

    Do those of you ranting and raving at me even understand whether or not you are defending something you can speak intelligently about?

    Few people here even seem to know of the topic itself. I'm here for information, not to pick a fight with a bunch of ignorant albeit well meaning people.
     
  20. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    the past effects the present.
     
  21. quinnsong Valued Senior Member

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    Look Desi , I can assure you many of us on this forum know quite a lot about Hitler and WWII. IMO he and his minions were so monstrous and lacking of any kind of humanity, that he nor they deserve anyone playing devils advocate or giving he nor they the benefit of the doubt! Isnt this what you are doing here Desi?
     
  22. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    This is what I call "ambiguous bigotry" when the actions of a few [no matter how suspect] are conflated with the punishment of all.

    Its insensitive of <Jews> to <work in banks> because community sentiments are incapable of distinguishing between <Jews> and criminals

    You can substitute any group in the < >

    Its insensitive of <blacks> to <aggregate in groups> because community sentiments are incapable of distinguishing between <blacks> and criminals

    The ultimate point is that somehow the irrationality of people should be pandered to because they cannot think without prejudice.
     
  23. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    <what the hell are you on about?>
     

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