Atheism & Theism...A Common Denominator

if there's only one person in the entire world, and that person picks up a rock off the ground and examines it, is that evidence that rocks exist? or does it require another person to be present, and see the rock, for the rock to exist?

i would venture to say that the rock itself was plenty evidence to the person who picked it up and examined it, that rocks do indeed exist.

what if there were no people?! would rocks exist? no one would know right?

 

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A rock is itself evidence of rocks. Even if someone else isn't present, the rock would theoretically convince another person of the existence of rocks.

What if you knew about rocks, but lived on a planet without them, full of people who had never seen one? Without an actual rock, how would you convince them rocks exist? You could tell them about it, and maybe they would believe you, but that isn't proof.

 

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That's actually not entirely true. Atheists do have evidence that any human claim of god is indeed false. What they don't have evidence for is the non-existence of life that we might consider god-like; however, at present there is no reason to think it's even a possibility.

 

well there you go!! god himself is the evidence!! so why the hell are people always bugging me for it?????

 

So show me.

 

The rock could pay you a visit. Then you could convince people that the rock is everywhere, all you have to do is look.

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that was a joke right? ha, ha! that was funny. :bugeye:

 

YES. YES. YES. by george...

 

I meant there is lack of evidence for a god, ergo the atheist claim.

 

That would work, as long as the visit wasn't only in your mind.

 

It’s amazing to me the number of people who don’t care if they fill their minds with rubbish. Then they expect people to believe their rubbish is worthy as evidence.

 

Right. Like an imaginary invisible friend in the sky...

 

Intelligent folks have spent their lives using scientific methods to replace fiction or myth with facts. However, plenty of people would rather have the fiction or myth than the facts.

 

Correct. These people are called insane.

 

I would withhold judgement against them. I can't deny their personal experience, but they can't really expect me to believe it. I expect that if I had experienced the same things, I would come to different conclusions. In fact, I have experienced Gods on certain occasions, but I do not believe they were anything other than constructions of my own mind.

 

That imaginary friend in the sky has many victims. History has proven that the friend is not as trustworthy as has been bragged.

 

Can you elaborate ?

 

The imaginary cannot be responsible for anything beyond the delusions of the mind...

 

Well, I have had many experiences too. I came to the personal conclusion the God people talk about is actually a machine.

Edit: I'm a machinist and I've worked with computerized machines most of my adult life. It functions just like a machine.