Why is it selfish to not want children?

Varda said:
I really don't understand why having children is so often accused of being selfish.
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Is there any other reason ? No one asked you to have kids.. nor did the kids themselves.

Varda said:
Out of all possible interests, hobbies, careers, occupations, etc, raising a child is probably one of the most consuming and selfless ones, AND it is an investment for the future of earth.
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Alright, I see. You are kidding!

Varda said:
So, seriously people, you guys talking about the overpopulated earth shut up and make some quality babies already.
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Shut up!
 
Make me have a baby, mofo. Come on. What are you gonna do? Hold me down and artificially inseminate me?

To the rest of the forum: excuse this childish last, I couldn't resist...:D

Nah, I'll leave it to you to make some quality babies. Any baby of mine would likely turn out very damaged.
 
Enmos said:
Is there any other reason ? No one asked you to have kids.. nor did the kids themselves.
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Yes, there is. It is perfectly logical.
You spend your entire life building your intellect. Eventually you have to allow society to profit from that work.
It's like when you work at a company, and before you leave you have to train someone to take your place.
I don't know why is it so difficult to understand.

Alright, I see. You are kidding!
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I am not kidding at all.

Shut the fuck up!
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Listen sally. We're already being taken over by second grade humans. Out of a hundred people in their 20s today, how many can actually spark an interesting conversation? All people want to do is to drink and fuck and watch tv. We're doomed.

But not if I can help it. My children are going to be formers of opinion. They are going to influence people around them. They are going to lead (if they so wish) because they will be fully equipped. And they will make children too. And many generations from now the world is going to be a better place because of them.

So if you think that I'm going to repeatedly put myself through 9 months of emotional instability, nausea, cramps, no drinking, swelling, seeing my firm plump sexy body fall apart, only to go through years of not sleeping well, not having time for myself, cleaning soft shit off someone's ass, having my nipples shredded, being forced into a regular schedule, not being able to travel, only to eventually have my feelings for these creatures to be deemed sappy and to be told to leave them alone and let them go away to leave their lives, just because I want to have a smart little pet, you are completely wrong. And if you still think that my intentions are selfish, I think this discussion is over, as we probably are never going to reach common ground.
 
Varda said:
Yes, there is. It is perfectly logical.
You spend your entire life building your intellect. Eventually you have to allow society to profit from that work.
It's like when you work at a company, and before you leave you have to train someone to take your place.
I don't know why is it so difficult to understand.



I am not kidding at all.



Listen sally. We're already being taken over by second grade humans. Out of a hundred people in their 20s today, how many can actually spark an interesting conversation? All people want to do is to drink and fuck and watch tv. We're doomed.

But not if I can help it. My children are going to be formers of opinion. They are going to influence people around them. They are going to lead (if they so wish) because they will be fully equipped. And they will make children too. And many generations from now the world is going to be a better place because of them.

So if you think that I'm going to repeatedly put myself through 9 months of emotional instability, nausea, cramps, no drinking, swelling, seeing my firm plump sexy body fall apart, only to go through years of not sleeping well, not having time for myself, cleaning soft shit off someone's ass, having my nipples shredded, being forced into a regular schedule, not being able to travel, only to eventually have my feelings for these creatures to be deemed sappy and to be told to leave them alone and let them go away to leave their lives, just because I want to have a smart little pet, you are completely wrong. And if you still think that my intentions are selfish, I think this discussion is over, as we probably are never going to reach common ground.
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Haha! Varda.. reread your own post and then tell me again that it's not for selfish reasons :D
 
Enmos, please be direct. Extract from my posts the parts which you think constitute selfish intentions, and then we can talk about that.
 
Varda said:
I really don't understand why having children is so often accused of being selfish.
Out of all possible interests, hobbies, careers, occupations, etc, raising a child is probably one of the most consuming and selfless ones, AND it is an investment for the future of earth.

So, seriously people, you guys talking about the overpopulated earth shut the fuck up and make some fucking quality babies already.
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I agree with you. I think having children is unselfish and should be thought of as an investment when parents do all they can to raise mentally sound, intelligent, responsible, self-aware human beings who engage in the world for positive change. You are also correct that its the most consuming. Having children is only selfish when people have children on a whim without having any good parenting skills nor anything of value to pass on (and I'm not referring to financial inheritance).

"It's like when you work at a company, and before you leave you have to train someone to take your place."

Well put. To allow a child to benefit from your education and wisdom.
 
Varda said:
Enmos, please be direct. Extract from my posts the parts which you think constitute selfish intentions, and then we can talk about that.
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You want you kids to be better and to lead the morons, that's a wish YOU have.
 
It is not selfish to want to have children b/c some adults are not meant to be parents.

And I thought that crazy whacked fucked in the head tnerb was banned but I see it has posts.
 
Nevermind, right after I posted my comment, I thought that maybe his post was B4 it she got banned? Or is Tnerb a he? I don't know.
 
oK Lucy an Varda... for the betterment of the human race... the people wit higher IQs shud start havin mor kids than the lower iq people... but how about race... which race has the highest iq.???
 
Enmos said:
You want you kids to be better and to lead the morons, that's a wish YOU have.
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You are being ridiculous.
I am sure I am going to be proud of my children rather they choose to become leaders or not, but that is entirely not the point at all.
The point is that mankind is going in a bad direction because of all the tards out there, and it's up to the people with a bit of conscience to fix that by producing quality people.

Hence, my inclinations are strongly humanistic.
 
cluelusshusbund said:
oK Lucy an Varda... for the betterment of the human race... the people wit higher IQs shud start havin mor kids than the lower iq people... but how about race... which race has the highest iq.???
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That is utterly irrelevant.

What you need to realize is that the poor ignorant fucks all around us don't give a second of their time to pondering on the overpopulation of the earth, or the starvation in africa, or the impending doom of civilization. They are fucking, making babies, and then fucking some more and making more babies.
And (generalizing, since all odds play in favor of) these babies are going to be poor ignorant fucks as well.

So since all the educated people have decided that having children is selfish, because there is too many people in the world, they are declaring the battle lost and allowing our society to disintegrate.
 
Originally Posted by cluelusshusbund
oK Lucy an Varda... for the betterment of the human race... the people wit higher IQs shud start havin mor kids than the lower iq people... but how about race... which race has the highest iq.???

Lucysnow said:
Its not about race nor iq or do you have a problem reading posts.
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Oops... egge on my face for takin the issue to the iq level.... but answr me this:::

Do you thank that on average... the iq of the "quality" babys from such women as you an Varda woud be higher than the babys from the "stupid" women Varda speeks of... the women who are drawin welfare checks an breedin success out of the species.???
 
You can't tell what the babies IQ is going to be. But you can be sure that my children are going to be more well educated than hers.
 
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