Dave : Einstein relativity predicts wormholes.
Mathematically .
But not physically . Space can not be bent into wormholes . Practically . Space can not be bent period .
The Need for a much Faster Propulsion than rockets .
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Mathematically .
But not physically . Space can not be bent into wormholes . Practically . Space can not be bent period .
Neither is antigravity.
Practically spacetime IS bent. Astronomers see this every day.
DaveC426913
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No that is Madonna in the dark.
;-)
Pinball1970
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Dont forget the Flux capacitor
Ken Fabian
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And I thought successful self supporting - profitable - space enterprises using real technologies are unrealistic and undeserving of the excessive optimism and hype; but with imaginary technologies the barriers are overcome?
Asteroid mining seems like one of the few objectives beyond near Earth space (communications and Earth observation) that have real profit potential - there really are valuable metals in vast quantities, the best opportunity we've found IMO, yet remains stubbornly uneconomic; moon, Mars for mining or colonies are much harder.
I also like to point out when "mine the asteroid belt" comes up... there are asteroids a lot closer (in distance and in delta-v), including in Earth crossing orbits with excellent solar power resources; thinking we have to go to the Asteroid belt to find asteroids (ie not thinking, ie assuming wrongly) isn't a good start to discussing how we might enable asteroid mining
Asteroid mining seems like one of the few objectives beyond near Earth space (communications and Earth observation) that have real profit potential - there really are valuable metals in vast quantities, the best opportunity we've found IMO, yet remains stubbornly uneconomic; moon, Mars for mining or colonies are much harder.
I also like to point out when "mine the asteroid belt" comes up... there are asteroids a lot closer (in distance and in delta-v), including in Earth crossing orbits with excellent solar power resources; thinking we have to go to the Asteroid belt to find asteroids (ie not thinking, ie assuming wrongly) isn't a good start to discussing how we might enable asteroid mining
Then, why use it as a propulsion system? Do you even know what anti-gravity means?
If that were true, why are there black holes?
No, it's not.
DaveC426913
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Oh I'm sure somebody somewhere has got some sketches in a notebook. It's useless trying to argue an indefinable though. I mean, it's not like we can prove there isn't a guy with a bank of batteries and a block of osmium in his barn.
River will believe what he believes - evidence or no - go check out what he believes over in the UAPs thread (don't).
I'm wondering if river knows what he thinks he knows. Anti-gravity is against or opposite gravity, so a propulsion system has to have something to do with gravity. If not, then anything that can "easily overcome" gravity can be considered anti-gravity, including rockets. That's why I don't think anyone is actually researching it, especially considering nobody even knows what gravity is or how it works.
DaveC426913
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River thinks gravity is a side-effect of rotation. He thinks (and has asserted to anyone within earshot) that planets and moons have gravity directly proportional to their axial rotation - no rotation = no gravity.
So, no. River is worse than ignorant; he actively embraces nonsense.
You can see even his own ideas are self-contradictory (unless his imaginary team of anti-gravity researchers are in a giant lab somewhere juggling planets...)
That's completely insane considering one can simply look and compare any sets of planets or moons rotations and gravity. Earth and the moon for example.
DaveC426913
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River is ... not very good at facts.
So I made this graph to help him.
In fact, I started a thread on it just for him. River has ... chosen not to comment on the matter as-yet.
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Pinball1970
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There has been some silly claims in a couple of UFO Documentaries I have seen regarding anti gravity.
Claims, regarding, "impossible manoeuvres" of aircraft that must be using anti gravity and therefore alien or at the least proof the US government is hiding this technology.
Dark Energy you could probably say is acting like anti gravity but since no one knows what that is, where it came from, how it works or more recently whether it is constant, we can assume the technology is way behind the theory and the theory is slim to none hence "dark."
Claims, regarding, "impossible manoeuvres" of aircraft that must be using anti gravity and therefore alien or at the least proof the US government is hiding this technology.
Dark Energy you could probably say is acting like anti gravity but since no one knows what that is, where it came from, how it works or more recently whether it is constant, we can assume the technology is way behind the theory and the theory is slim to none hence "dark."
Anti-gravity propulsion research is going on right now . APEC on youtube . Watch a video or two . Listen to their research that is on going .
Look rockets are old technology . We need to find quicker and faster propulsion systems .
Ion for example takes weeks , if not longer to get speed and the same length of time to slow down .
It takes a quicker and faster propulsion systems , which can slow down faster , and reach faster speeds quicker ; beyond rockets and Ion tech. , to reasonably explore our solar system .
Look rockets are old technology . We need to find quicker and faster propulsion systems .
Ion for example takes weeks , if not longer to get speed and the same length of time to slow down .
It takes a quicker and faster propulsion systems , which can slow down faster , and reach faster speeds quicker ; beyond rockets and Ion tech. , to reasonably explore our solar system .
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Pinball1970
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No it isn't.
Research is via peer reviewed published literature, not unqualified YouTube posters.
Open your mind a bit .
One researcher is from NASA .
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It's complete baloney, the guy admitted they wanted to build technology just like the UFO's they see on videos. Bozos.