Let Freedom Ring Like a Gunshot

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tiassa, Jan 24, 2023.

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It's the [(expletive)] guns.

Poll closed Feb 28, 2023.
  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Freedom, motherf'er! I got my Second Amendment locked and loaded!

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  1. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    Reiterating the point of your poor reading comprehension is not the sick burn you think it is.
     
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  3. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    No, really? That reminds me an of anime...
     
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  5. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    Senseless Endless

    A lede out of Texas:

    A TCU student who was killed early Friday in the West 7th district was approached on the street and shot three times by a man who didn't know him and who couldn't give detectives a clear reason why he did it, according to Fort Worth police.

    The victim's family and university officials identified him as 21-year-old TCU junior Wes Smith, from Germantown, Tennessee.


    (Ramos↱)

    The confessed killer's name is Matthew Purdy, and he has a record for aggravated robbery; it is not yet known where he obtained the gun, which police left on his person long enough for him to try to dissassemble the weapon while in the police car. The Star-Telegram report explains:

    The homicide detective who interviewed Purdy said that he saw something that appeared to be fresh blood on the suspect's backpack, according to the affidavit. The detective said Purdy admitted shooting Smith three times — once in the stomach, once in the shoulder and finally in the back of the head after the victim was on the ground. Purdy told police he shot Smith in the head "because he wanted to make sure he was dead," the affidavit said.

    Activist Shannon Watts↱ calls it "the logical outcome to of Texas's lax gun laws", and, sure, it's a logical, predictable outcome, but neither is it impossible that this might happen somewhere with slightly less lax gun laws.

    Still, somewhere between the politics of firearms in these United States and, say, a Lustbader novel, I confess I just don't ever expect to hear police in Texas tell me the suspect said he slit the victim's throat with the edge of a hotel notepad page in order to make sure he was dead.

    Let freedom ring like a gunshot. At some point, "it's the goddamn motherfucking guns"↑ is "actually a fairly straightforward summary"↑.
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    Notes:

    @shannonrwatts. "The logical outcome to of Texas’s lax gun laws: Wes Smith, 21, a TCU student from Tennessee, was standing on a Forth Worth sidewalk when he was shot to death by another 21-year-old who didn’t know Smith and couldn’t explain to police why he shot him." Twitter. 3 September 2023. Twitter.com. 3 September 2023. https://bit.ly/3svZjFy

    Ramos, Harriet. "TCU student killed in Fort Worth West 7th area by stranger who couldn’t say why: police". Fort Worth Star-Telegram. 2 September 2023. Star-Telegram.com. 3 September 2023. https://bit.ly/3PycUFH

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    Click to rile 'em.
     
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  7. Pinball1970 Registered Senior Member

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    Americans to be convinced they do not need guns.
    Hard to do if criminals are running round with them.
    Solution? Restrict the use and access to them.
    It sounds simple but never seems to happen.
    Despite mass shooting after mass shooting.
     
  8. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    A Hero's Welcome: Pia Guerra, 16 February 2018
    for Aaron Feis (Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, Parkland, Florida)

    Devastation:

    There have now been 501 mass shootings in the U.S. this year.

    Driving the news: A shooting that wounded four people in Denver, Colorado, on Saturday night marked the country's 500th mass shooting in 2023, according to the Gun Violence Archive.

    • Hours later, that increased to 501 mass shootings after one person died and five others were wounded in El Paso, Texas, early Sunday.​

    By the numbers: Just five years ago, the country had never experienced 500 mass shootings in one year ....


    (Rubin↱)

    Sorry if I'm just not so worried about ufos, these days. The planet is on fire, Nazis run amok, and then there's this: We peaked in '21, at 689 mass shootings, but the first time we crossed five hundred, it happened in October, 2020. Frankly, my next benchmark is 730, the equivalent of two a day.

    It is hard to imagine our reaction if we lost this many people, in this many incidents, abroad.
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    Rubin, April. "U.S. surpasses 500 mass shootings in 2023". Axios. 17 September 2023. Axios.com. 18 September 2023. https://bit.ly/3t1GWZy
     
  9. foghorn Valued Senior Member

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    In reply to Tiassa’s off-topic remark about ufos in Tiassa’s own post about guns.
    Falling blog readership? Jealous of others here getting attention?
    Have you considered a political blogging site?
    Can't you create a sock or two to read your blogs, and even reply?

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  10. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    Guns don't kill people. It's those pesky little bullets that leave all of the holes out of which the blood flows.
    ok
    meanwhile (I normally avoid listening to politicians because on a good day what they say is meaningless, and on most days I find their pandering banter to be damned annoying.)(reminds me of "the perfect country and western song", must have prison, beer, pickup trucks, momma, trains, etc...)
    Ok that being said:
    The other day, I found myself listening to Biden as he said that no one needs a 50 round magazine for deer hunting.
    No where in the second amendment is deer hunting mentioned.
    So
    We don't have the right to keep and bear arms exclusively for deer hunting, nor duck hunting, nor rabbit hunting, etc...etc...
    We do, however have the right as protected by the second amendment for killing politicians who would be dictators who would trash our constitution and usurp our rights.
    and, for that;
    perhaps a 50 round magazine would be insufficient.

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    In the next chapter, we should consider the possibility of drone warfare.
     
  11. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    As the well-regulated militia does not require anyone to actually train, gun control is how we regulate the militia.

    Hey, do you ever think the NRA will stand up for the right to bear laptop computers?
     
  12. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    No where in the second amendment are 50 round magazines, atomic weapons, tanks of uranium hexaflouride, or weaponized anthrax mentioned.

    Doesn't mean they should all be legal for your neigbor to own.
    One of the reasons I laugh at republican gun supporters is that they claim that they need their guns to overthrow evil politicians, and so they vote republican so they can always do that.

    Then republicans ban guns at their rallies. And all those gun supporters never notice their hypocrisy.
     
  13. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    Aye. That. More than I can explain; it's even part of the epistemic closure that shepherds Republican dysfunction.
     
  14. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    It was youth night at the bowling alley. At the bar and grill, grown-ups came to cornhole.

    For one registered sex offender, this time it was personal.

    Something about the fucking guns goes here.

    Update: Correction ― Apparently, early reports pertaining to a registered sex offender are inaccurate, and the person of interest is a former Marine with the same name, a history of domestic violence, and, according to determined chatter, psychiatric disruption. And while this Robert Card may also have a sex offense in his history, it is impossible at this time to separate that claim from the early chatter identifying the other Robert Card.)
     
  15. ThazzarBaal Registered Senior Member

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    Can any nation securely ban guns and remain secure?

    I understand establishing peaceful relations, but ... We have enemies. Every nation has enemies. Do anti gun proponents consider them or do they just not consider us?
     
  16. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Of course. There are several countries in the world that ban all guns and have kept their borders secure.

    However, since no one is proposing that, it's sort of a silly thing to question.
     
  17. ThazzarBaal Registered Senior Member

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    Proposing what? National defense is national defense. Hunting is hunting. Guns can be very useful. It's a tragedy that they are often abused by people. People can be dangerous. People can be safe. People can be enemies. People can be friends. People matter. Guns do too .
     
  18. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Banning all guns.
     
  19. ThazzarBaal Registered Senior Member

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    Which are proposed to be banned?
     
  20. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    No—

    —you don't get to do this.

    We're not wasting our time on this.
     
  21. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Not interested in playing your game.

    If you have no coherent argument, just say so.
     
  22. ThazzarBaal Registered Senior Member

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    Fully auto or semi auto, or just assault type rifles? If assault type, which type?
     
  23. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    What do YOU want to ban? Let's start with that, since no one else here wants to ban all guns as you claimed.
     

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