Bells
Staff member
It will always be biased because of the history of a patriarchy based society that will continue to underline any system they adopt.When the USA works out how to apply a true merit based system with out prejudice then perhaps it might work out well...
Australia also has a merit based system. Do you think it is fair and just?
Why you keep pushing this in this thread of all places, defies belief. The "merit based" system literally protects men, predominately white men. Why do you think the men's rights movement keep crowing about it so much and keep demanding it be kept in place when any notion of women's rights is brought up? Are you that blind to what goes on around you that you haven't noticed?
Not only do you think a "pure merit" based system is better (whatever that means, since that is what we are meant to have now), you decide to add a Confucian angle that has historically and presently denied women their rights and instead, forced a social ideal upon them about what their role should be because they are women.
Talk about misogyny!
I am not the one resisting the obvious.Why are you resisting the obvious?
You, on the other hand, troll by making up this utter rubbish in your head and try to pass it off as fact and when challenged, try to claim it's your own personal opinion while repeating the same rubbish. Do you even understand what a Confucian meritocracy even is? Or is this another case of you doing 50 years of research (*chortle*) and "personal experience" where you have nothing to show for it but your own perverse imaginings?
And now a dose of reality..Perhaps have read of Iceland's relative success...
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/11/why-iceland-ranks-first-gender-equality/
it might lift your hopes a little...
Wages in Iceland:
In Iceland women are paid about 18% less than their male counterparts, if working in the same job with the same level of experience; for comparison, the average European wage gap is 16.2%.[12] Excluding ranking, position, and hours worked, the average annual income for women is 28% less than men.[45] In rural areas, the pay gap is generally larger.[41] At the current rate,[49] women will not experience equal pay until 2068.[49] The Icelandic government has said it aims to close the gender pay gap in Iceland by 2022.[50]
Sexism, gender based violence in Iceland:
According to a new study, around 80% of women in Parliament are exposed to gender-based violence. In May, the study surveyed 33 women who are working in or have recently quit Parliament, with 25 women responding. The results of the study are presented in a new book by Dr. Haukur Arnþórsson, which was released on October 18.
The study finds that about 80% of Icelandic women in Parliament have been exposed to psychological violence, and 28% have been subjected to sexual violence. Additionally, 24% reported physical abuse, and 20.8% said they had experienced economic violence. Economic violence occurs when women are denied terms of employment or facilities to which their position should entitle them, or when their property is damaged.
The study finds that about 80% of Icelandic women in Parliament have been exposed to psychological violence, and 28% have been subjected to sexual violence. Additionally, 24% reported physical abuse, and 20.8% said they had experienced economic violence. Economic violence occurs when women are denied terms of employment or facilities to which their position should entitle them, or when their property is damaged.
Do you think this is a relative success?
Male colleagues interrupt me constantly. Not just me. I will never forget the time my office was visited by a high-ranking official from an important partner company, who, after being interrupted by one of my male coworkers repeatedly, leaned over to me and whispered, “Good God! I can’t get a word in edgewise!” Once I told a coworker that I would be working with him on a project abroad, to which he responded, “Are you coming along to get us coffee?” Another time I walked to the coffee machine in my socks (like a lot of people do) and one of the old men at my work asked me if I was planning to start dancing on the table. And then there is the time I was giving a colleague critical feedback and was interrupted by my colleague who said, “Don’t listen to her. She is just being difficult. She is so hard to handle when it is that time of the month.” I was so shocked, I couldn’t speak. What year is it again? Did I just spontaneously teleport into a ‘Mad Men’ episode? Where I am from, people get sued for saying shit like that.
I recently attended a founding meeting for an Icelandic association of women in science. The organisers were unsure how many people would show, but they should not have worried. I estimate we were 150-200 women, who were determined to take two hours out of our busy Thursday nights to attend to what we all saw as an important issue. The subsequent lectures were fascinating. And disturbing. Women working in scientific fields in Iceland, as with other disciplines in other places, are grossly underrepresented in leadership roles. While roughly 60% of science undergrads are women, the number of female professors in the field is more like 26%. The gender ratio in science and engineering is abysmal. At one point, a presenter asked us to think of the reason why we were there. It occurred to me that all the women sitting next to me likely had a collection of nasty stories similar to mine, bubbling under their skin. It made me angry.
I recently attended a founding meeting for an Icelandic association of women in science. The organisers were unsure how many people would show, but they should not have worried. I estimate we were 150-200 women, who were determined to take two hours out of our busy Thursday nights to attend to what we all saw as an important issue. The subsequent lectures were fascinating. And disturbing. Women working in scientific fields in Iceland, as with other disciplines in other places, are grossly underrepresented in leadership roles. While roughly 60% of science undergrads are women, the number of female professors in the field is more like 26%. The gender ratio in science and engineering is abysmal. At one point, a presenter asked us to think of the reason why we were there. It occurred to me that all the women sitting next to me likely had a collection of nasty stories similar to mine, bubbling under their skin. It made me angry.