No Fetus. Nobody should be a wanker and harass someone outside this forum (harassing inside is apparently allowed).
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ya no one should, but that does not mean they won't. If he did not want to take precautions because he was blind by pride that his fault.
Explain how it is a reason, for at this point for someone perpetually in votes for moderators, I see you lacking. There is NO reason for a member to be harrassed outside of these forums.
I not saying its a reason to criticize him outside of the forum, I meant to criticize inside this forum (on this thread). I'm sorry if you miss understand me here, Yes it is wrong to harass people outside the forum.
I believe you said in greyed small text within parentheses "(I'm Joking... almost).
WellCooked, what was it that you did, get someone else to call for you as you suggested? Did you actually get someone to order a bunch of pizzas in for Paul in Paul's name to be delivered at 3:00 AM? Why did you use that word
"almost"
You blew it WFC.
Why did you use that word "almost" in describing that you were not totally joking?
WellCooked, have you been naughty?
WellCooked, what was it that you did, get someone else to call for you as you suggested? Did you actually get someone to order a bunch of pizzas in for Paul in Paul's name to be delivered at 3:00 AM? Why did you use that word
"almost"
You blew it WFC.
Why did you use that word "almost" in describing that you were not totally joking?
WellCooked, have you been naughty?
yes I have, I have direct someone to fight against him, as this person came to me asking if there was anyone bothering me they could "scuff up" so I direct him to paulsamuel membership page here, I did not figure it would come to all this but now that it has happend I am both sorry and pleased. I was expecting him to argue with him here in sciforums not to call him outside of the forum.
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I mean, I recently found a gross spelling mistake in a post I made where I used "emphasize" rather than "empathize" which threw my whole intent out of whack but that whole word "almost" was an admission of some guilt. That wasn't too mean to edit out (you who complain about people editing their posts), me thinks you took it out because that was you being nice and honest and coming clean.
aah I just did come clean, read above.
this whole thing begs the question: why is there the oppurtunity to post personal information in your profile in the first place? if noone does anything with it (the sensible thing- as demonstrated by the last four pages) then it is merely wasting time, and if they do use it all that can happen is something like what this four pages has been about...? i dont thus understand why it is there in the first place, since whatever is done with it serves no useful purpose. if people do wish to disclose personal information to others why not let them PM it or something, instead of giving them the oppurtunity to broadcast it all over the web 
personal information provided does not need to be detailed. I don’t see a name, address, phone number there do you? It is not required of you and if it was it sure as dam better be for a private forum of people that can be trusted.
it still asks you for date of birth, where you live and what your name is etc...
while it is pain-stakingly obvious not to go into much detail, this whole thing is pretty obvious that its pointless. many times in threads are country of origin brought up, and what more needs to be said? i still think its stupid to have it, cause the stupid that use it are just going to get trouble.
while it is pain-stakingly obvious not to go into much detail, this whole thing is pretty obvious that its pointless. many times in threads are country of origin brought up, and what more needs to be said? i still think its stupid to have it, cause the stupid that use it are just going to get trouble.
argagr crap, did you just edit? dammit... i must need glasses.
anyway, while i understand things like phone number and stuff are not required.. it doesnt really matter what you say, a person has just friggin done it?!?
anyway, while i understand things like phone number and stuff are not required.. it doesnt really matter what you say, a person has just friggin done it?!?
where does it say name? ya paulsamuel did it and now it a problem for him, his fault.
i doesnt :bugeye: my eyes are half shut-down or something.
i really dont care to be honest, just asking... i wasnt stupid enough to put all my details there, so i dont give a dam.
i really dont care to be honest, just asking... i wasnt stupid enough to put all my details there, so i dont give a dam.
Blame the victim, why don't you, WellCookedFetus.
Sounds like a good suggestion, Logically Unsound. The advantage to posting such information would be that beneficial contacts might be forthcoming but danger is also inherent in a forum from who knows who. It would be wise to put up some explanation of this as SciForums policy and suggest people use PM to make further detailed contact. Forums are new to many. When I first started I used my name and that brought me the harassing phone calls. It would be wise of SciForums to enact policies that helped personal contacts be positive.
Sounds like a good suggestion, Logically Unsound. The advantage to posting such information would be that beneficial contacts might be forthcoming but danger is also inherent in a forum from who knows who. It would be wise to put up some explanation of this as SciForums policy and suggest people use PM to make further detailed contact. Forums are new to many. When I first started I used my name and that brought me the harassing phone calls. It would be wise of SciForums to enact policies that helped personal contacts be positive.
^ why thank you....
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Actually, the advice I gave you is exactly what I did when my ex stalked me for a couple of years. You're complaining about 2 phone calls? Wait until someone starts sending you things like 2 dozen yellow roses with the flowers cut off the stem and lying in the bottom of the box with a charming "You're f*cking mine and dead bitch" note. My personal favourite was my photo sent to my parents house with my face burnt out with what looked like a cigarette and holes punched into where my heart was meant to be. That and more plus phone calls all day, every day and night. I tried to ignore it at first but in the end I contacted the police and they dealt with it. In the meantime, I was advised by the police to have my phone number changed and unlisted, to set up caller ID, to not put any of my details anywhere that could be viewed by the general public (such as on the internet), etc.paulsamuel said:
Hey numbnuts! Did I ask him to explain why he posted the message? I answered his question and told him what I would do. So I suggest that you are the one to shut your trap.thefountainhed said:
He should be able to post his personal details on any public forum without fear that weirdos would call him up. But unfortunately we don't live in such a world. We live in a world where people can take offence to what you say and try to follow that up with idiotic phone calls and stalking. Hell, you should know all about that, wouldn't you hed? I'll give you a quick reminder.thefountainhed said:
Did I say that? A woman should be allowed to walk around naked without fear of rape or abuse. A child should be able to walk home without fear that someone may pull over in their car and drag them in. No one should ever be stalked, raped, abused, beaten, have their phone numbers published by a person on a forum after it is sent to him via a PM, etc. But alas, we don't live in such a world. The world is filled with bastards hed. Bastards who do rape women for dressing in a particular way, bastards who do kidnap and rape and kill children, bastards who do publish someone else's phone number without their permission on a public forum, bastards who track down someone to call them up and annoy them.thefountainhed said:
Paul should not be harrassed by any dickheads who frequent this or any other forum. But seeing that someone has taken that much of a dislike or like to him that they have actually gone to the trouble to track him down via the information in his profile, he should err on the side of caution and delete it or alter it so that such a thing cannot happen again. He shouldn't have to do it, but right now, that would probably be his best option. Especially when seen in light of WCF's latest comments....
Are you insane? What in the hell could have gone through your mind to do such a thing? If he bothered you that much, there is the ignore option. What the fuck were you thinking? That would have to be one of the most disgusting and purile things I've seen to date on this forum. And to think you're a moderator.WellCookedFetus said:
Oh and I like the edit of the previous message to this:
You should have stuck to the original message. And you should give paul the guy's name because your stupid, dumb goon already has bothered him and has been a problem for him. And you can actually say that you're "sorry and pleased"? Sorry about what? That you got caught? Or are you just pleased that you have a goon who will harrass people for you? You're obviously not sorry if you can be pleased about it.WellCookedFetus said:
You are a disgrace!
Hey I would tell him who it was If I still had the PM, now I have nothing.
Merely seeing how long this thread got tells me that something ain't right here.
I mean, Paulsamuel, to write all those replies -- that takes some time and energy.
Which makes me think if two of the most precious things in world, time and energy, were spent for a good reason.
I think you are making a *big deal* out of this harrassment. Do you wish that we all here would say, "Oh, poor Paul, that s.o.b. WCF is harrassing him."?
You don't really have a case.
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However, upon reading what you posted today:
I think something else is the real problem here.
Was it your boss who came to tell you that there is a phone call for you?
I assume you do get meaningful phone calls at work. And the way things are at the office you work at is that *your boss* comes to tell you about the phone call?
If it is another researcher or family who calls you, it is okay, I presume.
But this anonymous call is a special example, since you are upset about it.
Could it be that you have
a) An (old) issue with your boss?
b) You are at SciForums while you are at work, and if the boss has to come to tell you about the phone call, he can see that you aren't doing your work.
Ad b): You said you were *online*, saw something WCF posted. Then, the phone call. Your boss comes -- and sees, among other things, that you are *not* working. (Even greater his surprise, when he sees "SciForums" on your screen, and the caller introduced himself as a s "SciForums member".) You take the phone call. Then you go back. But you *don't* go back to your work, you go back to *SciForums*. Where you see that a post has been changed by WCF. Then, another phone call, your boss comes again. Same thing as before.
You are afraid (and rightly) that you will face problems from your boss: but your boss will not go against you because of the phone calls; your boss will go against you because YOU ARE NOT DOING YOUR WORK. This is what really bugs you. It is this frustration that gives you stamina to fight here, and you have just transposed the real problem of your not doing your work into a case of harrassment.
If other people, researchers or family call you, you can't blame them for anything, since there really is no obvious reason, even though the situation with the phone call -- and your boss seeing that you're not working is the same. But an anonymous caller, whom you can assume to be WCF -- the perfect scapegoat!
If b) is indeed what is taking place in your case, then I suggest you think good and hard about whom you are going to accuse, and of what.
I mean, Paulsamuel, to write all those replies -- that takes some time and energy.
Which makes me think if two of the most precious things in world, time and energy, were spent for a good reason.
I think you are making a *big deal* out of this harrassment. Do you wish that we all here would say, "Oh, poor Paul, that s.o.b. WCF is harrassing him."?
You don't really have a case.
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However, upon reading what you posted today:
paulsamuel said:
I think something else is the real problem here.
Was it your boss who came to tell you that there is a phone call for you?
I assume you do get meaningful phone calls at work. And the way things are at the office you work at is that *your boss* comes to tell you about the phone call?
If it is another researcher or family who calls you, it is okay, I presume.
But this anonymous call is a special example, since you are upset about it.
Could it be that you have
a) An (old) issue with your boss?
b) You are at SciForums while you are at work, and if the boss has to come to tell you about the phone call, he can see that you aren't doing your work.
Ad b): You said you were *online*, saw something WCF posted. Then, the phone call. Your boss comes -- and sees, among other things, that you are *not* working. (Even greater his surprise, when he sees "SciForums" on your screen, and the caller introduced himself as a s "SciForums member".) You take the phone call. Then you go back. But you *don't* go back to your work, you go back to *SciForums*. Where you see that a post has been changed by WCF. Then, another phone call, your boss comes again. Same thing as before.
You are afraid (and rightly) that you will face problems from your boss: but your boss will not go against you because of the phone calls; your boss will go against you because YOU ARE NOT DOING YOUR WORK. This is what really bugs you. It is this frustration that gives you stamina to fight here, and you have just transposed the real problem of your not doing your work into a case of harrassment.
If other people, researchers or family call you, you can't blame them for anything, since there really is no obvious reason, even though the situation with the phone call -- and your boss seeing that you're not working is the same. But an anonymous caller, whom you can assume to be WCF -- the perfect scapegoat!
If b) is indeed what is taking place in your case, then I suggest you think good and hard about whom you are going to accuse, and of what.
Whoa. People. If WellCookedFetus keeps his moderator status at the least, Sciforums will have a big black mark against it.
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