Good and Evil.

Pinball1970 said:
That reminds me of the question at 3.50 here. Watch it all though to give context. You will recognize Brian Glover and a young Rick Mayall

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Whaddaya mean don’t panic, I’m a fuckin’ werewolf for Chrissakes.

Jenny Agutter was gorgeous…..
 
ольга said:
"Your heads will stop hurting" - is that like the joke?
A husband and wife are walking through a petting zoo. Suddenly, a large male gorilla grabs the wife, runs away, and begins to undress her with a very specific intent. The wife screams at her husband: "Do something!" Husband: "What can I do? Well, tell him you're tired and have a headache!"
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Yes. The old phrase "Not tonight dear, I have a head ache."
 
Good and evil is the war in hell. I see that good versus evil is right from wrong, but with good and evil, there is a moral spirit intertwined with heck.

Knowledge of good and evil is the devils weakness.
 
kx000 said:
Good and evil is the war in hell. I see that good versus evil is right from wrong, but with good and evil, there is a moral spirit intertwined with heck.

Knowledge of good and evil is the devils weakness.
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А как Вы представляете себе Рай и Ад?
 
kx000 said:
Good and evil is the war in hell. I see that good versus evil is right from wrong, but with good and evil, there is a moral spirit intertwined with heck.

Knowledge of good and evil is the devils weakness.
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Great. Good an evil are important to a made-up guy who lives in a made-up place.
 
kx000 said:
According to you
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It's your claim that this devil guy lives in hell. That's not granted to be so (heck it's not even granted among the Abrahamic religions).

This is the Ethics, Morality and Justice forum, not the Religion forum. So God and Heaven and Hell don't get a free pass.

Anyway, OK, this is your personal belief: that good and evil are a war between a god you believe exists and an anti-god that you believe fights him.

Of what practical use is that construct? Does it help us mortal here on Earth know how to behave? To be good or evil? How? We can;t see them or hear from them; how do we learn anything?
 
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DaveC426913 said:
It's your claim that this devil guy lives in hell. That's not granted to be so (heck it's not even granted among the Abrahamic religions).

This is the Ethics, Morality and Justice forum, not the Religion forum. So God and Heaven and Hell don't get a free pass.

Anyway, OK, this is your personal belief: that good and evil are a war between a god you believe exists and an anti-god that you believe fights him.

Of what practical use is that construct? Does it help us mortal here on Earth know how to behave? To be good or evil? How? We can;t see them or hear from them; how do we learn anything?
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Дэйв, даже если бы Вы увидели или услышали, то всё равно не поверили бы. Подумали бы, что у Вас начались проблемы с психикой, и пошли к врачу.
 
ольга said:
Dave, what would have to happen for you to believe?
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Believe what? In God?

As with all things, I'd need sufficient evidence that rules out other, more likely possibilities.

For example: if a mile tall guy with a white beard and staff sporting a glowing 'G' appeared above my neighbourhood for all to see, and said "I AM GOD", and then turned day into night with a snap of his fingers, and turned the world inside out with a wink of his eye, I might be persuaded to consider that God might be real. But I would have questions.

Couple of films you should watch if you get a chance:
Oh God! (1977) George Burns, John Denver "So help me, me."
Star Trek V (1989) William Shatner "Excuse me. What does God need with a starship?"

The former explores the idea of God convincing a courtroom of people that he is real by snapping his fingers and making it night.
The latter explores the idea of a god-like creature pretending to be God by performing some impressive parlour tricks.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
Believe what? In God?

As with all things, I'd need sufficient evidence that rules out other, more likely possibilities.

For example: if a mile tall guy with a white beard and staff sporting a glowing 'G' appeared above my neighbourhood for all to see, and said "I AM GOD", and then turned day into night with a snap of his fingers, and turned the world inside out with a wink of his eye, I might be persuaded to consider that God might be real. But I would have questions.

Couple of films you should watch if you get a chance:
Oh God! (1977) George Burns, John Denver "So help me, me."
Star Trek V (1989) William Shatner "Excuse me. What does God need with a starship?"
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Дэйв, ну теперь понятно, почему Вы верите, что Бога нет. Такого, как Вы себе представляете, наверное, действительно нет.
 
ольга said:
Dave, now it's clear why you believe there is no God. The one you imagine probably really doesn't exist.
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You misunderstand.
I'm not saying that's what I think God is, or that's how he'd manifest. I'm simply saying extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. If you want me to accept that there's an entity that is free of time, space and nature, I expect god-like evidence to convince me.

If you want me to believe in a god that created the universe and then retired, I'll have to a see demonstration of that that is more convincing than any alternative.

You don't believe because you are convinced; you believe because you wish to believe. Because you were told what to believe.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
You misunderstand.
I'm not saying that's what I think God is, or that's how he'd manifest. I'm simply saying extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. If you want me to accept that there's an entity that is free of time, space and nature, I expect god-like evidence to convince me.

If you want me to believe in a god that created the universe and then retired, I'll have to a see demonstration of that that is more convincing than any alternative.

You don't believe because you are convinced; you believe because you wish to believe. Because you were told what to believe.
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Дэйв, меня даже не крестили в младенчестве, как вас. И я такой же "Фома Неверующий", как и Вы. Я знаю, почему я верю. И я знаю, что Бог открывается тому, кто этого искренне хочет. Вы не верите, потому что Вы не хотите этого. И только Вы сами знаете почему.
 
ольга said:
Dave, I wasn't even baptized as a baby like you. And I'm as much of a "doubting Thomas" as you are. I know why I believe. And I know that God reveals Himself to those who sincerely want it. You don't believe because you don't want it. And only you know why.
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Nonsense circular logic.

Leprechauns haven't revealed themselves to you because you don't want to believe in them. Just believe in them, Olga!
 
DaveC426913 said:
Nonsense circular logic.

Leprechauns haven't revealed themselves to you because you don't want to believe in them. Just believe in them, Olga!
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Нет, Дэйв. Нужно чтобы седой старец с длинной бородой, сидящий на облаке, метнул в Вас бутылку пепси-колы... Бамц! Лови, Дэйв! Теперь ты веришь?!
 
ольга said:
No, Dave. You need a gray-haired old man with a long beard sitting on a cloud to throw a bottle of Pepsi at you... Bamtz! Catch it, Dave! Do you believe it now?!
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You miss my point. I go on the evidence.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. "That flower is pretty, therefore God exists" is not extraordinary evidence.

Now tell me why you haven't accepted Leprechauns into your heart. Do you just not want to believe in them?
 
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