Dear Believers, prove your god or gods is/aren't just fiction(s).

Trek said:
Is the criteria for obtaining evidence the same for the existence of electrons, abiogenesis, or the evolution of the humming bird? Or do you require different standards of application based on what is already understood about the particular subject?
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Absolutely, the criteria and methods of obtaining acceptable evidence are not different from one thing to the next.

If your God existed, you should easily be able to show me the acceptable evidence, such that I'm convinced in the same way you can show me evidence of electrons.
 
Sarkus said:
As I've argued here (or was it in the split-off thread? I can't recall) it depends on what you mean by "evidence". Do you mean along the lines of "something that fits the theory" or "something that promotes the theory above others" (or similar).
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If the evidence shows that "something above others" is not necessary, why invent its necessity?
 
This is rather like shooting self-replicating fish in a barrel. The more you shoot the more there is. And not a clue in a barrel full.
 
Write4U said:
If the evidence shows that "something above others" is not necessary, why invent its necessity?
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Because the so called evidence you mention is nothing but you’re personal opinion, which doesn’t count as actual evidence.
 
(Q) said:
We are both saying the same thing, evidence is key, an argument is not evidence.
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Yes arguments based on evidence is evidence.
The cosmological argument for the existence of God is evidence of God. But let’s not get bogged down in semantics. I have given evidence of God. Why don’t you accept God is real based on that?
 
Trek said:
Yes arguments based on evidence is evidence.
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Nope, not even close. An argument is not evidence. An argument is an exchange of views, opinions or facts, so the argument itself is not evidence
 
Trek said:
Because the so called evidence you mention is nothing but you’re personal opinion, which doesn’t count as actual evidence.
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Truer words were never spoken.

The so called evidence you mention is nothing but your personal opinion, which doesn’t count as actual evidence.

A perfect note to end the thread on.
 
Trek said:
I disagree.
But regardless it is my evidence.
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If an argument is all you have, then you have no evidence.
Trek said:
Yes arguments based on evidence is evidence.
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An argument once again by definition is an exchange of views, ideas opinions and even facts. That does not make the argument evidence, it allows the exchange back and forth of those views, etc.

See the difference?
 
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