Being an insufferable bitch i.e. moderator rudeness.

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Going a bit too far, aren't you?

I just want to see how consistent your position is.


But, yes.
I did.
I'm still alive.

You earned your body? You earned that you are alive?
Are you saying it is your doing that that tile falling off the roof and cracking open the skull of the person walking in front of you has not fallen on you?
That it is your doing that a tornado didn't choose to sweep across your house?
That that stray bullet didn't hit you?
And so on.

Our physical survival is also due to a million things over which we have no control.
We can't rightfully say we have earned to be alive.
 
Signal,

There is always an element of chance involved. The world is far too complex for such not to be the case.
However, one must take responsibility for one's life.
The successes as well as the failures.

Yes, I could not control that random lightning strike that didn't kill me.
But, I did choose to not step in front of the moving car.
I did choose to better myself in order to provide myself (and those I care about) with a better life than if I had taken the easy path and subsisted on charity.
There are myriad choices I have made in my life, every day of my life, which have ensured my survival.

Not only this, but these choices have also shaped me. Mind and body into that which I am today.

One must own oneself.

Snowflakes don't.
They point fingers when things go wrong.
They look for someone to blame rather than the solution to the problem.
They seek to excuse themselves with "What happened was..."
I don't give a shit about what happened. That sounds personal to me. Tell me what you're going to do to fix it. Or, better yet, just fix it.

Responsibility.
Key.
 
All that is irrelevant. As long as she's interesting to read who cares why she's here?
I don't care. I just fnd this thread amusing.

What I said isn't irrelevant. It is the way this place works now, and has always worked. It's the way things work everywhere. People form cliques, and make rules which are only a reflection of their communal desires.

Gendanken went against a group who had the power and desire to remove her, and they did exactly that. Surprise?
 
Well there might be a loophole.

Basically speaking, the moral majority here at the forums who are anti-Gendanken have charmingly found a sympathetic ear in certain members of the mod-patrol, those who are also grudgingly anti-Gendanken
Grudgingly?

—and lets not fool ourselves here, this has nothing to do with morals and decent behavior but everything to do with a sense of self-impotency and paralyzing bashfulness when confronted by Gendanken’s displeasure.
In many cases, yes. Does that imply it is always that?
For every two or three who are as you describe above, there is one more who simply finds her to be an idiot.

Your assumption is that they have a grudge. Your assumption is that everyone who finds Gendanken annoying does so because they fear her acumen. In many cases, you may be absolutely correct.
In others, you are not.

In other words, this has everything to do with Gendanken beingGendanken—and mark my words, I swear to God that if any one of those pretty people had and felt the power of Gendanken’s unwonted articulation and acumen that they too would certainly not shy away from using them.
The banning was about Gendanken being Gendaken - Invert's subsequent thread is not.

Interesting to note that the majority of her supporters are those who have been spared that "articulation and acumen". Watch what happens when a bully walks into a room of people - some will immediately ingratiate themselves, and some will not. Those who ingratiate themselves will be spared the bully's full attention more often than not, notwithstanding a few jibes for the sake of form.
Observe a tribe of Chimpanzees for a while. Watch who the Alpha goes after, and who he mostly leaves alone.

So, in a place where members pride themselves in championing various causes in human rights, I’m surprised that the right of self-integrity has not been touched upon—because, again, let’s not fool ourselves: Gendanken can not be expected to amputate her personality solely for the mob’s pleasure or displeasure.
How far do you take that? Would you allow Ted Bundy to wander around doing as he pleases but that's just "who he is"?
Gendanken can amputate her personality or not as she pleases. Every human on the planet has to do so to one extent or another. It depends solely on which group one wishes to be a part of.
If one wishes to join a football club and play football, one needs to conform to the social structure of that club. If not, they don't play. It isn't rocket science.

Those who have the power to do so will simply express their displeasure at Gendanken's individuality in a formal manner. It has nothing to do with whether or not they are right in doing so.

Ever watched "Big Brother"? I caught a few episodes a few years back. A girl who was an annoying, mouthy bitch was one of the survivors until near the end. Was it because she was honest, or had integrity? No. It was because the public have a notion at the moment that to be oneself, an individual, is key, and admirable in itself.
The viewing public had the single advantage (or disadvantage) of observing her from the outside, and were free to admire from a distance without having to deal with her, and their own stated preference. To be in that house, however, would probably have been an unpleasant experience.

I mean, her message is clear: the same spirit that can climb mountains and encourage others to climb along with her is also the same spirit that can demolish molehills. You can’t get the one without the other. Human integrity.
How romantically poetic.

Encourage? Heh. She requires a little submission before she encourages anyone at all. Once she has that, then yes, I agree. She does.

Again, simply observe. You'll see it.
 
The Marquis,

Sigh.
Do you even realize what you're revealing about yourself here?
It'd be sad if I liked you. Funny, either way.
Why don't you tell me then? Isn't it you who is complaining about the pretence of knowing when one does not?
Actually, don't bother. If I wanted to know what Gendanken thought, I'd ask her.

I suppose that's your precious Shadenfreude. Funny-sad. More funny than sad.
You, of course, are immune to feeling any such thing.
It's fun, Invert. Put in a coin and go along with the ride. You can always get off if you start feeling ill.

As to your whole 'analysis' or whatever you want to call it, you're worse at it than Wanderer ever was. Give it a rest.
Ssssss.. don't say the "W" word! She might be watching!

I'm giving my own views on the matter. So are you, Gendanken, and everyone else.
Are you telling me you're tired of it? Sick of being the object of someone's elses misguided or incorrect assumptions?

Think about that for a while, Invert. Or have Gendanken to think about it first, and then come back and tell me what she you think.

You really don't know just how boring you are, do you?
Why the hell would anybody talk about you?
Invert, you're using the same words, the same phrases. Stop trying.

Yeah. Ambiguous allusions are the far superior way to communicate, eh?
Ass opposed to acrimonious allusions, you mean? I suppose which you find prefereable merely depends on which side of the fence you're standing.
Right?

Gives you the defense of claiming that no one understands the greatness inside, yes?
I haven't claimed anything of the sort.
Gendanken, on the other hand, has quite a few claiming it for her.
Rampant hypocrisy, Invert. Your watermark.

How many roads must a man walk down... before he starts being a pussy goth?
...What?
The wind is certainly blowing here, but it's not giving me any answers. Damn wind. Blow harder!

The ban was over two days ago, genius.
Doesn't change a thing, Invert.
 
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A couple of gems:

Enmos,

This thread is about Ben's hypocrisy. Nothing more.
Nothing more.
(None that he's willing to admit, at any rate)

Are you taking lessons from the Marquis now, Enmos? Can you see my heart of hearts?
Of course you can't.
(Unless it's Gendanken's analysis?)

Let's sink back a bit. I'll give you one more-ONE MORE-chance to get me.
That's it.
(Nobody understands. *Sniff*.)

The problem of today is snowflakism.
Everybody's so fucking special and unique that they don't even need to try any more.
It's a right.
(Book of the week. Waiting for the Dune reference.)
 
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No-one has yet said that Gedanken isn't an insufferable bitch, just that it's rude to call her that to her face.
Even Gedanken hasn't said it.


Let's lighten the mood a bit.
Here's one of those bears the Chinese keep in cages to extract bile from.
images
 
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Enmos,



This thread is about Ben's hypocrisy. Nothing more.
Nothing more.

Your posts are always asking me how I can possibly hold my stance while Gendanken is being insulting.
Later, you turn the tables on me and ask how I can point at Ben's hypocrisy while being insulting.
These are logical fallacies, Enmos.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
They have no bearing on what Ben did.
None.

Is that simple enough for you?



But, I did.
Are you taking lessons from the Marquis now, Enmos? Can you see my heart of hearts?
Of course you can't.
As I've said about you time and time again. You don't read. You see exactly what you want to see.
It burns no calories.



It's the damned truth. You might think I'm trying to be insulting by wondering about your english skills, but that reply of yours that I quoted was complete nonsense. A bunch of random shit with no connection to anything that I actually wrote.

I think I see what you're doing. You're responding by clipping little bits and answering them. By the time you get to the next bit, you've already put the previous bit out of your mind? Is that it?
Not reading the whole post?

If that's not it, then I don't know what the hell is going on with you. Maybe a stroke or something.



Sounds familiar.
Been waiting to throw that back, eh?
Hurts?



Then, if you understood what I asked, then why didn't you answer?
If you had read my post, then you'd realize that this question came right after my brief attempt to correct your mispointed focus as to the 'snowflake' question.

Tyler Durden makes the snowflake an integral part of his philosophy.
That's why I referenced it.
You should know exactly what I'm trying to say because you've seen the movie, right?

So, tell me, what does Tyler Durden have to say about snowflakes?



Trying to goad, parrot?

Question: Is calling me 'tophat' insulting?
Is me calling you 'parrot' insulting?


Anyway.
Let's sink back a bit. I'll give you one more-ONE MORE-chance to get me.
That's it.
One more and I'm through with you.
Get it?

On the topic of insults.
If you had actually read this thread rather than perused your mental catalog of what it is I must surely by saying, then you'd have read that I do not stand on your side of the insulting line. I believe that the law should be more lax. That is my belief.
I don't think that insulting is as deadly as you apparently do.
I've been over this argument so many times before you even poked your head into this little forum that it's not funny.
Get it?
I'm not a hypocrite because I don't espouse or enforce the prosecution of the actions which I also participate in.
Get it?

Ben insults people.
Ben punishes people for insulting other people.

That is the conundrum.
All your other ponderings are strawmen and red herrings.

Hence, my initial response to you about logical fallacies.
You get an F in pointing them out.
Don't worry, I got it. And I'm saying it's hypocritical of you.
And why would 'tophat' be insulting? It's a reference to your avatar..

Anyway, I've said what I wanted to say. Have a great time quibbling about this the coming week.
 
I have, plenty of times.
But then again, I usually had noone who would support me, so I didn't have much choice but to consider what I was being told.
You always have a choice.
My error, though. I should not have included those who one doesn't like. Dislike and like are closely related; indifference would be the key here.
By definition, feeling indifferent to another does preculde thinking about what they are saying. In most cases, people think they are indifferent to another but actually are not.

My point is that when people do not have a secure social basis, they are more vulnerable to criticism from strangers.
My point, actually. I'll let you borrow it.

.. or was that another thread? Or an email... I don't remember.
 
Invert Nexus said:
The problem of today is snowflakism.
Everybody's so fucking special and unique that they don't even need to try any more.
It's a right.

And in an environment that’s being groomed to filter out a certain species of character that would otherwise challenge people’s choice of masquerade…

Sure, we all don masks in public—we have to—but those masks are suppose to reflect as close as possible the inner workings of our progressive caliber, our consciousness, our will, our spirit. And it’s not some sort of vague democratic right or grandiose ego trip to wear such and such a mask but is instead the stroke of true artistry that one can wear such and such a mask: self recognition, self-integrity, self-expression, and, here world, I am presenting you with my creation—it's almost as if one isn't wearing a mask at all!

I mean, this is so unjust. In all topics here at the forums where one is skilled at some type of knowledge, a challenge is practically required: a challenge to knowledge. But if someone should come skipping in here benefiting an elevated sense at self-character, which is also a form of knowledge and self-attainment, they are expected to section themselves off, butcher their wholeness which drives their skills so as not to challenge or be challenged: they are expected to wear someone else's glum mask.
 
Enmos,

Whatever.
I still say you don't read.
Nothing you've said indicates otherwise.


The Marquis,

Feel better then?
Hope so.

You really are boring.
Know that.
 
Gendanken came back trading on her own legend, didn't say anything of note and managed to insult a whole bunch of people doing it.

Most of all, you!

All this is just a bit of you being scorned. I should have her post your emails to her.

Her intelligence has been an excuse in the past, but without that on prominent display she just looks like a bitch.

It's a good thing she doesn't take leave of that intelligence.

It was like watching a washed up football player still trying to convince the crowds he's worth his salary.

Wait? How's that again?

What about Gendanken is "washed up" and explain how you, wandering in here like a lost kitty, doesn't further pay her the attention you claim she

I admit, I haven't read much of this thread. Can't see that it's worth the effort.

Liar.

You've posted some pretty long messages in a thread you claim not the care much about.

Frankly, I'm sick of this fad for "telling it like it is".

As opposed to, what? Beating around the bush in order to spare your pwessious feewings?

All you get is a generation of idiots telling it like they think it is.

No. All you get is a generation of idiots, regardless of what you do. People, in large groups, tend to be dumb.

Dead tired of being told I should have respect for someone because they're "feisty", or whatever. Feisty is a fine thing - but when feisty is only that, it becomes monotonous and annoying.

Who's telling you that you have to respect her?

Problem is, her feistiness has been directed at you in ways you don't like, and has left you behind, despite your desperate attempts to weasel your way back into hers.

Unfortunately, her vice is that she's been told so often how right she is that she thinks she always is. You, Invert, are merely feeding the cancer.

What is that cancer?

That she thinks she's always right.

Name the last time on this board you admitted to being wrong. Sort of the pot calling the kettle black. Only in this case, it's a spurned man who's desperately looking for a way to remain relevant.

I don't care. I just fnd this thread amusing.

Amusing enough to. . . um. . . care.

But we both know it goes deeper than that.

Gendanken went against a group who had the power and desire to remove her, and they did exactly that. Surprise?

Um. That same group reinstated her when they found out "their" judgment was wrong.

~String
 
(Book of the week. Waiting for the Dune reference.)

I thought it was Shaw this week.

(Unless it's Gendanken's analysis?)

You do realize that you spout enough melodramatic shit out here that your whiny emails to her don't really mean anything, yes?

...What?
The wind is certainly blowing here, but it's not giving me any answers. Damn wind. Blow harder!

This is really reminiscent of Wanderer.
You're getting closer.

You, of course, are immune to feeling any such thing.

I am?
I thought I was saying that you were funny/sad?
Gee.

Are you telling me you're tired of it? Sick of being the object of someone's elses misguided or incorrect assumptions?

Actually, I don't mind.
It's more of that funny/sad thing.
Spew all you want.

You're a funny little guy, really.
I really get a kick out of imagining your nonsense in an Australian accent.
Crikey.

Anyway, got real things to tend to.
You'll no longer exist to me in about 30 seconds until the next time I come across your whiny rantings.
That's the truth.

Enjoy.
 
I mean, this is so unjust. In all topics here at the forums where one is skilled at some type of knowledge, a challenge is practically required: a challenge to knowledge. But if someone should come skipping in here benefiting an elevated sense at self-character, which is also a form of knowledge and self-attainment, they are expected to section themselves off, butcher their wholeness which drives their skills so as not to challenge or be challenged: they are expected to wear someone else's glum mask.
I agree, in general.
Where I take exception is the "self-attainment" line. There are many who probably have the same heightened sense of worth you're describing. In the end, all it comes down to is sympathy for character... and that is based largely on entertainment value. Not "acumen". No one denies that Gendanken has an admirable mind... but too many of you seem to think this makes her infallible.

The simple fact is, she isn't; but even she has come to believe she is.
Cancer.

Gendanken has a knack of polarising attitudes towards her. Like, dislike, there aren't many who are indifferent. But if one wants to be a part of a group, then one must suborn themselves to that group.
Gendanken knows how the world works as well as anyone; her banning was her choice, and to argue moral right and wrong of it based on your own aesthetics is ridiculous.
 
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