UFOs (UAPs): Explanations?

Either you have a mindset of gaining knowledge upon this subject or you don't . Just reason the information out .
You misunderstand. We have gained knowledge on the subject, and we have reasoned it out.
And the conclusion is that there is insufficient extraordinary evidence to come to such an extraordinary conclusion.

The ultimate discussion on this topic would be to read a book and discuss a certain page(s) in the book . What ever book that happens to be .
No it wouldn't. It would be for you to show the extraordinary evidence you claim to know, that will convince us there's really aliens about.

As previous: extraordinary evidence is not found in books. It's found on a lab table.

The extraordinary evidence exists
False. As I predicted.
 
River, I think the people here want to hear about the books you have read, and what was it is in those books that made you reach the conclusions you have?
What books titles and what ideas/cases in those books convinced you?
Are these books you read secret or something? So far you have said nothing about nothing.
Wow, go to the trouble of reading a book only to discuss it with you using one line posts.

But I don't want them hear about these books .

It's about being objective .
 

Either you have a mindset of gaining knowledge upon this subject or you don't . Just reason the information out

You misunderstand. We have gained knowledge on the subject, and we have reasoned it out.
And the conclusion is that there is insufficient extraordinary evidence to come to such an extraordinary conclusion.

What was your reasoning based on ?
 
river said:
What was your reasoning based on ?


The utter failure to produce any extraordinary evidence.

What like the UFO's over the White House in 1952 .

The Military and Police observations .

Pilots , of both military and civilian aircraft . Radar

Civilian observations .

But more than all of this , is capability of space craft maneuverability at right angles .
 
I don't have the spare dough .

Are there other books by him ?

  • Unexplained: Strange Sightings, Incredible Occurrences, and Puzzling Physical Phenomena, third edition, 2012, Visible Ink Press, ISBN 1-57859-344-1
  • Hidden Realms, Lost Civilizations, and Beings from Other Worlds, 2010, Visible Ink Press, ISBN 1-57859-175-9
  • The Unidentified & Creatures of the Outer Edge by Jerome Clark and Loren Coleman. Anomalist Books, 2006. ISBN 1933665114
  • Unnatural Phenomena: A Guide to the Bizarre Wonders of North America, 2005, ABC-Clio Books, ISBN 1-57607-430-7
  • Strange Skies: Pilot Encounters with UFOs, 2003, Citadel Books, ISBN 0-8065-2299-2
  • Extraordinary Encounters: an Encyclopedia of Extraterrestrials and Otherworldly Beings, 2000, ABC-CLIO. ISBN 1-57607-379-3
  • Cryptozoology A to Z: The Encyclopedia of Loch Monsters, Sasquatch, Chupacabras, and Other Authentic Mysteries of Nature by Loren Coleman and Jerome Clark. Simon and Schuster, 1999. ISBN 0684856026
  • The UFO Encyclopedia: The Phenomenon From The Beginning (2-Volume Set), 1998, Omnigraphics Books, ISBN 0-7808-0097-4
  • The UFO Book: Encyclopedia of the Extraterrestrial, 1997, Visible Ink Press, ISBN 1-57859-029-9
  • Spacemen, demons, and conspiracies by Jerome Clark. Fund for UFO Research, 1997
  • Encyclopedia of Strange and Unexplained Physical Phenomena, 1993, Thomson Gale Press, ISBN 0-8103-8843-X
  • Creatures of the goblin world by Jerome Clark and Loren Coleman. Clark Publications, 1984
  • Earths Secret Inhabitants by D Scott Rogo and Jerome Clark. Tempo Books, 1979. ISBN 0-448-17062-0
  • The Unidentified: Notes Toward Solving the UFO Mystery by Jerome Clark and Loren Coleman. Warner Paperback Library, 1975. ISBN 0-446-78735-3
  • Strange & Unexplained Happenings: When Nature Breaks the Rules of Science by Jerome Clark and Nancy Pear. UXL Publishing. ISBN 0-8103-9780-3
 
  • Unexplained: Strange Sightings, Incredible Occurrences, and Puzzling Physical Phenomena, third edition, 2012, Visible Ink Press, ISBN 1-57859-344-1
  • Hidden Realms, Lost Civilizations, and Beings from Other Worlds, 2010, Visible Ink Press, ISBN 1-57859-175-9
  • The Unidentified & Creatures of the Outer Edge by Jerome Clark and Loren Coleman. Anomalist Books, 2006. ISBN 1933665114
  • Unnatural Phenomena: A Guide to the Bizarre Wonders of North America, 2005, ABC-Clio Books, ISBN 1-57607-430-7
  • Strange Skies: Pilot Encounters with UFOs, 2003, Citadel Books, ISBN 0-8065-2299-2
  • Extraordinary Encounters: an Encyclopedia of Extraterrestrials and Otherworldly Beings, 2000, ABC-CLIO. ISBN 1-57607-379-3
  • Cryptozoology A to Z: The Encyclopedia of Loch Monsters, Sasquatch, Chupacabras, and Other Authentic Mysteries of Nature by Loren Coleman and Jerome Clark. Simon and Schuster, 1999. ISBN 0684856026
  • The UFO Encyclopedia: The Phenomenon From The Beginning (2-Volume Set), 1998, Omnigraphics Books, ISBN 0-7808-0097-4
  • The UFO Book: Encyclopedia of the Extraterrestrial, 1997, Visible Ink Press, ISBN 1-57859-029-9
  • Spacemen, demons, and conspiracies by Jerome Clark. Fund for UFO Research, 1997
  • Encyclopedia of Strange and Unexplained Physical Phenomena, 1993, Thomson Gale Press, ISBN 0-8103-8843-X
  • Creatures of the goblin world by Jerome Clark and Loren Coleman. Clark Publications, 1984
  • Earths Secret Inhabitants by D Scott Rogo and Jerome Clark. Tempo Books, 1979. ISBN 0-448-17062-0
  • The Unidentified: Notes Toward Solving the UFO Mystery by Jerome Clark and Loren Coleman. Warner Paperback Library, 1975. ISBN 0-446-78735-3
  • Strange & Unexplained Happenings: When Nature Breaks the Rules of Science by Jerome Clark and Nancy Pear. UXL Publishing. ISBN 0-8103-9780-3

Thanks

Any book you particularly want to discuss in this list ?

river
 
Haven't read any of them.
Good, a start for you to at last get on the path of proper scientific scrutiny in not having read that nonsense.
Let me elaborate...All those books are simply sensationalizing an emotional topic to make some money. I have also read such nonsensical unscientific books, based on nothing but silly hear say, delusions and vivid imaginations.
One was a book entitled "The BB Never Happened" this was quickly refuted and mostly shown to be nonsensical by some professional experts on another forum...although I was able to debunk some of his invalid conclusions myself. The other was another imagined historical fairy tale called "The Bermuda Triangle"...this was even easier to debunk after the briefest of research.
Perhaps along with the nonsensical publications you have listed, you should also have that book by an Idiot called Brandeburg??? Something about some atomic war on Mars between alien species. I suppose if one needed a good laugh, that would certainly top the list. :D
 
Good, a start for you to at last get on the path of proper scientific scrutiny in not having read that nonsense.
Let me elaborate...All those books are simply sensationalizing an emotional topic to make some money. I have also read such nonsensical unscientific books, based on nothing but silly hear say, delusions and vivid imaginations.
One was a book entitled "The BB Never Happened" this was quickly refuted and mostly shown to be nonsensical by some professional experts on another forum...although I was able to debunk some of his invalid conclusions myself. The other was another imagined historical fairy tale called "The Bermuda Triangle"...this was even easier to debunk after the briefest of research.
Perhaps along with the nonsensical publications you have listed, you should also have that book by an Idiot called Brandeburg??? Something about some atomic war on Mars between alien species. I suppose if one needed a good laugh, that would certainly top the list. :D

Interesting

Good, a start for you to at last get on the path of proper scientific scrutiny in not having read that nonsense.

Your mindset is viewed , read and understood .

By the many .
 
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