What are you referring to? what things are you trying to find out about that religious people tell you and that science isn't telling you?.
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should creationists be allowed in science?
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What are you referring to? what things are you trying to find out about that religious people tell you and that science isn't telling you?.
peace
Your post was empty for a while, then the witches appeared out of nowhere, but I guess that is what they do.
Religious tell, but it is only from dogma written all at once in stone. Science finds out the real truth as it goes along, so I'll just stick with that.
Also, I would tell you to see my new thread from a day or so ago, but I'm purposely not telling you where it is.
"They is` magik you know"
But what don't you already know that religious people are telling you otherwise?.
Lol fine I will find it then, Touche!. (Study ethic right?)
It's exact same mentality.
Imagine if you will in 50 years America begins persecuting individuals because they don't believe in evolution or more to the point just for having a religion? We already know what that will be like if Albania was any indication of what an atheist society will do to the religious.
Humans aren't enlightened they persecute.
And they will persecute worse under science because there are more religious than irreligious.
Yes, he's an arrogant egoist.
The Groves of Academe are full of them.
I would say 95% of his scientific ideas are generally accepted, but he extrapolates these to attack religious belief.
Religion is not a science.
It is like a Meteorologist analysing Wuthering Heights, and finding it lacking accurate weather statistics.
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spidergoat
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...and I thought common sense like that didn't exist here.
No religion is not a science.
That's an interesting question. Why do you ask?
Actually government would be the ultimate tyranny.
Nanking Massacre 1937 20,000-80,000 women raped or murdered by the Japanese Army. 260,000 dead (median)
Massacre of the Latins May 1182 60,000–80,000 by Mob
Massacre of Praga[/B]1794- 20,000 by Russian Troops
Tripolitsa Massacre April 1821- 35,000 against the Ottoman Empire
Chios massacre 1822 - about 20,000 by Ottoman Troops
Massacre of Elphinstone's Army January 6, 1842 - 16,000 by Afghan tribes
Batak massacre April 30, 1876 - 3,000–5,000 by the Ottoman Army
Hamidian massacres 1894–1896 - 100,000–300,000 by the Ottoman Army
Moro Crater massacre March 10, 1906 800–1,000 by U.S Troops
NKVD prisoner massacres 1940, 21,857–25,700, by the Soviet Union
Kragujevac massacre1942:2,796-5,000, By Germany
Massacre of Kalavryta 1942 : 511-1200, by Germany
Massacres of Poles in Volhynia 1943: 50,000 By the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA)
Massacre of the Acqui Division September 21, 1943: 5,000, Wehrmacht troops
Wola massacre 00August 8, 1944: 40,000–100,000, Wehrmacht troops
Ochota massacre, August 1944: 10,000, by Waffen-SS.
Sétif massacre May 1945: 6,000 by the French Air Force
Jeju massacre April 3, 1948: 20,000 - 60,000 by South Korean Troops
Bodo League massacre1950: 100,000 - 1.2 million by the South Korean Army
Massacres during the Zanzibar Revolution January 18–21, 1964 :8,000–17,000
Hama massacre 1982 7,000 to 35,000 by the Syrian Army
Executions of Iranian Political Prisoners 1988: 4,482–30,000
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MASS FATALITIES
European Invasion of Asia and Africa
50 million to 60 million
The Atlantic Slave Trade
1.2 million to 2.4 million
European Invasion of the Americas
2 million to 10 million
The Jewis Holocaust
4.8 million to 11 million
World War II World Wide
40,000,000, 72,000,000
An Shi Rebellion
33 million - 36 million
Mongol Conquest
30 million 60 million
conquest of the Ming Dynasty
25 million
Taiping Rebellion
25 million
World War I
15 million to 65 million
Conquests of Timur
15 million to 20 million
Dungan revolt
8 million to 12 million
There is a Big White Elephant in the room but the society of science has been brain washed from the outset to ignore it. Politics revolution and just the plain human inclination to dominate his neighbor is the cause for the most fatalities in all of human history. Politics tells us...life is cheap.
spidergoat
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Irrelevant, there will always be things to fight over, lets just eliminate the irrational religious ones, OK?
"That's an interesting question. Why do you ask?"
I think I misunderstood your statement.
"That's an interesting question. Why do you ask?"
I think I misunderstood your statement.
Irrelevant?
You brought to me the subject of ULTIMATE TYRANNY. If it's irrelevant then why did you bring it up? I have shown you greater but your rationality is to focus on the conflict between the cat and mouse when true predators in the room are slaughtering each other by the millions.
Irrational? What a Qualifier you've chosen!
They didn't know these people at all.
What's rational about ceasing territory by the continent?
What's rational about whole sale indiscriminate death?
What's rational about rape?
What's rational about unlimited slavery?
WHAT'S RATIONAL ABOUT TROOPS KILLING UNARMED CIVILIANS!!
Some of the most notable religions are Philosophies of Peace and Order.
Rational is not lumping them all together.
Rational is not envoking the falacy that religion is the ultimate tyranny.
Call it what it is...it's sensationalism...
I think so I didn't say science was more religious than irreligious.
But I wouldn't disagree with the statement.
spidergoat
Valued Senior Member
Death toll isn't the ultimate measure of tyranny.
Fraggle Rocker
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It seems to have abandoned the original topic, that's for sure.
If people were teaching children explanations of the weather, in science class, based on Wutheringism;
if there were a ten century history of persecuting people who denied the universal applicability and ultimate truth of Wutheringism in every field of human inquiry and daily life;
if openly failing to worship at an official center of Wuthering belief could endanger your job, earn you longer prison sentences, or blight your public reputation;
if there were enormous economic, political, and social powers devoted to inculcating Wuthering beliefs in everyone, and imposing them on the whole of modern civilized society;
you would have an honest parallel.
As it is, a sensible person recognizes that Dawkins has a legitimate mission, and a well supported list of objections, to the role of religion and the behaviors of religious people in modern civilizations.
And more than that, the attacks on his "arrogance" and other alleged character flaws are at best exaggerated, and in essence simply ad hominum arguments employed by those who lack any others.
As far as creationists in science, there are tens of thousands of them. Always have been. They've done quite a bit of good work, in certain fields. What's the issue again?
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The two previously most annoying TV Professors:
Michio Kaku
and
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Richard Dawkins
have now been eclipsed by a young upstart
Brian Cox
There's another sciforumer who tells me off when I talk about punching people in the face,
but that Brian Cox is just asking for it.
Perhaps all three could get together in a program about
Creation v Science in Alternative Universes.
Ideally they should go to an alternative Universe, and stay there.
Question:
Should egoistic, overpaid, media hungry University Science Professors be allowed in Science?
Michio Kaku
and
Richard Dawkins
have now been eclipsed by a young upstart
Brian Cox
There's another sciforumer who tells me off when I talk about punching people in the face,
but that Brian Cox is just asking for it.
Perhaps all three could get together in a program about
Creation v Science in Alternative Universes.
Ideally they should go to an alternative Universe, and stay there.
Question:
Should egoistic, overpaid, media hungry University Science Professors be allowed in Science?
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well Saquist
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That's why American Laws protect you just if you think different than the rest of the people, and that's why we have a Religion telling us the following.
But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you (Luke 6:27-28).
While other religions are telling us to KILL your enemies... How about that?
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That's why American Laws protect you just if you think different than the rest of the people, and that's why we have a Religion telling us the following.
But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you (Luke 6:27-28).
While other religions are telling us to KILL your enemies... How about that?
On the HISTORY channel?
What was your impression?
I won't respond. We are going well off topic.
And it also says to kill your own family and friends if they believe in other gods.
Deuteronomy 13: 6
And even if they do believe in the god of the bible you should hate your family anyway:
Luke 14:26
How about that?
BUt BUT
Look what scientific people are saying about the scientific Method
http://digitalcommons.liberty.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1010&context=educ_fac_pubs
Oh well....
Look what scientific people are saying about the scientific Method
http://digitalcommons.liberty.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1010&context=educ_fac_pubs
Oh well....
I dunno. what are scientific people saying about the scientific method?
The authors of that document:
Professors of what? Education?