So, does that mean you will be using tolls?
No.
But I also don't quite understand what you're referring to. "Tolls"?
What if the post is blatantly negative in regards to a particular political issue and provokes a response from someone on the opposite side?
Good question. My answer:
too bad. Each member is responsible for his or her own actions.
Look. This place is a website, and people need to respect that fact. Nothing should so upset you that you cannot handle the real-life consequences for your real-life actions on this website. If somebody says something that is evil, horrible and so terrible that you cannot control yourself, then you should be willing to accept the consequences for your own actions. I'm tired of this game of, "Well, he said something and provoked me. . ."
Tough shit. Ignore the bastard. Report the post. Stay on topic. If you follow this plan then you'll get to revel in all the glory when that provocative jerk gets banned for an appropriate amount of time.
Don't have the patience to wait for a moderator to get involved? Fine, will you get to join him/her on the ban list.
How do you discern what is an attack or negative stab....when the whole of the political world thrives off such things?
I can't and won't sit here and try to include every nuance of my management philosophy. But suffice it to say, it's easy enough to see who's being an jerk (fowl language, attacks at the person, etcetera).
Even the dumbest member is capable of seeing what is a flame war. Here's my advice:
Avoid them, and never worry AGAIN about getting banned.
Why not religion as well ?.
Not my subforum. Though, you bring up a good point. James and SkinWalker manager their forum. Though, nobody can say that James is averse to banning violators of the rules.
I see some folks who find any excuse to go and swear at any religion or religious folks .
Great points, but again, I can only speak for the fora I moderate.
Okay I am not religious but seeing the same person swearing at the same religion day after day becomes kinda harassment to the other memebers .
He or she can not swear at the members directly so they use religion as a scape goat . Just another thought.....
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I agree. But this will have to fly, for now, in the WE&P fora.
"attempt" is the keyword here. your efforts to "discern".
in the meantime we have a member that is banned due to what could possibly be a faulty judgment.
Who's judgment? Two people have been banned. Buffalo for 30 days for violating repeated requests NOT to flame and/or attack PJ. Vega for one WHOLE day (his first ban, AFAIK) for hate speech against Muslims.
The only "bad judgment" here is on their part.
collateral damage? cost of doing business in sci? blush and apologize? multi million dollar payout?
Be melodramatic? Make empty points? Cry wolf? Be my guest, Gustav.
afford us some insurance from what could possibly be unfair decrees by giving the option of mounting a defense of one's actions prior to any punitive measures.
I'm not perfect. You can always appeal my decisions to James or Plazma. They can over-rule me on any issue. Beyond that, I cannot nor will offer any "insurance" for "unfair decrees". Sciforums is a private club, don't break the rules and you have little to worry about.
is your sapience beyond reproach?
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Nope. That's why there is James and Plazma.
with this alleged busy work schedule, can we be assured of something more than the most cursory of judgments?
Yes. See, unlike you Gustav, I can apparetnly READ messages and determine poor behavior. Four hours isn't necessary to read a flame war and issue bans for that action.
What do you want, an internal investigation by some bureaucracy?
Jesus. Give me a break. You're bringing up non sequiturs left and right.
Here's how it works, and in fact HAS ALWAYS WORKED: rule violators used to get warned. If the violation is accidental or light-hearted, I'll still issue a warning. But if it's serious, and/or if you should know better, you'll be banned for a minimum of one day. This isn't something new and revolutionary. Just a lot stricter.
And, as always, you can take your case to James and Plazma. They'll override me, they have in the past.
i say forget zero tolerance.
sci is way too cool for that kind of crap
I say you're wrong. There are rules for a reason. And some people feverishly break them. Now they can sit at home and feverishly think of another forum to join.
why put your credentials and credibility out on the line like that?
why erect bogeymen when really, there are none?
None of my "credentials" are on the line. And, in fact, I've received more complaints about lax rules then the strict ones.
And the bogeyman? Gustav, this is your MO. You're a counter-culturalist, counter-anything
ist. I could win the lottery tomorrow and offer to buy everybody here a new car and you'd bitch and complain about how I'm not doing enough, or some-such. I am not fooling myself into believing that ANYTHING I say to you will ever satisfy you. So, this will be my only good faith effort at doing that. If you disagree with my actions, feel free to PM James or Plazma.
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