So you lacked faith too. Interesting, that appears to be a pattern. Needs a poll.
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Why are christians so stupid?
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2 things
1. I completely disagree with M*W's claim that Christians are stupid many are quite intelligent
2. But that doesn't change the fact that many of the scriptures are still flawed, not only in Christianity but other religions too.
an example being: in Genesis God brings a flood down on the earth to kill all humanity accept for Noah and his family and a number of animals. It rains for 40 days until "the mountains were covered to a depth of 15 cubits" and then they floated at that level for 150 days.
now if we assume that the climate has stayed the same and that Everest has remained its current height since the beginning of time then Noah would have surely died because of 2 reasons.
1. he would have frozen to death. they would have been in -19 Celsius temperatures for 5 months with nothing but maybe the equivalent in warmth to a burlap sack.
2. The air is about 33% thinner at that height and along with freezing to death they would have been struggling to be able to get a full breath of air.
Between those 2 factors everyone on board the ark should have been dead within 2-4 months and would have never made it to land safely on mount Ararat.
1. I completely disagree with M*W's claim that Christians are stupid many are quite intelligent
2. But that doesn't change the fact that many of the scriptures are still flawed, not only in Christianity but other religions too.
an example being: in Genesis God brings a flood down on the earth to kill all humanity accept for Noah and his family and a number of animals. It rains for 40 days until "the mountains were covered to a depth of 15 cubits" and then they floated at that level for 150 days.
now if we assume that the climate has stayed the same and that Everest has remained its current height since the beginning of time then Noah would have surely died because of 2 reasons.
1. he would have frozen to death. they would have been in -19 Celsius temperatures for 5 months with nothing but maybe the equivalent in warmth to a burlap sack.
2. The air is about 33% thinner at that height and along with freezing to death they would have been struggling to be able to get a full breath of air.
Between those 2 factors everyone on board the ark should have been dead within 2-4 months and would have never made it to land safely on mount Ararat.
Is there any evidence for either's existence.
Nice, relevance to their senselessness please, being happy doesn't change a thing.
people in a asylums are happy, Retarded/down syndrome people are happy.
I can make that judgment, as it happened so many times before. If she would not obey her god, could she really call herself a Christian.
Le 18:4"You must obey my laws and be careful to follow my decrees. I am the Lord your God".
Acts 5:29 "We must obey God rather than men!
1Jo 5:3 "This is love for God: to obey his commands. And his commands are not burdensome"
Very likely given the right incentive.
The religious have learnt nothing over the centuries.
but it wasn't atheism, that caused them to be evil, atheism has no dogma, no churches, and above all no beliefs.
If your not atheist now, then you never were.
Why not, if given the same incentives they do the same thing else, they are just pseudo religious.
Sorry dont think so, atheists have verifiable evidence, for there statements, The religious are only being bitchy.
Oh wow. do come on now your being childish of course they can, until the delusion takes precedence.
Agreed, but those are the pseudo religious.
As I said before, the history of the religion, give me reason to be careful.
Got it.
That because throughout history people have killed other people simply because they didn't follow there religion.
There are two relevant definitions of faith:
1) Unconditional acceptance that some assertion is true.
2) Unconditional trust.
Before I was an atheist, I had unconditional acceptance that what religion claimed was true (that includes the existence of 'God', angels, demons, etc.). During that time I didn't value truth too highly... but that changed. Truth began giving me alot of pleasure (even if it was an uncomfortable truth) and I began valuing truth very highly. For an assertion to be true, it has to correspond with reality and it was quite obvious that the assertion 'God' exists had no correspondence with reality. My unconditional acceptance of assertions then became conditional. Of course, I couldn't unconditionally or even conditionally trust in 'God' because such a life form wasn't present.
The intellectual level of this op is underwhelming.
I have no problem understanding why someone would adopt the teachings of Christ. It's his old man Jehovah, that bewilders me.
"Prove you love me, Kill your son. Psych! Just checking."
I realize this puts me at odds with Judaism, I have troubles with that. As Jews themselves are not a problem for me, but their god... Ugh! As I said, I have trouble resolving this.
I'm inclined to think the being/god Moses conjured may not be the being/god of genesis.
But I'm not going to study the old testament to find the proofs.
Trust is unconditional, conditional trust is not trust.
How in your opinion, would the assertion "God exists" correspond with reality in a way that would convince you of its truth?
How in your opinion, would the assertion "God exists" correspond with reality in a way that would convince you of its truth?
But it needs to be earned.
How does a random stranger count? Would you sign over all your worldly belongings to your spouse?
non-sequitur.
How does my post fit in with the other post?
MW,
Come on, you're trolling on this one. You know the answers to all these questions already.
There is a strong correlation between higher intelligence and atheism; however, there are plenty of smart theists in the world.
Genetics. All humans have a survival mechanism whereby we project qualities of entity A onto entity B. The most prevalent aspect of this mechanism in today's society is anthropomorphism... where humans project human qualities onto non-human entities. That's why we have bugs bunny (human+rabit), mother nature (human+nature), father time (human+time), the grim reaper (human+death), and of course 'God' (human+Sun/galaxy/universe/reality).
Then of course there's resources. Before the last few hundred years, acquiring resources to survive was tough. If your beliefs were compatible with a groups beliefs then they would be very likely to share their resources with you; thus, increasing your chances of survival. That is why our species is prone to believe.
Then of course we are a social species that have alot of psychological needs. Religion satiates many of those needs and it is easy and convenient.
The logic is religion makes them feel good. They value how they feel more than truth. It's actually very logical.
People value and are attracted to what satiates their needs / gives them pleasure.
Come on, you're trolling on this one. You know the answers to all these questions already.
There is a strong correlation between higher intelligence and atheism; however, there are plenty of smart theists in the world.
Genetics. All humans have a survival mechanism whereby we project qualities of entity A onto entity B. The most prevalent aspect of this mechanism in today's society is anthropomorphism... where humans project human qualities onto non-human entities. That's why we have bugs bunny (human+rabit), mother nature (human+nature), father time (human+time), the grim reaper (human+death), and of course 'God' (human+Sun/galaxy/universe/reality).
Then of course there's resources. Before the last few hundred years, acquiring resources to survive was tough. If your beliefs were compatible with a groups beliefs then they would be very likely to share their resources with you; thus, increasing your chances of survival. That is why our species is prone to believe.
Then of course we are a social species that have alot of psychological needs. Religion satiates many of those needs and it is easy and convenient.
The logic is religion makes them feel good. They value how they feel more than truth. It's actually very logical.
People value and are attracted to what satiates their needs / gives them pleasure.
Not always. I refer to children.
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