We never went to the moon.

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  1. FatFreddy Registered Senior Member

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    Any junior high student can see that this is not consistent with what's happening in this fake footage.

    Apollo 15 Landing

    (start watching at the 1:53 time mark)


    The movement is consistent with the air explanation. Whether the flaps would get blown over the top would depend on how much wind there was. Maybe there was enough to raise them almost to the top but not over the top.


    You people have never debunked this.

    http://www.geschichteinchronologie.com/atmosphaerenfahrt/28_moon-stones-from-Earth-ENGL.html
    (excerpt)
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    "Moonstones" have no possibility to be compared on moon itself, because there is no possibility of a neutral control on the "moon". So, it's permitted for anybody to claim this or that stone would come from the "moon". Also when certain "moon probes" are said having landed on the moon also this is not controllable. And it's not possible to control if these "moon probes" have brought stones or dust from the "moon" to the Earth or not either. At the end the super powers "USA" and "SU" claim together to the public that "moonstones" would be "very similar" to "Earth stones". This "similarity" brings up some new questions
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    What Happened On the Moon? Part 2 - Environmental Dangers & The Trouble with Rockets

    (1:05:40 time mark)


    You just have the attitude that you have. The Rocks are not proof.


    The proof that the LRO photos are photoshopped
     
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  3. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    Okay, get back to us when you've finished Junior High School.
     
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  5. David C The print that nails this troofer Registered Senior Member

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    Prove its fake. Your spam reply is the appeal to imaginary support. Any student with any basic physics can work out the psi for the engine. The reason we see dust being blown at that height is because it is a vacuum and the central area of the exhaust stream has not expanded out.

    You are a big fraud Fats. You were asked to show your maths and failed to do so.

    How utterly stupid. So now the slow moving vehicle is being hit by wind strong enough to support maybe half a kilogram of flap but not to move any of the surface material. Fail again.

    You are just too deluded and fixated to see any logic or reason. You think your puny understanding of physics amounts to something. You are a complete embarrassment.


    Nothing to debunk. Some idiot makes a statement in poor English that shows appallingly inept geology knowledge.

    Hey Fats, if I answer this shit, what is the betting you ignore it?

    http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/howdoweknow.htm

    My renowned geologist trumps your idiot.


    The extremely useless and dishonest David Percy. Summarise in your own words what your argument is. Use citations to support it. Using liars who have only the goal to make money rather than accuracy, how typical of you!


    The rocks are 100% irrefutable proof that man landed on the Moon. Your attitude is evade, divert and wave your arms. You are pathetic.



    This will surprise you. He did prove that the image used was photoshopped. It was.

    The problem is that hunchbacked, the imbecile who claimed Aldrin weightless in space was underwater! , hasn't analysed the source for that image. The LROC images are absolutely vast. The Apollo landing sites cover maybe 1/2 % of the total image.

    It is impossible to show the Apollo section without enlarging it and cropping it. Just for good measure, they boost the contrast and brightness. They use Photoshop to do this! So your pitiful source of information is really pitiful.

    It won't stop you spamming that video at a future date though.
     
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  7. David C The print that nails this troofer Registered Senior Member

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    Hey Fats you old Fraud,

    Gonna tell us how they filmed this video?

    1. Massive area of many square miles, all grey soil, no vegetation.
    2. Massive area of many square miles all evenly lit up and extremely bright.
    3. Distant mountains never get any nearer.
    4. The whole reflectivity of the ground changes as the LRV changes across Sun.
    5. Astronauts in unbroken sequence have only the Sun in their visor.
    6. Every single shadow is crisp black and well defined.


    Try again failure:

    The rocks are proof.
    LROC is proof.
    LRRR is proof.
    The video showing impossible to fake lunar gravity is proof
    The film of the LRV you ignore is proof.
    The digging a trench video is massive proof.
    Japanese topography corroboration is proof.
    Third party tracking is proof.
    Jodrell Bank tracking is proof.
    Not one single thing debunks any of the above.
    Not one single piece of evidence exists to give an alternative to any of the above.

    You would be ejected forcefully from the Debate Hall for being incompetent. You are the Black Knight. You know the missions are real.

    THAT is the real bottom line!
     
  8. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Then learn some physics beyond 8th grade and you'll see there's nothing inconsistent there.

    If there wasn't enough wind to "blow them over the top" there wasn't enough wind to lift them in the first place. (Hint - it is harder for wind to lift a flap when it is 10 degrees from the horizontal than when it is 90 degrees from the horizontal.) Try it.

    Again, your argument seems to be "I am too stupid to understand the physics, so therefore I don't understand the physics, so therefore any depiction of physics must be fake!" By those standards, the Earth is flat and the sky is a big dome with stars hung from it.
     
  9. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    Waiting for "Earth is a snow globe" theories.
     
  10. FatFreddy Registered Senior Member

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    This is nothing.
    http://apollofake.atspace.co.uk/

    I'm no authority but I found this in the comment section of this video.


    (excerpt)
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    What about the lunar rover sitting on the moon surface with no tire tracks around it? How did it get there? There were film projection techniques available that could have been used to keep the "distant" mountains in this video at a constant magnification as the rover drove toward the screen on which the mountain scenery was being projected. ALL Apollo moon landings were done during Nixon's time as president (tricky Dick), need I say more?
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    Wouldn't that happen on an outdoor movie set doing what the above link explains?


    I can't see what you're trying to prove here.

    The Mystery of the Apollo Sun


    Physics of the Apollo Moon Reflection



    Pictures are fakable so there's no prove there.


    I don't know how many times I've posted this on this thread.

    What Happened On the Moon? Part 2 - Environmental Dangers & The Trouble with Rockets

    (1:17:00 time mark)


    Lunar rover on the moon. Was it a RC model? (Extended Edition)



    We read that a bunch of third parties tracked Apollo but did it really happen? Read this info about the media.
    http://www.sciforums.com/threads/we-never-went-to-the-moon.145207/page-26#post-3475851

    Third parties can be paid to lie. The US has a lot of control in the world.


    MoonFaker: Russia, Jodrell Bank & Frequencies. PART 1
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkNjv1uNMiQ&list=PLBC56A5BBF977D1C5


    It looks like footage of earth gravity shown in slow-motion.


    You haven't shown anything that could be considered proof. Nothing you've posted as "Proof" makes the anomalies that prove it was all faked go away.
    http://www.sciforums.com/threads/we-never-went-to-the-moon.145207/page-41#post-3497830
    http://www.sciforums.com/threads/we-never-went-to-the-moon.145207/page-46#post-3513302


    The case was closed a long time ago. You people just won't recognize it.


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    You people also destroyed your credibility a long time ago by the stands you took on the Chinese spacewalk and Jay Windley's* analysis of the "Dust-free sand" issue.
    http://www.sciforums.com/threads/we-never-went-to-the-moon.145207/page-33#post-3494252
    http://www.sciforums.com/threads/we-never-went-to-the-moon.145207/page-15#post-3391329


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    http://www.clavius.org/about.html

     
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  11. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    Good, stay busy with that bullshit. Keeps you out of mischief.
     
  12. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    The hallmark of the loony conspiracy theorist is the blast of Youtube videos. I think that people with limited ability to process factual data (i.e. conspiracy theorists) have a lot of trouble reading and understanding quantitative information, and so revert to the mode of communication they have the most experience with - watching TV.
     
  13. David C The print that nails this troofer Registered Senior Member

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    My god, he's gone full spam on us. This is laborious.
     
  14. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    The University of Boobtube grants Ph.D.'s indescriminately.
     
  15. David C The print that nails this troofer Registered Senior Member

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    Without doubt you are obfuscating. You cannot be that stupid that you compare 20 minutes of DAC film footage at 20FPS to a single image edited with MODERN software. If you do, you are really pathetic. Now answer properly!!

    1. Massive area of many square miles, all grey soil, no vegetation. WHERE did all the grey soil come from, who pout it there, where is the paper trail. Where on Earth does that area exist with big mountains?
    2. Massive area of many square miles all evenly lit up and extremely bright. Your stupid claim doesn't work for a film sequence done in 1971.

    I refer you to point 5. Also, what magical system keeps static mountains and backgrounds in all directions with no visible projection. It is clearly solid and has noticeable depth and shading.

    3. Distant mountains never get any nearer. Now, try again!

    The Moon is a retro-reflective surface, sending light back at source. When travelling down Sun, the reflection back is extremely bright. Across Sun, the brightness diminishes significantly. The Earth is NOT a retro-reflective surface.

    4. The whole reflectivity of the ground changes as the LRV changes across Sun. Identify where on Earth this could have occurred and how the surface would possibly do this!

    So you fire off your pathetic spammed videos that have already been debunked!


    The point is that there are no cameras, projectors or anything visible on the entire surrounding area. How is that possible?



    Yes there is. The entire list of pictures counts 100% as proof. YOU are the joker who needs to PROVE they were faked. Good luck with that.



    I'm sure you don't. You spam so much it is painful. Nothing in that useless video is an answer to the LRRR. I know your spam response, so I guess you just spammed the wrong cut and paste. PROVE they were unmanned. One single tiny piece of evidence. Paper trails on testing, development, launch, tracking, any single testimony or video or picture. You have zero. NOTHING. The evidence stands.

    A fake non-expert and a moronic claim that the LRV footage is a model car. If you believe that you are way more stupid than you appear!



    Prove they lied. The evidence stands. You seem to think your ludicrous arm waving and insanely simplistic statements are proof that the evidence is suspect. You really have no clue how to assess evidence.





    The evidence stands.



    The problem is that the soild to fall at Earth speed makes the astronauts move at crazy speeds. What things "look like" to you is clouded in your delusion and useless understanding.

    Yes I have, it all stands. Nothing you typed makes it go away. Your entire useless post is nothing but hot air with nothing concrete as rebuttal.



    None of the so called anomalies are unexplained. None of your crap observations and conclusions make the enormous amount of evidence go away. The missions occurred as history states.



    Yes, but sadly for you, 10 years on and you still can't see it's you who is the fake.



    Moron spam. You are the least credible person I have ever conversed with.

    Anyone who thinks the flag moves in water like that is lying or incredibly dumb. I cannot accurately determine which.
     
  16. FatFreddy Registered Senior Member

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    You just destroyed you credibility big time (again).


    Viewers:

    Check out the second to the last link in this post.
    http://www.sciforums.com/threads/we-never-went-to-the-moon.145207/page-15#post-3391329

    All of you pro-Apollo posters maintain that the Chinese spacewalk was real. This totally destroys your credibility. None of you has any credibility.


    edit fifteen minutes later
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    Please don't lamely say this is off-topic. NASA's official position is that the Chinese spacewalk was real so this is relevant to the Apollo issue.
     
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  17. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    You have to understand something here. You telling us we have no credibility is like Kim Jong Un telling us we are evil. We take it as a compliment.

    As far as we can tell, you don't know the first thing about physics, aerodynamics, optics or orbital dynamics - and the more you post the more you reveal your complete and utter ignorance.

    I look forward to your next conspiracy theory - that the Earth is flat, or that climate change is a big hoax, or that evolution is a myth, or that the Holocaust didn't really happen. Because you saw something on Youtube.
     
  18. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    It's impossible for you to pass judgment on credibility, FF.
     
  19. David C The print that nails this troofer Registered Senior Member

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    You have no credibility. You routinely wave away evidence saying it could have been faked, therefore bullshit. You just avoided that entire last post.

    Think you are an embarrassing human being.

    ...........diversionary spam.

    Hmmmm, the zero credible joke sits in judgement. You, the crazy one who thinks flags move like that in water and magic bubbles are white, jagged and rotate, whilst getting bigger tenfold in under a metre "depth" have the audacity to say others lack credibility. And all based on your batshit crazy opinion.

    I see you have written about this on spursforum, where the viewers find you as welcome as cancer. It takes a monumental moron to think China, who clearly have the technology to reach LEO with men, would fake this rather than open the door and pop outside. I think you have what it takes.
     
  20. Michael 345 Looking for Bali in Nov Valued Senior Member

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    Don't you mean Flat Earth is a Snow Flat with Dome theory?

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  21. Michael 345 Looking for Bali in Nov Valued Senior Member

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  22. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    Great place to set up a lunatic asylum. I would pay passage for my cousins.
     
  23. Michael 345 Looking for Bali in Nov Valued Senior Member

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    You would send them to the very place which made them sick???

    You do know lunatics come from the changes in the moon?

    You are a very naughty person

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