We never went to the moon.

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These two videos show that the flag had already started moving when he got close enough to touch it.

Either you are acting dumb or are dumb. The fact that he struck it with his elbow after passing it, does not preclude another cause for the tiny movement before. Quite how you are consistently unable to grasp this is proof of your fixation.

This doesn't make the anomaly go away. Evidently, it was missed.

It wasn't "missed", the camera zooms in to get a better view! It is ridiculous to suggest that it was not seen during playback and nobody noticed.

If it were ground vibration, the vertical pole would be moving in a way to cause the horizontal rod to move. The vertical pole isn't moving.

The vertical pole most definitely is moving. Frame grabs placed side to side quite clearly show this. Anyone can verify this quite easily.

I can't see any movement of the horizontal rod but if it is moving, it's perfectly plausible that wind made the flag move and the flag made the rod move.

I can't see the vertical rod moving either, but to suggest it is wind is plain stupid. Not once during this footage is there the slightest hint of any other disturbance from body drafts or wind. It's way more plausible by a thousand times that it is in vacuum on the Moon.
 
There is other footage in which an astronaut is standing close to a flag and there is no attraction or repelling. It only happens in this footage at a point where the movement is perfectly consistent with the atmosphere explanation.

There is no other footage where he runs close enough to the flag. The clue was in the words "build up". It happens when the charge reaches a critical discharge point.

If this were the case, there would be no clear flag movement. Are you saying the flag is not really moving?

After he hits it with his elbow yes, before it's perfectly feasible that the tiny movement is a camera bloom.

Explain why the lens flares move.

As I said before, there is no visible movement of the pole or rod which makes the flag move. If it were ground vibration making the flag move, there would be visible movement of the pole and rod.

I am not concerned with what you said before a million times. The vertical rod moves and can easily be verified.

There would be points where the pebbles and rocks would make little depressions in the flag where they impacted it. There are none. The flag moves in a way that's consistent with a wall of air hitting it.

The regolith simply strikes the lower part of the pole. Not the flag!

The flag doesn't move up and down. It moves from left to right. If your scenario were the case, there would be some visible up-and-down movement.

It doesn't need to be more than a few millimetres on the Moon. You would not notice it on that camera and quality. It is perfectly feasible.

Also, look at the rest of the flag info.

What info?

This flag anomaly closes the whole case. The footage was taken in a studio.

It does not close any case and your conclusion is ludicrous. The footage in most cases encompasses vast evenly lit terrain, that would need a hangar the size of a few miles!!

The guy who did that has said some very lame things that destroyed his credibility. He agreed with Jay Windley's* lame analysis of the dust-free sand issue.

Spare us your pathetic ad hominem and address the arguments given. I would remind you that giving your bare asserted opinion as a means to dismiss other opinion is kind of moronic. Especially when the replies from those people tear your backside out!

He maintains that the Chinese spacewalk was real.

Only morons think the Chinese faked their spacewalk.

He knows the moon missions were faked as well as the hoax-believers do.

Only morons think the Apollo missions were hoaxed. Neither of those two people give
any reason to suggest they believe that idiotic claim.
 
Also, look at the rest of the flag info.
What info?
The info that's in post #21 on this page.

http://www.apollohoax.net/forum/index.php?topic=993.15

The guy who did that has said some very lame things that destroyed his credibility. He agreed with Jay Windley's* lame analysis of the dust-free sand issue.
Spare us your pathetic ad hominem and address the arguments given. I would remind you that giving your bare asserted opinion as a means to dismiss other opinion is kind of moronic. Especially when the replies from those people tear your backside out!

I forgot to link to it.
http://www.apollohoax.net/forum/index.php?topic=1118.15

Sorry.

Please look at it and tell us whether you agree with Jay Windley*.


*
http://www.clavius.org/about.html
 
These two videos show that the flag had already started moving when he got close enough to touch it.
No, it started moving once his hand was occluding the pole.

Congratulations, you just proved that he hit the flag as he walked by.
 
At least tell us what you think of Jay Windley's analysis of the dust-free sand issue.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-ever-happened.512081/page-29#post-1068254989
Again I say present your opinion.
I raised issues in my words not those of others I think that is best for us and anyone reading this.
You have the stage so why pass the mic to someone else, I want to hear your concern in your words.
Distil it and present it.
Think of me as a possible convert and present your argument to convert me.
Heck I would love to be convinced everyone has been conned so I must be an easy mark.
However I won't just roll over if the evidence you talk about is not convincing.
Your words please.
Alex
 
Again I say present your opinion.
I raised issues in my words not those of others I think that is best for us and anyone reading this.
You have the stage so why pass the mic to someone else, I want to hear your concern in your words.
Distil it and present it.
Think of me as a possible convert and present your argument to convert me.
Heck I would love to be convinced everyone has been conned so I must be an easy mark.
However I won't just roll over if the evidence you talk about is not convincing.
Your words please.
Those are my words. My username over there is Scott.
 
I don't think anyone who takes the time to read it would agree with you.
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-ever-happened.512081/page-29#post-1068254989

It must be very confusing for you. Everywhere you go, people ask you tough questions that you avoid, you get banned for ridiculous spamming and you generally get your whole case systematically torn to pieces.

You were asked what concerned you and I would venture to suggest he meant on topic concerns not total garbage about holocaust denial and a whole host of other batshit crazy conspiracies!

I'd like to hear everybody's opinion on Jay Windley's* analysis of he dust-free sand issue which is explained in the above link.

The reason for this is so that you can use it as your biased and dishonest so called credibility test Those who disagree with your clearly inept opinion get labelled as non credible and you refuse then to answer any of their points.

I would like you to respond to the long carefully written post above that you completely ignored, instead of asking for an opinion on a totally irrelevant issue that is clearly not what the evidence shows. SEE MY AVATAR!!
 
I figured you people would tap dance around this issue instead of addressing it.
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-ever-happened.512081/page-29#post-1068254989

You're between a rock and a hard place; if you agree with Jay Windley*, you'll all look silly but you can't disagree with him. Any objective truth-seeker would simply say that Jay Windley was wrong when he said that just transporting and placing large-grained dust-free sand would cause enough erosion to create enough dust to cause a dust cloud when the sand is driven over. This is such a basic issue that he wasn't simply mistaken. He was lying. That means he's most likely a paid sophist** working for a public-relations agency that was contracted by the government to engage in damage-control.

Please say whether you think he was right, or wrong.


*
http://www.clavius.org/about.html

**
http://www.whale.to/m/disin.html
https://openheartedrebel.com/2012/0...-confessions-of-a-paid-disinformation-poster/
 
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