So, K85, how did you find this thread in the Cess Pool where someone else dumped it? I don't usually post responses, but apparently you've stalked me from PhysOrg and so I'll post one final response. By the way, are you rpenner there? Here's why I'm not posting there, as copied from physorg-330 above: "QUOTE (Walter L. Wagner @ Sep 17 2007, 03:21 AM) And, if you have posters in this forum who claim to be Jesus that you argue with, why am I even bothering posting here?" and rpenner's response: "Well you missed the small point where I said you cannot argue with such logic, but you got my larger point where this forum is unprofitable to post on. So is sciforums. You want physicsforums.com but they won't even allow you to post your ideas until you have a consistent physical model." If you actually have a topic you wish to discuss, start a thread [physics, or astronomy] that is of interest - get some others to post - and then maybe I'll respond.