Raising Children Without the Concept of Sin

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Goldtop, Jan 31, 2019.

  1. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Why would you?
    You weren't instructed to do so, and your friends aren't Israelites from that specific time.

    Those laws were specific to time, place, and, circumstance.
    Nowadays folk choose to view it as a universal law, for all people, and to be enacted by anyone, and refuse to look at it from a spiritual perspective.
    If that wasn't the case, all the commandments given to Moses would be brought up, and there are many.

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  3. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    It's common sense.

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  5. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    God is "common sense"? How is God "common sense"? Judging by all the Holy Wars, knowledge of God is not such a "common sense" after all, don't you agree?
    How many Commandements were there other than the Ten, which according to Carlin was a marketing decision to begin with. "Ten" sounds "official"!

    "Many" commandments is a little vague, don't you agree? Was Moses selective as to which to use as the "official" Ten Commandments from those many other commandments?

    Who carved those commandments in the stone slabs, which Moses struggled to bring all the way down from the mountain. Did he lose a few commandments along the way?

    Again, who told you all this stuff?
     
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  7. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    James R

    Divine law is any law that is understood as deriving from a transcendent source, such as the will of God or gods, in contrast to man-made law. Divine laws are typically regarded as superior to man-made laws,] sometimes due to an understanding that their source has resources beyond human knowledge and human reason. They are accorded greater authority, and cannot be changed by human authorities.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_law

    They reflect the mind of God, the divine source.

    It means what it says.

    I don't see the point of going down this road.
    Either you can acknowledge it, or you refuse to. That is for you to come to terms with.

    Most people want what they want. A lot of those desires are a hindrances to our spiritual advancement.
    Divine laws are for the spiritual benefit of the soul.

    All transgressions of God are the original sin.
    That is the only ingredient. From there chaos ultimately ensues.

    It's not a problem that is facing humanity. It is a spiritual problem that faces humans. Humanity merely reflects that.


    Like what?

    jan
     
  8. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Write4U


    God is "common sense"? How is God "common sense"?

    Everybody knows God.
    We either accept God, or we don't.
    The fact that there are theists and atheists, support this claim.

    Did God not command Moses to tell the Israelites what is and is not lawful to them?

    I wasn't only referring to the ten commandments.

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  9. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Who does the "instructing"??
    And who does the reflecting?

    p.s. the first three commandments are pure BS. Spooky language....spooky language.....

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  10. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    What instructing?

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  11. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Your words. Post # 161

    Again, who does the instructing?
     
  12. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    They were never official

    True story

    They were the earliest version of workplace agreements

    Carved by apprentice headstone makers

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  13. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    That is just not true at all. There are many versions of God.
    Which version?
    No , it does not.
    Do you believe in Zeus?
    No, we don't know that, nor do you. All we know is that Moses told the Israelites what he believed was lawful to them.
    Ohhhh??? Another book of commandments? Wow! The Quran? It has a bunch of commandments.
    Some are even illegal. Ain't that a crock.....

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  14. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    But Moses was alone on that mountain and there was nobody else around. Something is messed up here!......

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    And if they were not the official commandments, did Moses think he was the boss over the workplace and the workplace agreement was with Moses only?

    Maybe a few people said, "Moses ain't the boss of me"!....."I've got my own commandments and they are much stricter than Moses' . "Confession won't get you off the hook in my workplace. I'll fire your ass.....you hear!??".........

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  15. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Those things are not in my head. They might be in yours.
     
  16. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    I say slavery is immoral. God doesn't. I can judge too.
     
  17. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    He found them up there

    The apprentices took them up when the had a drunken party with a few girls

    Boosting of their handwork

    Left them behind by mistake

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  18. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    What does that have to do with anything?

    That’s not documented.
    Based on the documentation, I am correct.

    Jan.
     
  19. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Catholic children, according to my wife who was raised catholic and went to catholic school.
    And received many "demerits" for asking questions, which remained unanswered.

    My wife was threatened with "hell" several times. Way to go, scaring innocent minds with death and damnation, when they have barely begun to live.
     
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  20. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    That means somebody is believing in a "false" god. That's what all the religious wars were about, no?
    Yes it is. History is full of religious wars.
    What documentation? The Bible? The Quran? Book of Mormon? The Chronicles of Mickey Mouse?

    Again, who is telling you all this knowledge? Still waiting for an authoritative answer.
     
  21. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Then we'll just have to "force" you down this road. When discussing religion you don't get to pick the rules.
    You do not have the authority.

    Again who is telling you all this? You?
     
  22. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Moses robbed a stone-masonry business? Or was it just "litter"............

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    Moses was an environmentalist? Kudos to Moses....

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    p.s. OTOH, perhaps those stone slabs were actual headstones of some very wise old timers.
    Moses read the commandments on the headstones and decided to just rob the graves rather than to waste time on cutting a stone copy. He had forgotten his stone cutting tools anyway.
     
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  23. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Why do you think slavery is ''immoral''?

    jan.
     

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