OOK, Now i'm confused, did Atlantis existed?

[draqon]

What evidence do you have for that supposition?
Oh wait, the same evidence you have for god being real: i.e. he must be real because we couldn't have just imagined him.
Does the same apply to Lord of the Rings? All of science fiction?

Dywyddyr, look at yourself as an example. You never existed before. Before you were born there was nothing, not even dust of you. But faith and idea alone gave rise to a concept of baby that was due to be born...a man who grew now to be Dywyddyr.

Where would be now if there was no faith? :shrug:

 

[Dywyddyr]

Dywyddyr, look at yourself as an example. You never existed before. Before you were born there was nothing, not even dust of you. But faith and idea alone gave rise to a concept of baby that was due to be born...a man who grew now to be Dywyddyr.

Where would be now if there was no faith? :shrug:

"But faith and idea alone"?
I think you're forgetting (or ignoring) little things like biology, etc.
Or are you now going to claim that snails have faith? After all snails have baby snails...
Trees have faith?

Plus, of course, that argument entirely negates your previous one.
In that you claimed that Utopia (and by extension other concepts such as dragons) were based on real things/ places and NOW you're saying all it requires is "faith and idea".
Tell me Draq, do YOU have a clue as to what your position is, because I'm losing track here...

 

[draqon]

Dywyddyr "to a concept of a baby"

First a dream, than action, and now you.

 

[Dywyddyr]

A baby, for your information, (you may need help with this) is NOT a "concept" (although I'm sure there's a good pun re: conception somewhere in there).
And also, for your information, some babies arrive without being wanted. What does that do for your "dream, then action"?

 

[draqon]

A baby, for your information, (you may need help with this) is NOT a "concept" (although I'm sure there's a good pun re: conception somewhere in there).
And also, for your information, some babies arrive without being wanted. What does that do for your "dream, then action"?

I am lost. I don't know. I have to think about this for a long time to answer you.

 

[madethesame]

it was city of demon teacher Shukra.
Indian God Shiva destroyed it.