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[perplexity]

Harm done?

Do you mind if I call you by your real name or would that be harmful?

It was news to me but around here, apparently, it is thought to be harmful to call somebody by their real name, as given by their parents.

With sufficent effort and ingenuity it is possible to discover all sorts of harm in just about anything that comes, sex, friendship, criticism, truth, talk, gifts, control, you name it, there is a harm to be complained of, and harms yet to be declared, here a harm, there a harm, everywhere a harm, harm.

You don't see yourself and your own actions at all, Ron.

Anyone can wield the sword of truth. But fools chop off limbs and heads, even though what they set out to do was to break the chains.

First Jenyar made my life a living hell, and then you came in to impersonate the devil himself.
I'm sure you both had good intentions -- but they lead straight to hell.

You have nothing I want. Leave me alone.

I could go on, with dozens of similar quotes to amuse except of course for the harm of it.
Provoked by the whining about the whining, I'd just like to be clear as to where the whining came from.
My sin was to call the tantrum of a spoiled child for what it is.

--- Ron.

 

[The Devil Inside]

It was news to me but around here, apparently, it is thought to be harmful to call somebody by their real name, as given by their parents.

uh..it is basic internet etiquette.

 

[perplexity]

uh..it is basic internet etiquette.

So it hurts, does it, to be somebody?

Boo hoo.

As I was brought up it is polite to introduce yourself, and those who fail to are creeps, crooks or imbeciles.

--- Ron.

 

[The Devil Inside]

it took you this long to realize that i was a creep?

you take yourself waaay too seriously, and the most important thing that this thread indicates is that you rely waaaaaaaaaay too heavily on the internet for your sense of self.

 

[guthrie]

So it hurts, does it, to be somebody?

Boo hoo.

As I was brought up it is polite to introduce yourself, and those who fail to are creeps, crooks or imbeciles.

--- Ron.

Well, thanks for smearing everyone with the same brush.

 

[perplexity]

Well, thanks for smearing everyone with the same brush.

"everyone" betrays the company you keep.

On other discussion forums that I have belonged to, individual members make themselves known deliberately, to establish their respectable credentials and to do business, or to make aquaintance with others of like mind.

--- Ron.

 

[spuriousmonkey]

it took you this long to realize that i was a creep?

you take yourself waaay too seriously, and the most important thing that this thread indicates is that you rely waaaaaaaaaay too heavily on the internet for your sense of self.

I thought you said you never made spelling mistakes. I highlighted them for you.

waaay - way

waaaaaaaaaay - way

 

[perplexity]

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you take yourself waaay too seriously, and the most important thing that this thread indicates is that you rely waaaaaaaaaay too heavily on the internet for your sense of self.

Do you live on your own?

It is not just about me. I have a family to mind. Stories posted to the internet get around and affect other people.
A posting could come up on a google search and be trusted from that, with no understanding of the background to it.
In years gone by I have been accused of working for the secret services of the USA, all sorts of ridiculous nonsense, total fiction but with somebody somewhere likely to believe it.

--- Ron.

 

[The Devil Inside]

Do you live on your own?

It is not just about me. I have a family to mind. Stories posted to the internet get around and affect other people.
A posting could come up on a google search and be trusted from that, with no understanding of the background to it.
In years gone by I have been accused of working for the secret services of the USA, all sorts of ridiculous nonsense, total fiction but with somebody somewhere likely to believe it.

--- Ron.

i am an american in my mid twenties, living in belgium. i live with my (soon to be) wife.
i too, have been accused of all sorts of ridiculous shit in my life. but i dont whine about it. i laugh at people that think they know me well enough to make wild assumptions about my past.

why dont you?

 

[The Devil Inside]

I thought you said you never made spelling mistakes. I highlighted them for you.

waaay - way

waaaaaaaaaay - way

dont make me come over there.

 

[perplexity]

.. i laugh at people that think they know me well enough to make wild assumptions about my past.

why dont you?

If not nipped in the bud the gossip proliferates, so my habitual discipline is to stick diligently to the truth, to keep the record straight, and to hope for others to follow suit.

I am also unfortunately inclined to care for the welfare of those who delude themselves.

If whining is all that you see in that, then I think it says more about you than it does about me.
In my mid twenties I used to think that it all goes by, that everyday was a new day.
In my fifties I got to realise that stuff stays with you, everything you do eventually comes to fruition, one way or another.

--- Ron.

 

[The Devil Inside]

then perhaps you need to find new company that you dont disdain so heavily.

 

[perplexity]

then perhaps you need to find new company that you dont disdain so heavily.

That had already crossed my mind.

Thanks anyway for the suggestion.

It might be more pleasant to be with individuals not so keen to disdain each other so heavily.

I wonder how many of them here would actually want to meet each other, face to face.

--- Ron.

 

[The Devil Inside]

my anaconda dont want none unless you got buns, hun.

 

[spuriousmonkey]

The rattlesnake would be the proper patriotic ophidian. The anaconda is native to often communist minded terrorist countries of South America.

 

[James R]

perplexity:

It was news to me but around here, apparently, it is thought to be harmful to call somebody by their real name, as given by their parents.

It seems another brief lesson in internet etiquette and basic morality is in order.

One of the advantages of the internet for many is the anonymity it offers. They are free to express views and yet maintain their privacy.

One of the basic tenets of privacy laws in those countries which have such things is that individuals have control over their own personal information. If a government agency, for example, collects information on a person's health. they should have the right to view those records. Moreover, if information is to be used for purposes other than which it was collected in the first place, the subject must agree to that.

On internet forums, you may have noticed, people often go by nicknames or "handles", which bear no relationship to their real names. They choose to withhold personal details. They do this for many reasons. They do it to avoid stalkers. They do it to maintain their privacy. They do it so that their expressed views cannot affect their jobs. In short, there are many reasons to maintain anonymity.

If a person chooses to publish their real name, address and phone number on the internet, that is up to them. Given my own experiences with some unbalanced people on the internet, I would certainly advise anybody against doing that, but that's another issue.

What is not polite or acceptable is for another person to publish somebody's personal information on the internet without their explicit consent.

If you cannot work out why this might be, think about whether you would like your name, home address, income details, children's names, phone number etc. to be published on the internet without your consent. Maybe you'd be fine with that. If so, you'd be in a very small minority. Regardless, I am now informing you, for future reference, that most people would not think this is acceptable.

You will do better on net forums if you observe this rule of netiquette in future.

 

[invert_nexus]

It is about harm in progress, harm yet to be done, if you let it.

God. You're such a pussy.

Harm done? By who? By Water? She gets sick of your shit months ago and tells you so. Directly. Gives you the brush off. Leaves. Hasn't been seen on the forum at all for a month (because of you, I might add.)

And you speak of harm being done and still to come?

The harm is self-inflicted, Ron. And you're too fucking weak to admit that you hold your own whip.

Get.The.Fuck.Over.It.

And. I know it's not so easy to just 'get over it.' But, at the least, shut the fuck up about it. It should be fairly obvious that none of us want to fucking hear about it.

You were doing pretty good there for a while, but this thing with James brought it all back out in you.

I just can't believe how incredibly ignorant you are that you're now holding James responsible for your inability to go on and on and on about it.

Poor Ron. Eternal Victim. You'll buy yourself a cross next and crucify yourself in your back yard.



And was that a private message up there?

You're really a sad little person, maybe someday you'll figure that out. But, it's doubtful. People rarely make it to your age with the ability to 'figure it out' still in their future.



Also. Your tirade against internet anonymity is tiresome. As has been stated, if people want to give names then that's their affair. Not yours. You're a creep for taking it on yourself to take someone else's privacy in your own hands. Not only their privacy but their safety.

Of course, you're the type of person that they want to be safe from.

Ironic, that.

 

[perplexity]

perplexity:
It seems another brief lesson in internet etiquette and basic morality is in order.

To the contrary, James, what is obviously in order is a lesson in the comprehension of ordinary English, or is this more because of a deliberate disengenuity with regard to my intended point?

As I had previously pointed out, the person concerned had evidently chosen to reveal the said detail, on this very forum, subsequently content, obviously, for the name to be used. Did you bother even to read the previous thread I had refered to, where the question of permission was already discussed, explicity? That is what was news to me, the extreme hypocrisy, the lack of integrity in expecting a principle to apply in one instance, notwithstanding an opposite opinion from the very same person elsewhere.

Kindly desist, therefore, from attempting to infer that I had ignored the consideration when the opposite was in fact the case, and demonstrably so. As a matter of fact the very issue had previously been discussed, online and in public, here and elsewhere, with the very same person on which previous occasion the person was definitely not against me.

Please mind that we are not mind readers, not accountable, please, to anticipate insane intentions.

If a particular person intends a change of personal policy then it is up to the person to advertise the same. Prior to the present fuss over particular deletions, I had seen no notice whatsoever of such a change or objection, in public or in private, on any occasion, nor even was a reason supplied to precede the drama.

If, also, there is a local rule to be observed then please, by all means publish the said rule, and advertise henceforth the opportunity to see it.

--- Ron.

 

[invert_nexus]

As I had previously pointed out, the person concerned had evidently chosen to reveal the said detail, on this very forum, subsequently content, obviously, for the name to be used.

Funny. Are you referring to my comment about how she told me that she hadn't given you permission to give out her name? But that she really didn't mind?

Well. That doesn't matter, Ron. She never gave permission. You took it on yourself. You invaded her privacy because you felt that good people should share their names with all and sundry. You, in the manner of a controlling boyfriend, took it upon yourself to choose for her.

But, that's not really the issue, to me.

The issue is the rest of the shit you keep spewing. The private details of your relationship with her The things she said to you in private.

Private, Ron.

Keeping things private doesn't mean that they're to be despised or 'hidden'.


Do you walk around with your nutsack hanging out all day? Are you ashamed of your nutsack?

If Water wants her nutsack on display, she can dispaly it herself.

But, that's neither here nor there.
As always, the focus here should be on you rather than her.
You're the one here doing this all again. And yet still blaming her for it.

Blame is handy, yes?

 

[The Devil Inside]

i have posted a "cliff notes" version of the last 10 years of my life, previously.

now, if i had told another member in a private discussion, would it be decent or fair for that member to post the details? no.

this isnt even an issue of "internet etiquette", as i previously thought. this is an issue of common human decency. apparently, your vehement defense of such an action implies that you have none.