sorry that was not directed to wards you, and yes i do agree with what your saying about the ottomans etc, people all ways try to take credit for stuff that clearly was not of there doing, i mean the Germans invented the can opener during the world wars, but a Canadian stole the idea and copy righted it and made it as his own invention, I used a Canadian example so i didn't look biased.
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sorry that was not directed to wards you, and yes i do agree with what your saying about the ottomans etc, people all ways try to take credit for stuff that clearly was not of there doing, i mean the Germans invented the can opener during the world wars, but a Canadian stole the idea and copy righted it and made it as his own invention, I used a Canadian example so i didn't look biased.
yeah, but, that's because it was all one civilisation, built from many civilisation in one, all mixed in one, you can't say that civilisation, cause, all were mixed, in what is called, the islmaic civilisation, inlike toaday, or the later modern ages, we no longer use the term muslim invetion, for example, it was there a univercity guy in tunisia that inveted new mathemathical equations, we don't say a muslim invetion in maths, we say a tunisian invention in maths, also in those days of newtow for example, we would sayfor that country,
as for the muslim civilisation at that time, many civilisations and culutures were one, like, a civilisation called "islamique" forget that you know what islamique or muslim means, consider it a name
well, yeah, can you explain it more? more simply,
well, you got a very good point, in the muslim civilisation, there were many eras, different kings, and, different educational hubes, and different scientific hubes by time, like the baghda libaray, wich christians burned it all in their crusaded, also in egypt, also in Kairouan, knowing that Kairouan toaday, (the old city side) is tooooo small considering to how it was before the christian crusades and the previous eras of collaption, also it was there spain, and they called it "andalos", so, like different ages
also, most inventors weren't persians, also weren't arabs, you can't say most or least, cause all gave alot of inventions and improvements, also, the arabian race, don't exist, at least it's genes still exists in all of us, the real arabs are who lived in the middle east, at the arabian desert, thousand year ago, and before, those were the pure arabs, cause, before islam, the arabs were very carefull not to mixe with other races, they wanted to keep their original race, also, after islam, the arabian tribes, started to mixe, cause islam called for mixation, and to be opened on other tribes, and nations, anyway, by time, the original arabian race, started to disippear, so tecknickly, toaday,we're not arabs, but we're ashes from arabs.
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Lastly. So? What were the TOP 5 inventions or ideas that came from the Arab Empire?[/QUOTE]
Arab empire, hmm, i'm not very good at history, but it was there alot of scientists that who are from kairouan, in the last ages, i readed something about them in an article in a magazine when kairouan was the arabian muslim culture capital for 2009, there was many that originated from kairouan,
i can tell scientists names, arabs ones, and you can see their invetions:
ibn sina
al-Jazari http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/301961/al-Jazari
here's a link: http://www.grouporigin.com/clients/qatarfoundation/chapter2_5.htm
about "arab" as you wanted, but i couldnt give you alot of links since all of them are sai muslim civlisation's inventions,
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oh, also about the otman empire, it was another era, also the strongest empire of the muslim civilisation at a certen age, also, otaman did orignate from turkey, and then they ruled the rets of the hall muslim civlisation, since the muslim civilition's empires were weak and streached at that time,
so, otaman at that time, so, ottaman was a big and the most important step in the arabic and the muslim civlisation, also, technicky, as i said, the most arabs, even till toaday, the most people that still have the most arab genes ashes, are the middle eastern oil rich countries, like saudi arabia and the sourrounding countries. ottaman were turkish,
http://www.allempires.net/seljuk-and-ottoman-inventions_topic20522.html
ottaman, but it's the same case as in any age in the muslim civilisation, it didnt mater who was arab or turkish, all people were murged together, from all nationalities, and from all empires(mostly the empires of the muslim civlisation)
so, i can't say arab invetions, turkish or ottaman invetions, or persian, cause it was all one naton, it's like saying, for example, in u.s. an american scientists who's race is chinese, invented something, are they going to say, chinese invetor? no, they're going to say, american inventor, the same thing as for muslims, in this case, muslim or islamique, is not meant to show how great the relegion is or something, forget about islam, consider it a name of a nationality, what bothers you is the word "islamic civilisation" but, consider that word a name, just like in u.s. all americans, but from different races, and they are all american inventors.
oh, also about the otman empire, it was another era, also the strongest empire of the muslim civilisation at a certen age, also, otaman did orignate from turkey, and then they ruled the rets of the hall muslim civlisation, since the muslim civilition's empires were weak and streached at that time,
so, otaman at that time, so, ottaman was a big and the most important step in the arabic and the muslim civlisation, also, technicky, as i said, the most arabs, even till toaday, the most people that still have the most arab genes ashes, are the middle eastern oil rich countries, like saudi arabia and the sourrounding countries. ottaman were turkish,
http://www.allempires.net/seljuk-and-ottoman-inventions_topic20522.html
ottaman, but it's the same case as in any age in the muslim civilisation, it didnt mater who was arab or turkish, all people were murged together, from all nationalities, and from all empires(mostly the empires of the muslim civlisation)
so, i can't say arab invetions, turkish or ottaman invetions, or persian, cause it was all one naton, it's like saying, for example, in u.s. an american scientists who's race is chinese, invented something, are they going to say, chinese invetor? no, they're going to say, american inventor, the same thing as for muslims, in this case, muslim or islamique, is not meant to show how great the relegion is or something, forget about islam, consider it a name of a nationality, what bothers you is the word "islamic civilisation" but, consider that word a name, just like in u.s. all americans, but from different races, and they are all american inventors.
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don't care about him, he's bluffing, don't cause a head acke for yourself, and let's stay on topic,
don't care about him, he's bluffing, don't cause a head acke for yourself, and let's stay on topic,
ok ok dude don't get all butt hurt, which started when i stated that most moderen terrorist orginizations were invented in islam, truth hurts, but here here is some islamic credit that has nothing to do with tnu or what ever your country is, because you did state that other muslim nations are not you.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/how-islamic-inventors-changed-the-world-469452.html
OK OK dude don't get all butt hurt, which started when i stated that most modern terrorist organizations were invented in Islam, truth hurts, but here here is some Islamic credit that has nothing to do with tun or what ever your country is, because you did state that other Muslim nations are not you. and it would not be right for you to only take credit for the good, and not the bad.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/how-islamic-inventors-changed-the-world-469452.html
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but you quoted my reply, and i said, are you talking to me? in an other way, it was an ignoring mocking if you want it to call it like that, and in fact, i don't care what a hell you think.
naw i am talking to the other guy i quoted lol
but you quoted my reply, and i said, are you talking to me? in an other way, it was an ignoring mocking if you want it to call it like that, and in fact, i don't care what a hell you think.
countezero
Registered Senior Member
You make my point for me. Being on the road and doing something are revelations of the gap that exists. That gap cannot be entirely blamed on the West. And going back and celebrating Islam's glorious past is nothing more than a rhetorical stunt that districts people from Islam's rather disappointing present.
Does this thread even have a damn point shadow1?
Or are you just looking for people here to kiss your ass and make you feel good about yourself?
So what? islam invented a lot of things? Yah sure, congrats, your civilization had some amount of imagination. Big whoop, every major civilization in the world has invented significant things.
Shadow1, what the hell is the point of this? Are you just trying to make us feel bad or make you feel good or feed into your own ego?
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what the hell is wrong with you????????????????????? what's your problem???? does it have to have a point???? get a life dude, and what the fuck is your problem with that?
what the hell is wrong with you????????????????????? what's your problem???? does it have to have a point???? get a life dude, and what the fuck is your problem with that?
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hmm,lol, i didnt find a link, but i'll check my history book,
back in a while
I'd still like to see a top 3 list
hmm,lol, i didnt find a link, but i'll check my history book,
back in a while
flakeyairportchunks
Registered Senior Member
The reaction you are getting seems to suggest the consensus that Shadow1 is a pissmidget.
you didnt anser the problem, what the hell is the point of this thread?
It brings nothing to the discussion and it stinks of trolling but the only reason it's probably not a troll is because you are probably unfamiliar with the term.
hmmmm, yah, we should start a poll.
flakeyairportchunks
Registered Senior Member
Not good. Ahem.