How to make a sustained fusion reaction

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Beaconator said:
Without those other elements the heat would not be enough to produce fusion.
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Beaconator said:
Without those other elements the heat would not be enough to produce fusion.

the essence of anything determines what it will be. Not the sum of our scientific knowledge.
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hydrogen under its own gravity would be an enormous amount and instantly create a black hole.

these values are only found at the very edge of existence which allows for the rapid expansion of our universe.
 
DaveC426913 said:
Stop. Just stop.
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Since stainless steel isn’t magnetic.

you are who you are because of your essence. Your DNA determines your outward appearance, and your experience determines your overall outlook. it is the same for compounds and elements.
 
Janus58 said:
Wrong. Fusion at the core of the sun can occur with H1 (the common isotope of Hydrogen) via the proton-proton chain, because the pressure and temp is high enough. No other elements are required.
All man-made fusion reactions( such as those those in thermonuclear weapons), require H2 (deuterium) or H3(tritium), as they have less stringent requirements for fusion.

I have no clue as to where you are getting your ideas from.
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Don’t those require neutrinos?
 
Beaconator said:
Don’t those require neutrinos?
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Neutrinos are a by-product of fusion, and are produced during the first stage of the proton-proton chain when one of two merging protons converts to a neutron. They are not needed to initiate the merger, and just leave afterwards.
 
Janus58 said:
Neutrinos are a by-product of fusion, and are produced during the first stage of the proton-proton chain when one of two merging protons converts to a neutron. They are not needed to initiate the merger, and just leave afterwards.
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how does a proton transforming into a neutron constitute fusion?

neutrinos can go through mountains like many other quantum particles

from hydrogen to helium has to be the largest gap in the process of fusion
 
Beaconator said:
how does a proton transforming into a neutron constitute fusion?

neutrinos can go through mountains like many other quantum particles

from hydrogen to helium has to be the largest gap in the process of fusion
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Two protons (H -1 atoms stripped of their electrons) collide, to from a H-2 nucleus by one of them being converted to a neutron through emission of a positron and neutrino

A proton collides with this, fusing into a HE-3 nucleus and emitting a gamma ray
Two HE-3 nuclei (each formed by the above process), collide leaving 1 HE-4 nucleus and two free protons.
Those protons go on to either collide with another proton (stage 1) or an already formed H-2) molecule

Hydrogen to helium is the easiest fusion process to cause. The big obstacle is getting the nuclei close enough for the short range nuclear bonds to overcome the electrostatic repulsion of the positively charged nuclei. Elements higher on the periodic table have more protons per nucleus, thus a greater repulsion to overcome.
 
Janus58 said:
Two protons (H -1 atoms stripped of their electrons) collide, to from a H-2 nucleus by one of them being converted to a neutron through emission of a positron and neutrino

A proton collides with this, fusing into a HE-3 nucleus and emitting a gamma ray
Two HE-3 nuclei (each formed by the above process), collide leaving 1 HE-4 nucleus and two free protons.
Those protons go on to either collide with another proton (stage 1) or an already formed H-2) molecule

Hydrogen to helium is the easiest fusion process to cause. The big obstacle is getting the nuclei close enough for the short range nuclear bonds to overcome the electrostatic repulsion of the positively charged nuclei. Elements higher on the periodic table have more protons per nucleus, thus a greater repulsion to overcome.
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I imagine the addition of electrons from hydrogen to helium undergoes a similar process
 
Beaconator said:
I imagine the addition of electrons from hydrogen to helium undergoes a similar process
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What distinguishes Hydrogen from Helium is the number of protons in the nucleus. The Sun is a ball of plasma, a mix of nuclei and electrons that is so hot that the electrons roam free not attached to any atom. So what you have are ionized atoms and free electrons. Some of these escape as the solar wind, and once they lose enough energy recombine to form neutral atoms.

The process of atoms gaining or losing electrons is all controlled by the electromagnetic interaction, and is not a nuclear one.
Fire, the result of chemical reactions is an ionized gas that borders on being a plasma. So we are not talking about anything near the type of energies involved with fusion.
 
Beaconator said:
Take all elements below iron and place them in an iron box.

world energy crisis averted
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Like the Markov chain it requires a beginning and an end. A stochastic process that depends on anything but random variables. I am eliminating randomness in the processes such as brownian motion. A fluid template confined in the most curious magnetic element to ever align itself.

I acknowledge some of the statements appear counter intuitive, but these are the closest models we have to perfection on an elemental level.

fission and fusion only serve as a measuring point for quantum affects. We understand the process but not the cause nor the finishing mark.

to place all fissionable elements in the same box can only allow us to understand fusion at a broader level than we do today.

Will they undergo fusion? Probably not, but it is the worst case scenario.

and still I have a hunch this will be a harder experiment than Edison’s lightbulb

. We only get one chance out of a thousand options and the penalty is death by spontaneous reactions.

Einstein’s knowledge of both light and neutrons can’t be a coincidence.
 
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Beaconator said:
Like the Markov chain it requires a beginning and an end. A stochastic process that depends on anything but random variables. I am eliminating randomness in the processes such as brownian motion. A fluid template confined in the most curious magnetic element to ever align itself.

I acknowledge some of the statements appear counter intuitive, but these are the closest models we have to perfection on an elemental level.

fission and fusion only serve as a measuring point for quantum affects. We understand the process but not the cause nor the finishing mark.

to place all fissionable elements in the same box can only allow us to understand fusion at a broader level than we do today.

Will they undergo fusion? Probably not, but it is the worst case scenario.

and still I have a hunch this will be a harder experiment than Edison’s lightbulb

. We only get one chance out of a thousand options and the penalty is death by spontaneous reactions.

Einstein’s knowledge of both light and neutrons can’t be a coincidence.
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You seem to be having a psychotic episode. Take your meds.
 
exchemist said:
You seem to be having a psychotic episode. Take your meds.
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I am. They don’t help unsee what one other healthcare person saw and told me to disregard.

broke all physical laws including the ones I am trying to prove.

I don’t care what happened back then I just know I’m going to accomplish something greater here. Mostly because those who believe in god believe what I’m saying, while those that don’t do not. And Einstein believed in god
 
exchemist said:
You seem to be having a psychotic episode. Take your meds.
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There are still things we don’t know. This is definitively one of them. And I’m not one to let curiosity get the best of me. I’ll let something that makes no sense slide but something that has logical validity towards the unknown… then I don’t care what language you speak.
 
I’ve seen things that make no sense whatsoever! And you want me to give up on my dreams just because you have “better” answers than my mind can create?

just because the syntax is beyond comprehension.

just because every scientific discovery ever from Plato to Mendeleev is incomprehensible to you does not deter me.

you believe in “modern” science which is just repetitive nonsense doctor Faust would eat and call himself chi!
 
Dywyddyr said:
Wrong.
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Your wrong about everything. And can prove nothing.

From America having better nuclear weapons than Russia to Einstein’s belief in god.

to what I just said.

there is no truth in you.

there is no peace in your mind.

there is no possibility an iron shell can be breached by organic material.

Period.
 
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