Oops. More intermediary fossils found.

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  1. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Another intermediary in the evolution to land-based tetrapods is finally cornered. Hello, little wannabe-amphibian! So the horror of the gaps shrinks yet again. (Shrinkage being a general problem in water anyway.)

    But, to be fair to religious literalism, the fossils were found in the flat part of the earth.

    An earlier article illustrates what was known prior to Ventastega:

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    Presumably Ventastega lies between Tiktaalik and what I presume is Acanthostega, peeking back at his newly installed hindquarters. "Four wheel drive. Nice."
     
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  3. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Can we keep references to religion out of Biology? If you want to discuss creationism, please do not post it in B and G. Just stick to evidence based science.
     
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  5. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    I just did. What is you want to know about? I'm not an expert on the period, but the accumulating evidence does have the effect of minimizing the fossil record gaps that are taken as evidence that Adam and Eve were real n' such.
     
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  7. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    LOL :thumbsup:

    Great article !

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  8. Dr Mabuse Percipient Thaumaturgist Registered Senior Member

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    It is promising.

    But some of the leaps of imagination done with very partial fossil finds are well documented, even in modern times.

    I hope a more complete fossil is found, revealing more of a concrete proof and less conjecture.
     
  9. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    This isn't a mere molar. This is a braincase, limb and pelvic girdle. That's a substantial find.
     
  10. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Geoff,
    the article is from a year ago. Has anything new been added to it since then? Have they found more fossils of this animal?
     
  11. Dr Mabuse Percipient Thaumaturgist Registered Senior Member

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    Well, it's more than a molar to be sure.

    That is only one case, the molar, maybe it's the best known.

    There is a lot more of this in paleontology, including in recent times.
     
  12. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    To which examples do you refer?
     
  13. tuberculatious Banned Banned

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    Maybe they also found an incisor.
     
  14. Walter L. Wagner Cosmic Truth Seeker Valued Senior Member

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    Mitochondrial Eve and Y-Chromsome Adam were real people from whom we can all trace our origins. Or don't you believe you were born of parents, who were born of parents, who were born of parents, etc.?
     
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  15. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    We lament the general lack of humor in science, until some snarky scientists give names like Y-Chromosome Adam and Mitochondrial Eve to two rather ordinary people who didn't even live in the same era (60KYA and 170KYA, respectively) and who were both born in the usual unremarkable way.

    As Wikipedia says:
    We don't need to promote that implication.
     
  16. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    I could believe in a gaggle of related Eves and Adams. But by definition, there will be no "single ancestor".
     
  17. Hercules Rockefeller Beatings will continue until morale improves. Moderator

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    Here's some fresh science that is relevant....

     
  18. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Yep. Single Eve always was a crock of shit.

    Sorry, sorry: exceedingly unlikely would be our phrase. Mea culpa.
     
  19. tuberculatious Banned Banned

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    I think it is possible to trace back a single lineage to a single eve. I know for sure that my mother was my eve for instance.
     
  20. markl323 Registered Senior Member

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    LOL "oops they did it again..."
     
  21. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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  22. Walter L. Wagner Cosmic Truth Seeker Valued Senior Member

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    Mitochondrial eve is a well established scientific fact. Do some googling and educate yourself about genetics.
     
  23. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    I said ancestor, not mtDNA sequence, dumbass. Don't you have a house to haunt?
     

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