Breast cancer is racist

Discussion in 'Biology & Genetics' started by firecross, Jun 7, 2006.

  1. firecross Scientist Registered Senior Member

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  3. Hercules Rockefeller Beatings will continue until morale improves. Moderator

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    Here is a translation for those who are not familiar with Firecross (Sciforum’s resident racist/white supremacist):

     
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  5. Naat Scientia potestas est. Registered Senior Member

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    Breast cancer is also discriminating men. Only 1 % of breast cancers are found on men.

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  7. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Blacks have increased resistance to other diseases.
     
  8. Naat Scientia potestas est. Registered Senior Member

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    Vikings seem to be resistant to HIV. Another racist disease ? Link .
     
  9. I-Am-Invisible sick of it all. Registered Senior Member

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    I think "skandinavians" is the better term, since the wikings lived ages ago...

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  10. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Which black women were included in this study? Only Americans?
     
  11. firecross Scientist Registered Senior Member

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    That you call me a "racist" or "white supremacist" is insulting and false.

    Science seems to offer abundant evidence that there are substantial differences between races, but these differences could be considered good or bad depending on the traits you prefer. Clearly no race is "superior" as there are many useless and redundant people of all races.

    That you resort to name calling and ascribing labels to me that aren't true shows exactly how irrational and anti-scientific you are.
     
  12. D'ster Registered Senior Member

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    There is much truth in this criticism. But sometimes you find the opposite: racial differences seem to amplify observable genetic ones. One example cited by Neil Risch, the director of the Centre for Human Genetics at the University of California, San Francisco, concerns ApoE, another gene involved in LDL metabolism. One particular allele of this gene, ApoE4, is associated with an increased risk of Alzheimer's disease.

    ApoE4 is relatively common in most racial groups. About 9% of Japanese Americans have it, 14% of white Americans and 19% of black Americans. But the impact of ApoE4 differs significantly between these groups. Individuals of Japanese descent who have two copies of ApoE4 (one from each parent) have a 33-fold increased risk of contracting Alzheimer's disease compared with those who have other versions of ApoE. Those of European descent have a 15-fold increased risk. Blacks, by contrast, have a mere six-fold increase in their risk. “Whether it is due to differences in genetic background or environment, who knows? But if you ignore race, you would never know,” says Dr Risch. Moreover, if the American population was sampled for ApoE4 and Alzheimer's risk without regard for ethnicity, the risk would resemble that of whites, because their numbers would overwhelm the data from the other racial groups. As Dr Risch says, “I think these categories are useful as long as they are predictive. That doesn't prove that the difference is genetic.”

    In the genes
    In some cases, though, the difference clearly is genetic. A gene called UGT1A1 controls the metabolism of a colon-cancer drug called irinotecan. Approximately 20% of African-Americans, 15% of whites and 1% of Asians have two copies of a non-functional version of this gene called *28. Because individuals lacking functional UGT1A1 are at risk for serious complications if given the standard dose of irinotecan, genetic testing of patients before starting irinotecan therapy has become normal. Yet, while only 1% of Asians have two copies of the *28 allele, which is detected by the genetic test, 2.5% of Asians have another non-functional version called *6 which is not detected by the standard test. Indeed, it does not occur in blacks or whites. Thus, testing Asians for the *28 allele does not provide them with the same quality of care as it does for African-Americans or whites. “Identical treatment is not,” as Dr Risch puts it, “equal treatment.”


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  13. przyk squishy Valued Senior Member

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    Is there a point to this? Usually opening posts that simply link to some article get: "No topic of discussion. Thread closed."
     
  14. D'ster Registered Senior Member

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    "The point of this thread" and the "topic of discussion" is that breast cancer is just one more example of are interesting human diversity.

    Don't be a hater (racist), celebrate with us the many diversity's of the different races of peoples.

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  15. firecross Scientist Registered Senior Member

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    We're having a discussion about breast cancer and the joys of diversity. You should be more open-minded and tolerant.

    Remember: Our strength comes from our differences. Let's enjoy how different we all are.

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