Because that is all they care about?
That is the core of there belief yes.
The only people carrying on that the #MeToo movement = hysteria are ultra right wing and misogynists. Why do you think the left should pander to them?
Who president now? Now this may come and a surprise but not everyone the voted for trump is "ultra right wing and misogynists". even a few percent of them flipping their vote would change everything. As long as you have the outlook that everyone that is not with you is your moral enemy, then you will not have enough allies to win.
And why are you repeatedly spreading their propaganda?
What propaganda? Be specific.
Do you think it is acceptable to threaten women with rape, sexual assault and murder because they are women working in a field that these men do not think they belong in?
Of course not! What a ridiculous question! Do you think it is acceptable to eat children?
There is absolutely no evidence that any of this happened. What was reported by NPR was a quote from a former employee who is suing Google for something unrelated, who said that women would be staying home because they were not comfortable working in the same department as Damore. No evidence that this actually occurred. Right wing media took that and ran with it and literally built an anti-woman myth to support Damore. So why are you spreading right wing propaganda as fact in your zeal to denigrate women further than you already have been?
Your argument is not supported by what you cited. More so this is not about truth, this is about perception, things like #metoo and an how some women publicly handle Damore makes the perception that women are an overly sensitive liability
I am trying to understand what your anti-Semitic screed has to do with this? Or are you just using that as an example, because you haven't proven yourself to be a big enough bigot yet?
A self hating bigot? I providing an analogy,
Damore wrote a memo, that basically said that women were sub-par biologically and not fit to work in the tech industry as a result. Do you think that is acceptable? Can you cite studies that would support his claims?
no he wrote a memo that women
on average do not prefer to be modern computer programmers and that biology may be some of the reason why that is and that a 50/50 gender ratio in any career is unrealistic, and it is ideologically close minded to deny any other reason for the lack of 50/50 distribution other then sexism. He repeatedly throughout the memo expressed that individuals vary and that women can do that, only not to equal ratios as men.
Now bells, are women
on average shorter then men? Does that make women "sub-par biologically"?
Secondly, Damore wrote the memo with the specific intention of denigrating his female co-workers because he considered them beneath him in every way imaginable.
Complete projection on your part.
I do not know of any organisation that would allow such 'feedback' to stand unopposed. You are arguing as though you think what he had to say had some merit. Do you?
Did you read what he said? I don't think you did.
And yes saying that maybe some of the reasons for non-equal job distributions is biological has merit, it means nothing for the individual though.
I am not all jews, any accusation made against all jews may are may not have anything to do against me, rather how that accusation is utilized is what is important, if it is a bunch of trolls just being edgy I can live with that, if it is to be used to oppressed me or others, well that there is a problem. See the problem here is people like you Bells, and I mean ideologues of your ilk, not all women or even women in general, tend to see any statement as being "about all" and that you are somehow representative of all, and you see any statement about generalizations or averages or norms as a slander against you. Your ideology automatically assume any such generalization leads to oppression and therefor anyone that dares to suggest that generalization is correct is evil.
And the threat came from the outside and they suspect, from some within Google who agreed with Damore. To wit, the female employees had their addresses posted online, as well as other private details, including their pictures, with accompanying threats. Do you think that is acceptable?
Of course not! What a ridiculous question! Do you think it is acceptable to eat children?
It is perfectly understandable for the women in that department to no longer feel safe or comfortable in their workplace and the company acted to ensure that their staff members were safe and ensured that employees were made aware that such ideologies were not welcome. Do you have a problem with that?
Of course not! What a ridiculous question! Do you think it is acceptable to eat children?
Anyways you ignored my original point that you are talking about a separate event then what was claimed, that the claim was BEFORE he was fired, even BEFORE it became public, women inside google supposedly 'flipped a table' over it. From what has leaked it looks like only male feminist were flipping tables, so I have no proof on that claim, that does not give you a right to bring in a red haring of an completely alternate event that happened later.
I am not. I would like to know why you are spreading right wing propaganda on this site.
What right-wing propaganda, be specific. My answer will depend
1. If it is factual, then I'm spreading facts, regardless if the right wing believe it or not.
2. If it is a mischaracterization on your part, i'm spreading a claim that you are mischaracterizing as rightwing.
The author of the piece you quoted and linked to also cited that perhaps women should not be hired because they can also get pregnant and have periods and may need time off for that.
The author is stating the logic of employers, he is not saying it is right, only that is how they think and that #metoo adds into that thinking. Do you understand the concept of perceptions? No of course not, you thought Hillary Clinton was electable, clearly you have no clue.
To wit, the author you quoted is deeply anti-women, and disagrees with the #MeToo movement because men caught sexually harassing women at work could cost the business money. That is the essential crux of his whine and he questions whether it would just be easier to simply not hire women and avoid the risk (not to mention citing a bunch of other misogynistic bullshit as reasons to not hire women) and he did so by citing what is essentially right wing propaganda.
No he says the #Metoo movement makes women appear/precieved to be prone to making costly accusations, sometimes out of nothing, and will added to sexist hiring practices, that he specifically disagrees with, he specifically states that he does not believe women are that weak and that he wants female employment and co-ed work environments and you are projecting all these claims that he is anti-women, misogynistic and right wing because your ideology requires you do so.
The correct alternative would be to provide on the job training and having sexual harassment policies in place. Which is what everyone does. He argues for not hiring women at all because it's not fair to men.
We already do that, as you have noticed, he saying that the perception of its failure, that to #metoo will result in employers taking the worse option of not hiring women, which he does not want. The correct alternative is not the have hysterias like metoo because the end result harms women, harms progressive causes.
It's not the #MeToo movement that will see women getting fired. What is getting women fired is their reporting sexual harassment and sexual assault to HR or their supervisors and they are they fired, demoted, moved to another department and shut out of all chances of promotion with the organisation. #MeToo is a means to allow women to out the men, women and organisations that promote the protection of rape culture, not to mention participate in it by sexually harassing and sexually assaulting women.
ok once again how well did that public outing work out for Donald Trump? I means sure I can see their was good intent with #metoo, only it is antithetical to reality and results in exactly what it is trying to stop.
So I'll ask again, why are you spreading right wing propaganda?
So I ask again, be specific. So for what you have presented is you mischaracterizing an argument.
You can start with his headline.. And then read through it to the last paragraph.
No you mean the headline triggered you and you hate read it (if you did read it at all!) seeing only what you wanted to see.
The whole premise of the article is misogynistic, self serving right wing propaganda, right down to his whining about "mainstream media".
What is the premise, because so far you mischaracterized the premise completely. Everyone whines about mainstream media. I have comments above whining about youtube, which is mainstream to me and millions of others. That like saying Nazis whined about smoking, ergo anti-smoking is fascists propaganda.
So why are you spreading it?
Why are you making this accusations? What relevance does it have to the topic?