Earth equator shifting down verticaly

1 way to define the equator of a sphere is to say it is the intersection of a plane along 1 of the great circles of the sphere

shifting it down would put it outside of a great circle

it doesn't actually shift just the imaginary line you are thinking of is what shifts
 
1 way to define the equator of a sphere is to say it is the intersection of a plane along 1 of the great circles of the sphere

shifting it down would put it outside of a great circle

it doesn't actually shift just the imaginary line you are thinking of is what shifts

\I probably phrased wrong my thinking .

I agree there is only one diameter .

I meant the intensity of the sun shifted slightly to a higher latitude , and so the norther region will get warmer and the southern hemisphere will get colder
 
\I probably phrased wrong my thinking .

I agree there is only one diameter .

I meant the intensity of the sun shifted slightly to a higher latitude , and so the norther region will get warmer and the southern hemisphere will get colder

That is also impossible with the Earth - because it is tilted on it's axis and also rotates.
 
1 way to define the equator of a sphere is to say it is the intersection of a plane along 1 of the great circles of the sphere

shifting it down would put it outside of a great circle

it doesn't actually shift just the imaginary line you are thinking of is what shifts

\I probably phrased wrong my thinking .

I agree there is only one diameter .

I meant the intensity of the sun shifted slightly to a higher latitude , and so the norther region will get warmer and the southern hemisphere will get colder
 
\I probably phrased wrong my thinking .

I agree there is only one diameter .

I meant the intensity of the sun shifted slightly to a higher latitude , and so the norther region will get warmer and the southern hemisphere will get colder

I think what you are asking is what would happen if one of the poles was tilted toward the sun AND as the earth orbited the sun the pole was continually pointed toward the sun. Is that right?

Assuming that is right, first of all orbital mechanics say that can't happen. If this was able to occur then I guess the warmest spot on the earth would be some latitude between the equater and the pole. The opposite pole would be in perpetual darkness so it would be very cold and that hemisphere would probably be locked in a countinual ice age. I would assume there would be some very interesting storms due to the different extremes in temperature and due to the ocean currents cycling hot and cold water to the different latitudes. :shrug:
 
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I think what you are asking is what would happen if one of the poles was tilted toward the sun AND as the earth orbited the sun the pole was continually pointed toward the sun. Is that right?
Assuming that is right, first of all orbital mechanics say that can't happen. If this was able to occur then I guess the warmest spot on the earth would be some latitude between the equater and the pole. The opposite pole would be in perpetual darkness so it would be very cold and that hemisphere would probably be locked in a countinual ice age. I would assume there would be some very interesting storms due to the different extremes in temperature and due to the ocean currents cycling hot and cold water to the different latitudes. :shrug:

Let me rephrase one more time.

1 The sun is 60 larger then the earth .
2 Let assume the sun diameter is in the same plane as the earths diameter.
3 Assume the highest radiation from the sun comes from the equator from the sun
4 therefore the highest intensity will be at the earths diameter
5 Now let say the earth slips vertically a few degree from the original plane with respect to the sun equator .

6 Now should it not be warmer at the Arctic and cooler at the Antarctic ?
 
Why don't you go outside and measure the temperature?

2 Let assume the sun diameter is in the same plane as the earths diameter.
Because this is not the situation.

5 Now let say the earth slips vertically a few degree from the original plane with respect to the sun equator
You have heard of axial tilt, haven't you?
You do know that's why we have seasons, don't you?

6 Now should it not be warmer at the Arctic and cooler at the Antarctic ?
Why? The Earth rotates and orbits. Sometimes the North pole is tilted towards the Sun, sometimes it's tilted away.
:rolleyes:
 
Why don't you go outside and measure the temperature?


Because this is not the situation.


You have heard of axial tilt, haven't you?
You do know that's why we have seasons, don't you?


I know about the tilt, but I am bringing a different condition , vertical shift of the earth as a whole, not tilting of the axis


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I know about the tilt, but I am bringing a different condition , vertical shift of the earth as a whole, not tilting of the axis
Apart from the question "how would it do that" it would still have to orbit the centre of mass of the solar system, so it would be "down" on one side of its orbit, getting insolation of the North Pole and "up" on the other side, heating the South Pole.
 
Apart from the question "how would it do that" it would still have to orbit the centre of mass of the solar system, so it would be "down" on one side of its orbit, getting insolation of the North Pole and "up" on the other side, heating the South Pole.


Here is my question : TAKE X,Y,Z, Hypothetically, at the present our position is ( 3,3,0 )
with respect to the sun . Now what will happen when our position becomes
(3,3,-1 ) will the Arctic get warmer and the Antarctic become cooler ?

We have ice melting in Arctic poles , dove get more ice formation on the south pole ?
 
Here is my question : TAKE X,Y,Z, Hypothetically, at the present our position is ( 3,3,0 )
with respect to the sun . Now what will happen when our position becomes
(3,3,-1 ) will the Arctic get warmer and the Antarctic become cooler ?
Probably.
But, as I said, 6 months later we'll be at X,X,1.
So the reverse will be true. It'll "even out".
 
I heard there was a shift in the earths rotation. probably old news. but didn't that cause commotion in the planet? if it had been extreme one because of earthquake, would it still right itself, or put a bigger spin on the planets rotation?

did earth ever in its infancy have a wobble like spin that slowed down and went to its side?
 
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i went to googling information. A Richard Gross from Nasa jet propulsions talks about how right now only very little information from earthquakes effects on the planets spin rotation on its axis. It has been noticed that each earthquake observed puts a wobble and increase of spin on axis. so we do get a wobble. nice to know.
 
What will happen if the earth position moves down vertically of the present plain ?

they are and ? Takes a while . Not something that happens over night . It is subject to continental drift. That would really be the shits if it all happened at once . Kaput . End of life. Fuck can you even the vertigo we would all experience . We would probably all pass out except a few of us that could see the horror unfold just before our own demise
 
i can see this pretty good . My dad when we were little he had us mimic the sun earth and moon. Three kids . I forget some of it cause it was kind of traumatic for me . We would do the complete rotation in a dance kind of move . You should try it some time . You don't think about how you are moving in a circle and rotation on a slant until you been there . All while some one is circling you as you circle someone else . Just to get the hole thing started is a nightmare . First couple time expect some collisions until you get the bugs worked out
 
What will happen if the earth position moves down vertically of the present plain ?

I tried to set up a semi possible scenario based on what I interpreted what you were trying to do.

Here is the problem with your idea. If the earth were to 'to drop down' below it's current orbit, it would definitely not orbit the 'lower half' of the sun, that is not how objects orbit. If the earth were to drop 20 degrees below it's current obital plane (and this was the 'low point') then 6 months later the earth would be 20 degrees above the plane. 3 months after that the earth would cross the previous orbital plane. Savy?

The earth will always orbit the sun so that the orbital plane would split the sun in half.
 
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