Soft Mountains

Compression yes, overburden no.

4,400 years not 6,000, you still can't get it together can you Walter.

 

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Reverse faults are brittle expression of shortening, so they occur in rock. How shortly after the deluge do you think? Perhaps you could provide a rough chronology of events.

So, let me make sure I'm clear on this... The magma was intruded into soft, wet sediment some 3500 years ago. Large crystals were able to form, despite the pluton having cooled and crystallised impossibly quickly. Several more intrusions occurred, cutting the original pluton. The sediment underwent lithification some time after that and was subsequently fractured. Between all these happenings, the entire region underwent compression and the unlithified sediment was deformed. Presumably the hydrothermal fluid percolated through the fractures last, forming the zones of mineralization - but what was the source of the fluid, if the igneous rock had already cooled? Please, IceAgeCivilizations, include this in your chronology because I'm a little confused.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that this was a joke. Otherwise I'll expect you to explain just where this quicklime came from and elaborate on how it caused instant lithification.
But really, joking aside, how do you suppose these sediments were cemented if they were raised above the water table immediately after deposition?

 

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That's about right I think, and rock can form quickly when CaCO3 is involved, and when coupled with regional plutonic heating and vertical compaction, some rocks could have formed in weeks.

 

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for the 87th time of asking will you please provide the data to support this contention.

 

Where does this socalled fictional "Great Deluge" come from? I've studied geology for years. I think I understand it well, although there's always a lot to learn. But why, in my years of studying, and increased understanding, have I never heard of this "Deluge"?

"Radial tension fractures in the folded sedimentary layers of mountain ranges"?
Mountain ranges are horizontal, straight and parallel. Where do you get radial from? Are we living on the same planet?

I think it no wonder that Deluge is synonymous with Delusion?

 

If you knew anything about geology, you wouldn't say such a goofy thing.

 

Orogeny occurs by plate tectonics or volcanos. Plates normally have long straights edges. A single mountain, except for volcanos, are part of a long straight mountain range. Mountain ranges run parallel to each other. The peaks are formed by erosion. The only "radial" that I know of are "radial faults" and "raidial drainage patterns."

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"Before geology, the presence of mountains was explained in Christian contexts as a result of the Biblical Deluge, for Neoplatonic thought, which influenced early Christian writers, assumed that a perfect Creation would have to have been in the form of a perfect sphere. Such thinking persisted into the eighteenth century." Wiki

This is an Earth Science forum, not an antiquated bible study class. All major mountain ranges on Earth are caused by, and still being created by, plate tectonics. We can measure the movements of the plates on a regular basis along with the mountain range's consequent uplift.

What are you talking about here? Please give a simple understandable definition as to what you mean by "radial tension fractures" in line with what we now know about geology and orogeny.

 

Uh, folding, radial, cracks, I thought you're some kind of geologist. Bend a thin slab of hard rock hard enough, what happens? None of that seen in the folded layers.

 

So now you're saying calcium carbonate, not quicklime? Where do you think all the calcium carbonate came from? What happened to make it come out of solution so quickly? How did sediments at such high altitude hold the pore water for long enough? What about sedimentary rocks which are not cemented by calcium carbonate?

I thought you didn't believe the sediments were buried to any great extent, so what is the cause of the vertical loading you speak of?

You seem unable to accept that rocks can deform plastically. Why?

You have claimed that the deformation of unconsolidated sediment produced slump/flow structures (specifically in the Himalayas), but have not provided evidence. Why?

 

What vertical loading?

No need to.

Did not.

 

I wonder how many of your books you sold since comming on here, if any.

 

This is what you said (my boldface):

That vertical loading! So what about it?

You most certainly did.
In the 'End of Ice Age' thread, in response to your claim that the Himalayas are younger than humanity, I said:

You replied:

 

You're the one talking about "Soft Mountains"? And "radial tension fractures in the folded sedimentary layers of mountain ranges," not me? I've never seen anything of what you describe. And then there's this fictional "Great Deluge."

Too much for me. Polluting geology and just serving to make more complicated what we already know and can explain. This forum has regressed geology back to the Ice Ages.

 

Lack of radial tension cracks, oh brother.

 

Response, IceAgeCivilizations?

 

Yes indeed.

 

Why do hundreds of tribes around the entire world have a world wide deluge account? Maybe they all coincidentally dreamed up the same story? It is amazing that few in the science world will even consider that a world wide flood could have happened simply because of their bias against the Biblical account. How could anyone say that a world wide flood, along with volcanic activity would not be able to raise the montains and rearrange the entire geography of the earth? Has anyone even considered how devasting a flood of these proprtions could be? Just becasue the majority of the scientific community believes the earth to be billions of years old does not mean that it is so. Just take a look at some ancient maps and also all the under water bronze age cities around the globe and you may begin to see just how fast large changes can take place. Before the ice age was too far along the ancients mapped Greenland and Antarctica,(mountain ranges) and by the time it ended bronze age cities were under water. Lets get logical.

 

Why does a Biblicist dredge up a 6-year old thread looking for a science nut to come along and thrash him to smithereens over the stubborn ignorance of established knowledge concerning the geophysical history of earth and its corroborating evidence among dozens of fields of study? Why do Biblicists routinely engage in pseudoscience and revisionism in order to advance their unfounded and often fraudulent misrepresentations of the actual established findings of experts who could run circles around them bound and gagged merely from the standpoint of having taken their source material from the world around them instead of from an ancient relic of superstition, myth, legend and fable, arising out of unknown authors who incorporated elements of the Creation Myth from their neighbors, in this case, the Epic of Gilgamesh, in which the gods warn a man to place his animals in a round boat made of reeds, which he does, and then it rains cats and dogs, etc, you know what I mean, man, it's stolen material, hmmm?

So welcome to SciForums. What's up? Come to try spread some mayhem among the village of godless geeks and nerds?

Why would anybody do that? Is it less risky than going out and toppling Catholic statues?

:shrug:

 

Early civilisations inhabited the flood plains of rivers. There is a clue in that name that may answer why many civilisations have flood myths.