Soft Mountains

Discussion in 'Earth Science' started by IceAgeCivilizations, Dec 20, 2006.

  1. superluminal . Registered Senior Member

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    Are we tiring you with facts and logic?
     
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  3. IceAgeCivilizations Banned Banned

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    You have some facts, but your logic is missing.
     
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  5. superluminal . Registered Senior Member

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    Please don't ignore the link I posted. It deserves a rebuttal from you, not just some childish non-response. We're spending a lot of time on you (god knows why). Give it an honest shot.
     
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  7. IceAgeCivilizations Banned Banned

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    You have no concept of the dynamics and volumes germane to your verbiage, I don't feel like writing an article for you, sorry.
     
  8. superluminal . Registered Senior Member

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    You are a blowhard coward, then? I am a design engineer with over 20 years of experience. I've been studying science in it's many facets for longer than that.

    How about giving me the benefit of the doubt, and answering at least a simple question.

    If a given crater was formed after the flood (which it would have to have been) within the last 6000yrs, how did sedimentary rock form within the crater, become covered by loose sediments, and then subsequently become uncovered again? In the last 6000yrs?

    Simple question really.
     
  9. IceAgeCivilizations Banned Banned

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    The Deluge was circa 2400 B.C., please re-phrase your question.
     
  10. superluminal . Registered Senior Member

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    I'll make it even easier.

    How can sedimentary rock form in less than 4400 years? Or even 6000?
     
  11. IceAgeCivilizations Banned Banned

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    See, I told you.
     
  12. superluminal . Registered Senior Member

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    You sir, are a liar and a coward. I will have nothing more to do with such a trolling, self-serving ass.

    Thanks for the childish "I told ya!" response.

    Note to mods:

    This "gentleman" is posting only to gain spider generated reference links that feature his username which, by some coincidence, is the title of his book.

    I suggest he be ignored by all, banned for abusing the forum for sales purposes, or summarily executed. Whichever feels most appropriate.

    I'm done with the guy.
     
  13. Genji Registered Senior Member

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    The Great Flood was caused by a massive earthquake in NW Turkey that busted open the Bosphorus Isthmus, emptying a then huge freshwater Black Sea into the eastern Mediterranean. Evidence of this flood is found from the Sinai to the northern Adriatic coast. I saw a program about it on PBS. (But I know the Christians don't believe in anything but the bizarre story in the bible.)
     
  14. IceAgeCivilizations Banned Banned

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    Ah PBS, such an expert on the Global Deluge of Noah's time.
     
  15. doodah Registered Senior Member

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    Being an infrequent visitor to this site- I just now noted your confusion to my earlier question, which has not been answered...
    Why would you expect "tensional" radial fractures to form in a compressive stress field?
     
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    Radial cracks form from along the top of layers which are being folded.
     
  17. doodah Registered Senior Member

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    You still haven't explained why you expect "radial tension fractures" to form during compression. "Tension fractures" don't result from compressive strain.
     
  18. IceAgeCivilizations Banned Banned

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    I just told you, but let's try it a different way, take a thin slab of rock and bend it hard enough, it will break, radial tension cracks.
     
  19. doodah Registered Senior Member

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    However, if you put that thin slab of rock under compression, radial tension fractures will not develop.
     
  20. IceAgeCivilizations Banned Banned

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    There is no indication that there were huge overburdens of rock covering the current mountain ranges.
     
  21. doodah Registered Senior Member

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    So now you are saying that there was no compression? And if there is no overburden, how do you propose that soft seidments, especially non-carbonate rocks (like shales) were lithified?
     
  22. Walter L. Wagner Cosmic Truth Seeker Valued Senior Member

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    He doesn't. Just like he has no answer to how very ancient kipukas exist on the slopes of Mauna Kea and Mauna Loa dating back thousands of years. The older ones dating back hundreds of thousands of years are all buried by hundreds of layers of lava that built up the mountains in a million years or more; certainly not in a mere 6,000 years.
     
  23. doodah Registered Senior Member

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    Kipuka Puaulu certainly stands out from the surrounding volcanic slopes (I had the opportunity to visit several years ago)- as well as several smaller kipukas on the Mauna Loa road. Kipukas also exist at Craters of the Moon- there the dominant species is sagebrush.
    It's unfortunate that for some folks all objective evidence looks like a nail...
     

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