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Blacks Less Intelligent Than Whites?
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Oh, that's interesting. please enlighten us on the genetic mechanisms of intelligence.
I don't know, Spurious, but then you don't either!
What you and others are doing is accepting the liberal, doo-gooder racial propaganda without any evidence of the genetic mechanisms of intelligence. And, in effect, it's people like you who are squelching the scientific research into that very issue ...you don't want to know because it will upset your biased opinions and judgements.
Baron Max
Can they look at the DNA and tell if the person is good looking, polite or intelligent?
I don't know, Sam, but if we continue to study DNA and genetics, perhaps someday we will be able to spot such things. And that's why I think continued research is necessary and good.
Baron Max
Is a black baby smarter than a white baby, or vica versa? It would seem unlikely that there was genetic difference in intelligence, ....
But you don't know, do you. And to make such a statement as if it's factual is the height of ignorance.
Baron Max
Well, there is a factual basis for believing skin color is the result of more direct sunshine in the tropics, no? And, it is very rational to conclude that the amount of sunshine you get hit with has nothing to do with intelligence, no? So, how is this ignorance?
Is a black baby smarter than a white baby, or vica versa? It would seem unlikely that there was genetic difference in intelligence, given that black and white skin has nothing to do with intelligence but with how close the sun is to your respective locales.
Good grief. Do black people turn white when they move to Canada and do white people turn black when they move to Africa?
And skin color has nothing to do with intelligence. However skin color isn't the only difference between blacks and whites. Their brains and skulls are different. Someone properly trained can easily tell the race of someone just looking at their skull or skeleton.
Underlying questions for this unending American obsession with race - an obsession, by the way, which is meant to divert social pressures away from class conflicts or the friction between the haves and have-nots...
1)Is mind separate from body?
Does appearance expose essence or does it hide it?
Metaphysically speaking is appearance superfluous or is it, along with mind, part of the same phenomenon?
2)Does environment affect only the physical form or does it also affect psychology and intellect? If not, then how does intelligence evolve at all?
3)If skin color is irrelevant then why is form or smell or taste or sound?
Why is color relevant in one context and totally irrelevant in another?
4)If appearance is to be considered an illusion, as Buddhists assert, or superficial, as egalitarianisms asserts, then what are species or elements or any categories and why is there multiplicity?
Is nature a prankster or superfluous, or is nature frugal and indifferent?
Have we wronged other animals by judging them on appearances?
5)If we are to consider the possibility that modern social rules enforce a strict code of conduct which denies the usage of advantages which are considered disruptive and destructive, calling them immoral or evil or ill, then would it not be natural to observe a uniformity of behavior and of performance within a population thusly constricted, giving off the erroneous impression that they are all equally endowed and share equal potentials?
Does not, for instance, the playing of a game within specified and strictly enforced rules not create a level of uniformity we can call a median or mediocrity?
6)If nurture can be blamed for all divergence from this average, mediocre, norm, then what is nature?
The usage of nurture, as the only determining aspect of behavior or action, implies that man is self-determining and that he has overcome his past (genetic or otherwise), and that he has free-will. Why then does this free-will require training/education and a reward/threat system to come forth?
1)Is mind separate from body?
Does appearance expose essence or does it hide it?
Metaphysically speaking is appearance superfluous or is it, along with mind, part of the same phenomenon?
2)Does environment affect only the physical form or does it also affect psychology and intellect? If not, then how does intelligence evolve at all?
3)If skin color is irrelevant then why is form or smell or taste or sound?
Why is color relevant in one context and totally irrelevant in another?
4)If appearance is to be considered an illusion, as Buddhists assert, or superficial, as egalitarianisms asserts, then what are species or elements or any categories and why is there multiplicity?
Is nature a prankster or superfluous, or is nature frugal and indifferent?
Have we wronged other animals by judging them on appearances?
5)If we are to consider the possibility that modern social rules enforce a strict code of conduct which denies the usage of advantages which are considered disruptive and destructive, calling them immoral or evil or ill, then would it not be natural to observe a uniformity of behavior and of performance within a population thusly constricted, giving off the erroneous impression that they are all equally endowed and share equal potentials?
Does not, for instance, the playing of a game within specified and strictly enforced rules not create a level of uniformity we can call a median or mediocrity?
6)If nurture can be blamed for all divergence from this average, mediocre, norm, then what is nature?
The usage of nurture, as the only determining aspect of behavior or action, implies that man is self-determining and that he has overcome his past (genetic or otherwise), and that he has free-will. Why then does this free-will require training/education and a reward/threat system to come forth?
I'm talking about your genetic skin color - not going to the tanning salon. Also, what portions of the skull and skeleton are different, and how does that relate to intelligence?
Brain size is smaller with blacks, their brains are less "complex" and the supergrandular layer is thinner.
1) What does the color black say about the mind? Nothing.
2) Just because the environment affects physical form does not mean the environment has caused an inteligence difference between the races.
3) Why should color always be relevant?
4) No one said color is irrelevant. But, why would color be relevant to intelligence?
5) No one's saying some people aren't smarter than others. But, again, why should skin color be indicative of intelligence?
6) No one is claiming genetics doesn't play a role in intelligence. But, why should skin color have anything to do with that?
2) Just because the environment affects physical form does not mean the environment has caused an inteligence difference between the races.
3) Why should color always be relevant?
4) No one said color is irrelevant. But, why would color be relevant to intelligence?
5) No one's saying some people aren't smarter than others. But, again, why should skin color be indicative of intelligence?
6) No one is claiming genetics doesn't play a role in intelligence. But, why should skin color have anything to do with that?
Did you understand any of the questions?1) What does the color black say about the mind? Nothing.
2) Just because the environment affects physical form does not mean the environment has caused an inteligence difference between the races.
3) Why should color always be relevant?
4) No one said color is irrelevant. But, why would color be relevant to intelligence?
5) No one's saying some people aren't smarter than others. But, again, why should skin color be indicative of intelligence?
6) No one is claiming genetics doesn't play a role in intelligence. But, why should skin color have anything to do with that?
Jeez, another retard flushed out from the underbrush.
I understood perfectly well the point you were making. However, you have only used generalities, and have not addressed the specific question as to why skin color would at all be related to intelligence. My understanding is that skin color has to do with protection from the sun as well as the production of Vitamin D. Where does intelligence come into the mix?
very good question, but you should know by now that much of this discussion is generalization. It slike saying all black and brown dogs are smarter because German sherpards are smart.I understood perfectly well the point you were making. However, you have only used generalities, and have not addressed the specific question as to why skin color would at all be related to intelligence. My understanding is that skin color has to do with protection from the sun as well as the production of Vitamin D. Where does intelligence come into the mix?
Can you point to one, just one, non generalization.very good question, but you should know by now that much of this discussion is generalization. It slike saying all black and brown dogs are smarter because German sherpards are smart.
Please present to us an example of a non-generalization.
Perhaps the #1.
Is that specific or a generalization?
Is there such a thing as 1.
All of them, or is color the only thing that is used to differentiate between races?What other genetic differences between the races besides skin color are you referring to?
Size doesn't matter, haven't you seen small super computers that are more powerful than bigger counterparts. Arguable size doesn't matter when it comes to data storage or usage, what matters is the framework, plus we really don't know how the brain particularly works in relation to innovation. Okay, lets assume size does matter, I'd give you that, and lets assume white people generally have larger cranials than blacks, but what about the hicks and so called Eurotrash? What happened to their brain size? Or what happens when a young boy finished college by 15 yrs old?Brain size is smaller with blacks, their brains are less "complex" and the supergrandular layer is thinner.
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