Blacks Less Intelligent Than Whites?

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Is Watson Right, Are Blacks Less Intelligent Than Whites?

  1. Yes, Watson is Right, Whites are More Intelligent

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  2. No, Watson is Wrong, Blacks are More Intelligent

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  3. No, Watson is Jumping the Gun, there is No Evidence Pointing Either Way

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  4. What is "Intelligence?"

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  5. No, Watson is wrong. Whites and blacks are equally intelligent.

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  1. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Well, it's like many kinds of research ...often we don't know something unless we study it. And there are many scientific advances that have come from studying something else entirely - happy little accidents.

    If we study blacks, we might find out why all blacks have huge cocks, then we can splice that gene onto the genes of the whites, and ...voila'... the whites can have big, giant cocks, too!

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  3. kmguru Staff Member

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    The way the Intelligence works is that in-breeding reduces intelligent, natures way of getting rid of failures. And mix breeds enhance intelligence. That is perhaps, to have a mixed breed, these people go beyond the norm and are more adaptive, and smart to mutate in thought processes. That is only the genetic part. The other factors are:

    1. Culture
    2. Environment including food for the first 6 years
    3. Nutrition for the gestation period (DHA plays an important role at any age, Asians eat a lot of fish and so do Scandinavians. I found Scandinavians as smart as the Chinese - look at Nokia!)

    Working with U.S. Blacks and African Blacks, I found culture plays a major part in decision making. After all, the effect of higher intelligence is how you make smart decisions. The lack of smart decision mechanism among blacks have a lot to do with culture and how they logically come to a specific conclusion. My smart black friend grew up in a white type culture having mother a professor and does not have that black Eubonic accent. When growing up, he was chastised by his other blacks as being white talking.

    Even in India where the people are basically same race and color, compared to whites, the Dalits or socially lower caste people are at a disadvantage not because their genetic IQ is lower, but because it looks that way as they do not get the same opportunities as their higher caste counter parts. Those who do, like they are doctors in USA, enjoy the upward mobility.

    My 10% rule applies to the whole planet based on my travel to China, Japan, Mexico, Europe and communicating with people from Africa to Argentina. Those who think Africans are stupid, should know that stupid people from USAID and other NGOs go to Africa and could not teach them properly and say that they are unteachable. Think about it - how many 160 IQs you will find among USAID volunteers in Africa? You have to be down right stupid to go to the Malaria infested area and tell them not to use DDT!

    By the way, if you have an IQ of 175 to 180, chances are that you will not find one with higher than yours in your daily life. On the other hand, anyone with a 20 - 30 point lower than you will have difficulty communicating with you.


     
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  5. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    That's terrible!
     
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  7. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    So you met a few people and talked to them, then concluded that all such people are equally intelligent with all other people? Hmm, I'm not sure, but I think scientific research is done a little differently.

    Perhaps you could submit your findings to some university and see what they say?

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  8. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    It's terrible to have a big dick? Or it's terrible to want one? Duh?

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  9. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    spare us your homoerotic fantasies.

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  10. kmguru Staff Member

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    Actually there is a theory. It has something to do with the way their ancestors (the primates) had sex.

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    Which may say that the Asian ancestors evolved differently. There is no reason why everybody has to evolve from the same monkey when there are so many monkey sub-species. And why it should be superior or inferior if we all evolved from different sub-species.
     
  11. Zephyr Humans are ONE Registered Senior Member

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    Would it be racist to do a study on the miserliness of the Scots?

    Any study aimed at proving a preconceived point rather than finding the truth is obviously unscientific.
     
  12. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    Both.
    1. Because such higher testosterone levels increase violent behaviour.
    2. It means you have a pornographic mind.
     
  13. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Okay, I've always thought that the black kinky hair that blacks have would be so much easier to take care of. So, ...if the research uncover a "kinky-hair gene", then anyone who wants black kinky hair can have it. Pretty neat, huh?

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  14. kmguru Staff Member

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    I understand your need for the University folks to have higher IQ than you.

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  15. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    No, it wouldn't be racist ...or even discriminatory... if that's what some scientist wants to study.

    Why? If the results were scientific, then regardless of what the researcher was trying to prove, it might prove just the opposite. What's unscientific about trying to find the reasons for intelligence?

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  16. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    So now you're wanting to use IQ in order to slander me .....but you refuse to use IQ scores to show that blacks are less intelligent than whites? ....LOL!

    See? You're just like all the others ....you believe what you believe, and you won't accept anything that says otherwise.

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  17. kmguru Staff Member

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    As I said, even 15 point difference can cause communication difficulties.

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  18. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Yep, that's what the researchers used to say about the blacks ....until the liberal, doo-gooders wouldn't let them release their scientific data showing that blacks were less intelligent than whites!

    And now, of course, we have ghetto language that seems to prove all of the research of the last decades!

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    Infraction for trolling; racist comment on language-SAM
     
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  19. kmguru Staff Member

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    The book will agree on the ghetto language...

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  20. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Please use the proper forum or PM for discussing infractions.

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  21. Chatha big brown was screwed up Registered Senior Member

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    You are joking right? About the 20 poorest countries in the world are in Africa. The GNP of India is more favorable than these 20 countries. When you look at these countries you notice that people barely hear about them outside this list, which is why patronization plays a big part of development. Some people think that they are underdeveloped because of some genetic effects on their intelligence but this is not true for the society on a whole. Roman empire became developed because it invited all the artists and engineers from the world over, so did Greece, Egypt, and every other developed civilization. There was also a time when developed countries were undeveloped, and there has always been times when some states were more developed than others. Undeveloped countries have been through numerous civil conflicts, corruption, excessive lending. Some of these countries even seem to still be in the formative stages at times, and the developments from other developed countries doesn't excatly follow as a confidence boster. More than 50% of intelligence is enviromental, the rest is the will of the Gods.

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  22. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    That's not true. People who live in heavily malarial zones have increased risk of sickle cell - many of these people are not "black", and the mutations involved seem to have happened on the Arabian peninsula and India before they happened in Africa. Black people in several areas of the world have no increased incidence of diabetes or glaucoma. None of those correlate mechanistically with skin color - which is the basic determiner of "race".

    It's not that blacks have darker skin (that's not strictly true, either, btw), it's that those with darker skin are labeled "black". If you labeled those with glaucoma "black" you'd have the same correlation.

    Sickle cell correlates mechanistically with malaria exposure, not race, as far as anyone knows. Scores on intelligence tests correlate with lead exposure and other cultural factors, not race, as far as anyone knows. There is no scientifically defined "black race" to correlate with, in fact.

    Because they keep drawing ridiculous conclusions aligned with their prior agendas from the BS they insist on, they continually demonstrate bad motives for inventing or exaggerating such variance, and in the case of "intelligence" they have gone so far as to invent the trait in the first place.

    How would you respond to someone who asserted that people with curly hair were members of a less intelligent race, and dismissal of that as nonsense showed some kind of political bias ?
     
  23. madanthonywayne Morning in America Registered Senior Member

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    You have this habit of making statements out of some parallel earth fantasy land. "There's no such thing as intelligence, there's no such thing as race...."

    Just because you keep repeating it doesn't make it true. What is it that allows humans to put a man on the moon and unlock the secrets of the universe while cows chew their cud oblivious to it all? What allows one man to become a doctor or lawyer, while another with Down's syndrome is lucky to hold a job bagging groceries?

    Intelligence is the defining characteristic of humans, yet you claim it doesn't exist?
     
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