Naw, our favorite exploited immigrant is now the Mexicans.
I think the string of recent posts ought to be moved to the "One Thread to Rule Them All" roundup.
At the same time there are several on that thread that relate to here instead.
And [PJ]: stop throwing around personal insults. Again.
Go piss up a rope.
What I'm asking is that the issues of immediate concern and impact be focussed on, and that we not be so careless as to play into extremist agendas that go beyond merely protecting the innocent and the weak.
Note the selectiveness of the causes that are complained about in the world- you can easily find a major Syrian transgression against Lebanon for every transgression Israel's ever caused, and Syria has far outdone Israel in deaths and disappearances, but if Israel is the only one to be targetted and remembered, does it not then serve some rather unsavoury interests?
Yes, regardless of how stacked the deck is one way or the other, it doesn't help Israel to play into the hands of those who make the worst accusations of it. It would have looked a lot better for Israel to have loosened the blockade on their own terms at least a year ago out of humanitarian concerns, than to end up doing it now anyhow after this whole circus has been through town.
BTW any updates on the aid that was sent? Sounds like for the most part it was all crap aside from a few medical scooters, and they just tossed it all in the cargo holds without bothering to pack it properly for the trip. Plus the Mavi Marmara apparently contained nothing but passengers with their personal possessions. Sounds like quite the relief op.
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Young Bedouin men can get out of the concentration camps and gain citizenship right by joining the Israeli army - quite a few have. Not only does this give Israel more soldiers, less food and water to deliver to the camps, but also reduces the birth rate in the camps. - It is all part of Israel's "final solution" to the Bedouin problem. The Bedouin culture has been destroyed about two decades ago, so rather than live as confined prisoners in the camps, many Bedouin men have joined the army. I.e. they understand their culture is dead so assimulation into the Israeli culture (war machine) is the best option open to them.No citizenship rights for Bedouins?...
No, it is already wet - you must have pissed up it.Go piss up a rope. ...
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But the US is not interested in justice, so what justice demands is irrelevant. But Americans by and large are so gung ho for the Jewish state that they should simply decide to become one.
The Americans must all be deported back to Europe, if not killed outright.
We can leave that to the Zionists, it is after all, their favourite modus operandi.![]()
Not having a very good day are you, apologising for Zionism?
You're telling me! We owe a great debt to the Palestinians for breeding so prolificly, or else the Apartheid Death Machine would have long since run out of local children to murder and moved on to other countries!
I am the epitome of resistance to Zionist Nazi Imperialism, and brook no compromise with pure Evil. Give up your doubts and join me - do not be afraid, for righteous justice will prevail!
It must be difficult, defending the indefensible. I wonder, if you have to choose, which side could you stand on without denying your own morals. I have a feeling you cannot pick a side even when you know which one is wrong and life is going to be difficult for you as the situation becomes worse.
Bitch, don't act like you know me. You haven't even managed to pick up on the whole point, which is precisely that I'm fucking sick of being labelled "Zionist apologist" and "siding against morality" any time I question any aspect of your whole reactionary moral-supremacy game. I don't have a fucking "side" in this conflict, nor have I ever. I'm just sick of the endlessly circular, polarizing terms of debate advanced so energetically by yourself and others. You don't represent Palestine, nor is all criticism of your ideology tantamount to a some kind of pro-Zionist effort. The pretense that it is, however, is apparently crucial to the cheap rush of moral supremacy that you and your ilk derive from identifying yourself as such. This is childish bullshit, and it's highly toxic to any prospect of useful, civilized discussion here - which is why it's doubly troubling to see actual mods doing it as well. Your various other trollings, particularly your eagerness to provoke by belittling the nationalites of interlocutors, are likewise odious.
But if that's the game, then so be it. I've tried to pursue these criticisms in a good-faith, adult way for quite some time, and look where it's gotten me. This is, apparently, to be a contest between trolls, and you can expect me to treat it as such from here on out.
Interior Ministry regulations provide for the abrogation of the rights of Palestinian residents of Jerusalem who leave the city for a period of over seven years. Citizens of Israel can leave the country for any length of time, and their citizenship and all their rights are theirs in perpetuity. But when it comes to Palestinian residents of East Jerusalem, Israel applies draconian regulations whose covert intent is to bring about the expulsion of as many Palestinians as possible from their home city.
This situation is intolerable: At a time when the prime minister speaks grandiloquently of the reunification of Jerusalem, Israel practices inequality and discriminates against the city's Arab residents. At a time when Benjamin Netanyahu speaks of the economic advancement of the territories, Israel prevents the Arab residents of East Jerusalem from advancing their careers abroad and returning afterward to their home city to contribute toward the development of its economy. The screws have been tightened in recent years: In 2008 the residents' rights of 4,557 Palestinian inhabitants of the city were abrogated, the highest number ever.
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/the-silent-expulsion-1.297577
I.e. I only paraphrases your text - nearly word for word, to make it into an excuse for the CIA rendition using others to torture instead an excuse of Israel using others to murder.
What is really childish bullshit is how Israel has managed to convince people like you that its legal to treat people the way they do Palestinians so that you feel compelled to defend the indefensible actions of the Jewish state and expect that making genocide a pragmatic strategy will somehow make it more acceptable.
Its not about making points or exterminating Jews.
Its about basic human rights being abrogated with impunity.
Its quite funny actually.![]()
If we just ignore the ethnic cleansing, that is.
What is really childish bullshit is how Israel has managed to convince people like you that its legal to treat people the way they do Palestinians so that you feel compelled to defend the indefensible actions of the Jewish state and expect that making genocide a pragmatic strategy will somehow make it more acceptable.
Young Bedouin men can get out of the concentration camps and gain citizenship right by joining the Israeli army - quite a few have. Not only does this give Israel more soldiers, less food and water to deliver to the camps, but also reduces the birth rate in the camps. - It is all part of Israel's "final solution" to the Bedouin problem. The Bedouin culture has been destroyed about two decades ago, so rather than live as confined prisoners in the camps, many Bedouin men have joined the army. I.e. they understand their culture is dead so assimulation into the Israeli culture (war machine) is the best option open to them.
Let's stop this right there: quadro has not, to my knowledge, made any such representation.