Why Mercury's precession is not as big as Earth? (5.75" < 11.45")

exchemist said:
I did wonder about that, certainly. However this one seems to lack some of the characteristics of Theorist. There isn't the same level of nonsense algebra, nor the obsession with clocks, nor the telltale habit of lobbing in new bits of nonsense periodically, to keep the pot boiling. In fact this one seems utterly obsessed with saying the same - nonsensical - thing over and over again. So if it is he, then he has changed his methodology quite a bit - different drugs, perhaps? :wink:

On the other hand, post 12 does sound like Theorist...
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Points taken. Either way, I see no value in keeping Tony stimulated. Sooner or later he should actually study the article he linked to in post #1. It answers well enough all his repeated questions.
 
Q-reeus said:
Points taken. Either way, I see no value in keeping Tony stimulated. Sooner or later he should actually study the article he linked to in post #1. It answers well enough all his repeated questions.
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Someone once kept telling me that there was no wave and no Doppler. I answered this question, but the person who asked it closed his eyes.
If you already know the calculation process of Mercury's precession very well, I hope you can also do the calculation with Doppler effect in mind. I don't have the ability to do this yet, I hope you can. If you just copy the text on that link, then you do n’t have to. I can also copy it.
 
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I have verified with procedures that Mercury's precession deviation (44.1 "per century) is due to the Doppler effect of the gravitational field.
 
1.Mercury:
Perihelion precession per century::58.43349" .
Afar precession per century::47.43934" .

2.Earth:
Perihelion precession per century::32.64312" .
Afar precession per century::32.39084" .

My data may be closer to the real.
 
Planet -------- Perihelion precession --------------- Afar precession (per century)
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Mercury********** 58.405"****************** 47.439"
Venus********** 38.255"****************** 38.465"
Earth********** 32.647"****************** 32.389"
Mars********** 28.245"****************** 25.653"
Jupiter********** 14.578"****************** 13.836"
Saturn********** 10.822"****************** 10.190"
Uranus********** 7.454"****************** 7.369"
Neptune********** 5.422"****************** 5.302"

These data come from program simulation. The planetary precession under the Doppler effect of gravitational field every century.
 
Precession under the Doppler effect of gravitational field:
Planet -------- Perihelion precession ------------ Afar precession (per century)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mercury********** 58.404"***************** 32.938"
Venus********** 38.004"****************** 38.466"
Earth********** 33.073"****************** 32.392"
Mars********** 27.609"****************** 24.686"
Jupiter********** 14.524"****************** 13.042"
Saturn********** 10.831"****************** 9.519"
Uranus********** 7.446"****************** 6.992"
Neptune********** 6.064"***************** 5.929"

Precession under the normal gravitational field: (non-Doppler effect)
Planet -------- Perihelion precession ---- Afar precession per century
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Mercury********** 0.000"****************** 0.000"
Venus********** 0.000"****************** 0.000"
Earth********** 0.000"****************** 0.000"
Mars********** 0.000"****************** 0.000"
Jupiter********** 0.000"****************** 0.000"
Saturn********** 0.000"****************** 0.000"
Uranus********** 0.000"****************** 0.000"
Neptune********** 0.000"****************** 0.000"
 
Those numbers don't tell me anything. I asked for your method, your derivation.

What's "Afar precession"?

And what relation do the numbes 58.405" and 47.439" have to 44.1"?
 
James R said:
Those numbers don't tell me anything. I asked for your method, your derivation.
What's "Afar precession"? Precession at the point furthest from the sun.
And what relation do the numbes 58.405" and 47.439" have to 44.1"?
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ccording to the law of conservation of energy, I have improved the accuracy of planetary speed at any point on the elliptical orbit.

Planet -------- Perihelion precession ------------ Afar precession (per century)
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Mercury********** 58.404"***************** 32.938"
Venus********** 38.004"****************** 38.466"
Earth********** 33.073"****************** 32.392"
Mars********** 27.609"****************** 24.686"
Jupiter********** 14.524"****************** 13.042"
Saturn********** 10.831"****************** 9.519"
Uranus********** 7.446"****************** 6.992"
Neptune********** 6.064"***************** 5.929"

( 58.404" + 32.938" )/2 = 45.671" , I still don't know what this average data means.
 
James R said:
Those numbers don't tell me anything. I asked for your method, your derivation.
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1. Calculate the speed and direction of each point on the elliptical orbit
2. Calculate the Doppler effect coefficient f (x) of the gravitational field
3. Calculate the new perihelion position and the new afar position.
4. Calculate the precession angle. Including the precession of perihelion and afar.
 
James R said:
Those numbers don't tell me anything. I asked for your method, your derivation.
What's "Afar precession"?
And what relation do the numbes 58.405" and 47.439" have to 44.1"?
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Planet -------- Perihelion precession ---- Afar precession per century under the Doppler effect
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Mercury********** 58.404"****************** 32.938"*******meanArc= 43.053"
Venus********** 38.004"****************** 38.466"*******meanArc= 38.236"
Earth********** 33.073"****************** 32.392"*******meanArc= 32.726"
Mars********** 27.609"****************** 24.686"*******meanArc= 26.075"
Jupiter********** 14.524"****************** 13.042"*******meanArc= 13.747"
Saturn********** 10.831"****************** 9.519"*******meanArc= 10.138"
Uranus********** 7.446"****************** 6.992"*******meanArc= 7.209"
Neptune********** 6.064"****************** 5.929"*******meanArc= 5.996"
 
Mercury********** 58.404"****************** 32.938"*******meanArc= 43.053"
Mercury Precession Deviation 43" comes from the Doppler effect of the gravitational field.
 
James R said:
Those numbers don't tell me anything. I asked for your method, your derivation.

What's "Afar precession"?

And what relation do the numbes 58.405" and 47.439" have to 44.1"?
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My friend, I have submitted the paper to nature. If they can read my article seriously, they will be just as surprised as me.
 
TonyYuan said:
My friend, I have submitted the paper to nature.
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Let us know when you hear back from them.

Have you read any of the articles in Nature, so that you're aware of what kind of thing is expected to get published?
 
James R said:
Let us know when you hear back from them.

Have you read any of the articles in Nature, so that you're aware of what kind of thing is expected to get published?
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I just know that nature is one of the most famous scientific journals in the world, and I don't know much about other information. I hope they can read my paper seriously. Because it does cause shock in the physical world.
If natue can publish my article, I will tell you the first time. Thank you for your attention.
 
To date, it doesn't appear as if Tony's "world shocking" paper has been published. Circular file, maybe?
 
(Q) said:
To date, it doesn't appear as if Tony's "world shocking" paper has been published. Circular file, maybe?
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Please be patient, they are reviewing my article, no matter whether it can be published at the end, I will publish my research results in the sciforums.
 
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