Write4U said:
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Natural selection is mathematical process.
No, it isn't. It's a natural process. The word even appears in the label.
Yes it is. It is a natural mathematical process, translatable into human symbolic maths.
Else who does the selecting? Nature? How does it do that? Like a farmer selecting a prize bull for breeding?
That, IMO, smacks of religious beliefs.
A natural probabilistic mathematical
selection function, devoid of choice or preference seems logically the ideal "guiding equation", for all universal self-ordering dynamics.
A logically orderly "essence" (potential) of the spacetime fabric itself. Natural selection is not just related to biological organisms, it applies to Everything. That's the quasi intelligent power of mathematics. It is a common identifier (denominator ) in and of ALL THINGS.
Where physics fail, mathematics guide the way.
The problem is that human informational language and human informational mathematics are always being substituted for natural information languages (values) and natural mathematical/physical processing dynamics.
A "value" is a mathematical excellence (a potential) inherent in all natural mathematical patterns, from the very subtle to gross expression in
our reality.
Gravity seems such a mathematical value, a universal excellence of dynamical potential, without which the universe might not exist at all.
If one admits to the universe having
some mathematical properties and processing functions, then why the resistance to the concept of the universe having
only mathematical properties and processing functions.
That's ironic advice, coming from you. Does writing 1 + 1 = 2 make anything in the physical world? Try to do some compartmentalising.
Compartmentalized, 1 + 1 does...
W4U said; If human did not exist there would be no human maths.
That, right there, ought to tell you something.
? Would it make any difference to the mathematical relational values and the mathematically guided processing functions of the universe?
Plenty animals do just fine with their applied mathematics, even if they are completely oblivious to the fact.
The implication of what you're saying is that the physical universe would be no different without mathematics. I agree.
I'm sorry but that is not the intent of the statement. I hope I said that " the mathematical /physical universe would be no different without "human" mathematics or humans for that matter.
The term "value densities" is meaningless, as far as I can tell. I think you're just making this stuff up as you go along.
The difference between a solid and a liquid is in the density of the molecular population, no?
Water vapor, liquid water, solid ice, all have the exact same constituent values H2O. It is the molecular density distribution that yields the gaseous state, liquid state, or solid state. H2O has a variable "value" potential. The mathematically self-organizing patterns into three possible "physical" expressions (states) , but being identical in constituent number and molecular value.
There's no way to make a physical mountain out of abstract values.
IMO, there is. But allow me to ask you what makes a physical mountain, without resorting to the mathematics of the descriptive values?
No. Mitosis is a physical process.
Compartmentalization; Cell "division" and "duplication" are mathematical functions, no? How it happens is secondary.
These fundamental functions must be mathematically permitted, or these functions would not, could not exist.....
