What good are philosophers today?
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As a matter of fact, YES, he was. In his own lifetime! Oh, and he was a painter, not a philosopher.
Oh wait. Ooops... I meant Van Gogh. My memory is failing me... 
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(Oh, and it doesn't matter he's a painter. My point is that just because youa re recognize today doesn't mean you were recognized when you were alive. I'm sure there are many other examples of people who are widely recognized today but were not recognized during their lifetime.)
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(Oh, and it doesn't matter he's a painter. My point is that just because youa re recognize today doesn't mean you were recognized when you were alive. I'm sure there are many other examples of people who are widely recognized today but were not recognized during their lifetime.)
" 'Oh, and he was a painter...' " was my admonishment of your fatuousness. And off-topic-ness.
Picasso was a well known (and sucessful) painter in his own time. Which was not that long ago. He died in 1973.
"His prolific inventiveness and technical versatility made him the dominant figure in avant-garde art in the first half of the 20th century." Apple Dictionary 1.0.1
Italics mine
Please stop squablling and return to the point of the thread.
Picasso was a well known (and sucessful) painter in his own time. Which was not that long ago. He died in 1973.
"His prolific inventiveness and technical versatility made him the dominant figure in avant-garde art in the first half of the 20th century." Apple Dictionary 1.0.1
Italics mine
Please stop squablling and return to the point of the thread.
Why do you change my words? Cannot find a way to disprove my argument?
Read it carefully:
TruthSeeker said:
The fact that he is a painter is irrelevant to the discussion.
We are talking about whether someone can be well known after death without being during life. You claim that everyone that is well known was well known during their lifetime. I disagree and I gave Van Goh as an example.
Think, people, please....!
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I disagree with that and gave Van Gogh as an example. Get it? Do you understand logic?Klippymitch said:
I understand logic very well.
Oh look here's a sculpture of Socrates
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cd/Socrates.png/200px-Socrates.png
Bullshit! I said no such thing. In fact, I said, in another post, 'greatness is usually posthumous'.
What I said was, Socrates was in fact well known among those who would likely to be discussing such things, and not a good example. Picasso also was not a good example.
Van Gogh... don't know 'bout his rep during his life.
Here's one that might tho; Poe, E. A. Died in the gutter so to speak. His greatness was not recognized...til after his death.
Ok, the Poe thing is off topic. But I just love a good tangent!
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Well, if you didn't claim that, then we agree... :shrug:
Umm...now what?:shrug:
BTW, I didn't change your words with "...Oh and he's a painter..." I was quoting myself. I can be so very pithy at times
No kiddin'!
Oh well... :shrug:
I guess agreeing is boring...
Oh well... :shrug:
I guess agreeing is boring...